I'd really like to know where that came from. I've seen it all over but never found out...Lord_Panzer said:Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.
[snippety snip]
EDIT: I may have been ninja'd multiple times over, but I'm the only one who brought a gif to the party! Muahahaha.
xmetatr0nx said:I guess it was meant to be, oh quiet samurai youre the one ive been searching for..!quiet_samurai said:You know, I think I have used that exact sentance word for word on a female before, never thought it would be thrown back at me by a dude though. And I have good looks too!xmetatr0nx said:Careful, theyll say we have a thing going on. And with my good looks and your....whatever it is you have they wont beleive you when you deny it.quiet_samurai said:Lol the same. This is like the third time I've quoted you today. I think I'm done, at least until you post exactly what I was going to say before me.xmetatr0nx said:I feel better now, knowing im not the only one who heard those words in my head after i read the title. Brilliant!Dryaxx said:Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me. No more!
While i dont doubt your good looks, as long as im around youll always be second best. Get used to it.
This is what I thought this thread would actually be about. I feel cheated.Dryaxx said:Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me. No more!
Nice post.Cheeze_Pavilion said:No, the ultimate goal of love is to make us feel good--to reproduce is the side effect. That's how most of evolution/natural selection works--the behavior isn't of itself for survival, it just has a side effect conducive to survival:Pink_Pirate said:Love is nothing more than a survival instinct embedded deep within our genetic coding. Our brains are programmed to make us feel good about it when we find potential mates, and this in turn leads us to seek them out. The ultimate goal of love is to mate, to reproduce and make sure our race does not die out.
http://www.pbs.org/howartmadetheworld/episodes/human/ramachandran/
Can't just look to nature as some sort of authority for what is and is not an 'ultimate purpose':We as a race have become obsessed with the side effects of love, rather than its ultimate purpose...The concept of love separated from physical reproduction has become so engraved in the collective human psyche that to oppose it, is social taboo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
Or people ruminating on the question "What is Love?": all three groups are identical in the sense that they are all in search of a certain state of brain chemistry.People who chase after love are no better than junkies craving a high.
Isn't that why we do anything, from pick our nose to paint the Sistine Chapel's ceiling--to experience a certain state of brain chemistry?There is no longer any need to recreate, we have complete dominance over our planet, and almost complete certainty of survival. The only reason people seek out love now is to experience the rush of chemicals released into your bloodstream when you find a potential mate.
Hope all that was thought provoking.Now, i wrote this a while ago as a thought exercise in arguing points i don't necessarily believe in. I dont agree with everything i wrote up there, but i dont really disagree with it either. So let see some opinions on what you think love might be? it can be something that you believe in, or like me you try to argue a point that u might not support.
What? That isn't love! That's teenage affection! Falling in love takes time. You can't fall in love 4 times in 4 years! You may have liked those girls, but I guarantee you didn't love them. Love is the emotion that makes you jump in front of moving vehicles if you think it'll protect your partner. Love is the feeling that you have to do anything and everything to help the other person. Love is totally putting the other person's needs completely above your own. At 10 years old, your brain hasn't even developed to the point where you can comprehend love.ThePirateMan said:I was in love with 4 different girls, 2 big(Deeply in love), 2 small(A little..), but I only got together with one of them and we never kissed.TheNumber1Zero said:dude,you were in love?I've never been in love,never even really kissed a girl...ThePirateMan said:Big wall of text is bad for people who don't like big wall of text D:
How dare you call yourself a pirate?!
Yarr, harr, hibidihey.
And I really miss being in love D: Havn't been since I was 10 (I'm 14 now.)
Otherwise I don't really care WHAT love is.
No real comments on your opening text thing.. I'm just too tired to read it.. >.<
also I ain't reading that either,if we were that intellectual,patient,and into reading,why the hell are we on the escapist.
so I'm gonna go with "love is love"
that should do it.
'I' refers to the conciousnous, and collectively everything that it is both attached and in direct control of, surely!DarkLordofDevon said:True. But while it is a chemical reaction and could define it as thus, you could also point out our entity form itself is merely a collection of individual organisms working together as a collective. So in this case, how do we define 'us'? Surely 'I' as an individual is merely an illusion created the unification of many seperate beings working together for their own survival.Pink_Pirate said:quite true, but, as is probably obvious, im referring to romantic love in this case. In the end love is just a word and depending on the context can mean any number of things. However! i digress, the word love is not to be discussed here... but the feeling of being romantically in love or attracted to someone.DarkLordofDevon said:Of course there is more than 1 type of love. Love of a family member. Love of a friend. Love of a partner.
If you over complicate things, you begin to realise how pointless life is. If you have love, just roll with it. It may be partially chemicals, but who cares? Its not something that can be replicated in a lab, I assure that much. It also depends on the individual.
Well, that's a good description of our mating instinct, but I figured that out a good few years back. As a desription of 'love'... not so much. Also, it's lacking something.Pink_Pirate said:-Snip-
Bias!McCa said:Ignorance, all over it burns... I take it most of you have never experienced the emotion that is understated as love? Particularly those calling it down. Yes it hurts, but god yes is it the best thing you will ever fell when you are with that person of whom is the object of you affection. If you think you have experienced love and see it as a bad thing, then it wasn't love. It was simply a great liking or maybe lust. Love and lust are NOT interchangeable. Love is when you feel sick when you aren't with that person as I feel now, because she has gone ice skating and I am otherwise indisposed. When such minor things like weather, illness and fatigue would never stop you. Love is very real, a series of chemical reactions in the brain? So is everything, so therefore it is no less real than the world you see around you. Love is not a one night stand, one is not dating, love is so so much more. A thing that cannot be expressed in any amount of words even it's own. Love is an understatement of it's self. Even song & poetry cannot give that emotion. Much less cold words on an internet forum even despite the way I talk about love being called poetic by a few (not that I see it, just the way I think) as such, love is fact. Those who say otherwise are scared of such emotion, scared of the pain, and as a defence try to convince themselves it isn't real. Sorry to say but it is. And hiding away that wont get you anywhere.
Also love is no about pro-creation, that is lust, which in romantic relationships is hand in hand. Any of you who wish to challenge this fact feel free to dispute it for whatever reason.
*sigh* I thought i could be witty and original.Dryaxx said:Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me. No more!
you know what i think im gonna have to disagree with you there mr. superhyeractiveman. love is in the eye of the beholder, when you're 10 you can easily fall in love, if you feel really strongly about it you can call it love. I personally struggle with definitions of love when you think about when exactly does it stop being just infatuation and lust and become love? where is that line that you cross? Then again why does it have to take time to fall in love? is it so unreasonable to believe in love at first sight? Affection, trust, respect, all feeling that build over time, they can all be synonymous with love, but they are not love. Love is that spark, that something that you just know, weather you know it after 10 years or after 10 seconds is irrelevant.Superhyperactiveman said:What? That isn't love! That's teenage affection! Falling in love takes time. You can't fall in love 4 times in 4 years! You may have liked those girls, but I guarantee you didn't love them. Love is the emotion that makes you jump in front of moving vehicles if you think it'll protect your partner. Love is the feeling that you have to do anything and everything to help the other person. Love is totally putting the other person's needs completely above your own. At 10 years old, your brain hasn't even developed to the point where you can comprehend love.ThePirateMan said:I was in love with 4 different girls, 2 big(Deeply in love), 2 small(A little..), but I only got together with one of them and we never kissed.TheNumber1Zero said:dude,you were in love?I've never been in love,never even really kissed a girl...ThePirateMan said:Big wall of text is bad for people who don't like big wall of text D:
How dare you call yourself a pirate?!
Yarr, harr, hibidihey.
And I really miss being in love D: Havn't been since I was 10 (I'm 14 now.)
Otherwise I don't really care WHAT love is.
No real comments on your opening text thing.. I'm just too tired to read it.. >.<
also I ain't reading that either,if we were that intellectual,patient,and into reading,why the hell are we on the escapist.
so I'm gonna go with "love is love"
that should do it.
I have been in love myself... It was terrible. She didn't love me back... Of course, that didn't stop her from telling me she didn't love me back and taking advantage of me and my emotions... But I'm finally getting back out there. I'm finally returning to the world of dating...
I agree on Infatuation, but i have to disagree on the Love bit, that bond that's not love, its affection, something you build over time. Love, i see it as this mythical state of mind that people go through, it is beyond simple definition, it's probably one of the most easily recognised, and most abstract idea we humans have, or will, ever come up with. I believe in the myth of love, and that that myth can be true for some people, but it is still an abstract idea, and nothing more, it tries to explain a mixture of feeling and emotions so complex and far reaching it is a parody of itself. Love is Love, nothing more nothing less, let people decide for themselves what it is and what it feels like, we have nothing but the framework of our own minds and experience to base it on.Nocta-Aeterna said:Well, that's a good description of our mating instinct, but I figured that out a good few years back. As a desription of 'love'... not so much. Also, it's lacking something.Pink_Pirate said:-Snip-
If 'Love' was no more than a mating instinct(mating taken here as a sinonym to reproduction), I'm sure it's sole identifier would be a pounding rush of blood to the groin: driving us to give (or receive) the squirt of half a set of chromosomes to our potential mate. However, as you said, there's also the endorphin high.
Endorphin, aside from giving a pleasant feeling is also addictive if I'm correct. The craving for more endorphin makes us stay with our partner to ensure the survival of our offspring. Eventually, not enough endorphin is produced and people break up, creating the possibility to furtherly spread ones genes (after going through endorphin withdrawal).
Also I think there were also similar hormones released in buth sexes during intercourse, which causes both sides to feel bonded or connected in some way, but it's most likely that I'm wrong.
I believe that what remains on the social taboo on sex is what's left of Puritan and Victorian society, though I could be mistaken. I seem to remember that one of the Catholic church's Medival catchphrases was something along the line of "Go forth and be fertile!", which later turned into "No birth-control for you!".
humans also derive pleasure from the hormone adrenaline and several other substances, to a more or lesser degree.
Due to the lack of danger in the developped world, people seek out imitation danger (rollercoasters, horror films/novels, action oriented games like fps's and teh like), in order to feel the adrenaline rush.
Also, since ALL emotions are spikes in the hormone concentration of our bloodstream and activity in certain regions of the brain, that makes seeking out well written literature, films, games or music that really tug the heart strings or get the blood flowing into nothing more than seeking the next hormonal high as the OP had put it; thus EVERYBODY seems to be on the level of a junky and reviewers nothing more that the drug quality-control. Of course, this is extremely exaggerated, but you get the point.
One more thing about love.
(please bear with me for the while, and not throw it off as some kind of smug, pseudo-phylosophic smart-assedness)
'Love' is a noun, or a verb in 'to love'; so a word. With words, we describe what observe and experience; though the actual meaning of a word, and the experience described, more often than not, differ from eachother in slight nuances.
The OP described the instinct to mate, and the fluttery feelings that acompany it. This I call an INFATUATION, whilst I would refer to the feeling of bonding to be LOVE.
See the difference?