What is racist

[AetherGryphon]

With video games being just that, interactive worlds confined to dementions defined by their programers is it at all possible to draw any corelation between them and real life. more specifically if im playing saints row two as a white cockney accented badass and i hit a black gangbanger with the anhililator rocket launcher, would the excessive force used qualify the assault as a hate crime.

in short can anything in an unreal setting be really racist, if so whats the most racist content in any video game. (excluding comments made durring online play)

 

[Ago Iterum]

If you killed the guy because he was black, well... It would be discriminatory, but still not a hate crime, because it wasn't a crime (don't listen to Jack Thompson, it ISN'T a crime).

 

[Shapsters]

Well what about RE5? That could be considered racist, killing black zombies, nothing else but black people. Probably a bad move on Capcom's part.

 

[Azeban]

Uggh, hate crime. I've heard that 90% of all interracial crime is black on white. Yet blacks never get charged with "hate" crime. The idea of a hate crime is just so stupid to me, because motivations are unknowable.

 

[Biek]

Well what about RE5? That could be considered racist, killing black zombies, nothing else but black people. Probably a bad move on Capcom's part.

Well, I'd only consider it rascist if the game itself would have some sort of rascist message in it. Take resident evil 5 for example. Apparently people complained it was rascist due to the fact that your playing as a white male and you fight a large humber of africans. They changed the race of some enemies to add white, hispanic and middle eastern people in the mix of enemies because of this, slightly reducing the games credibility. (Honestly, how many white people would you expect in an african slum?) But the game has no rascist message whatsoever, and having a mayority of black people in a game that takes place in africa would only make sense.

Im pretty sure there are rascist players that will find enjoyment in shooting the black people in this game. but I don't think Capcom can be held accountable for that.

 

[goater24]

If a kill is motivatated by an irrational hatred toward a ethnic minority then that in my opinion would be racist, and there are games availible by the anti communism league that cater for that demographic.

 

[Melancholy_Ocelot]

You are preaching to the choir on this one...unless the game has been independently released by the KKK.

As the intelligent sentient beings that I am, I know the difference between reality and a cloud of ones and zeros. I also know the definition of racism. As far as I can tell those two circles don't overlap. One being based in reality and the other in the aforementioned cloud.

Unfortunately this is the norm in the cooperate run P.C. world we live in. Case and point; observe the hollow shell of the being we once called Cookie Monster.

 

[Powerman88]

From Dictionary.com

rac⋅ism
   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
?noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Because you are white and you violently massacre a person who is black does not make you inherently a racist. Saying it does makes one a racist because they have demonstrated a policy based on race. Like a lot of criminal law, intent is the name of the game. Its the same distinctions that mark the differences between manslaughter and Murder 1 (going on the US criminal justice system which is all I am familiar with). Manslaughter is you kill someone unintentionally and Murder in the first degree implies you kill someone with forethought and malicious misgivings.

If you single out and kill people because they are black, you are a racist. If you kill someone who happens to be black, but kill them because they are in a rival gang, your okay .

I have said this in other threads, but to label games like Saint's Row 2 or RE5 racist is, in itself, a racist act. By saying that people of African decent should be treated, as a race, differently because of their history is creating a policy based on race and is, therefor, racist.

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[Shapsters]

Well what about RE5? That could be considered racist, killing black zombies, nothing else but black people. Probably a bad move on Capcom's part.

Well, I'd only consider it rascist if the game itself would have some sort of rascist message in it. Take resident evil 5 for example. Apparently people complained it was rascist due to the fact that your playing as a white male and you fight a large humber of africans. They changed the race of some enemies to add white, hispanic and middle eastern people in the mix of enemies because of this, slightly reducing the games credibility. (Honestly, how many white people would you expect in an african slum?) But the game has no rascist message whatsoever, and having a mayority of black people in a game that takes place in africa would only make sense.

Im pretty sure there are rascist players that will find enjoyment in shooting the black people in this game. but I don't think Capcom can be held accountable for that.

I'm not saying the game is necessarily racist, it's just that people might take it that way, and some will.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Well what about RE5? That could be considered racist, killing black zombies, nothing else but black people. Probably a bad move on Capcom's part.

epic fail.

 

[sorry user name taken.]

everyone seems to bite at capcom for there choice of location for resi 5 I don't think that's fair really and I'm glad they didn't give in and taking a big brave step.(not so much with inventory..seriously wtf =/)


no one raised there voice over resi 4 =/...?


why should capcoms creativity considered stupid?

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I have said this in other threads, but to label games like Saint's Row 2 or RE5 racist is, in itself, a racist act. By saying that people of African decent should be treated, as a race, differently because of their history is creating a policy based on race and is, therefor, racist.

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[More Fun To Compute]

It's not a crime because no game violence is criminal. It might make you a racist if you are singling out black characters for special treatment because you hate black people.

If you log onto an online game and tell people to kill black characters because black people are inferior in real life then that would be incitement of racial hatred here in the UK. If a game makes a similar point then the game producers are guilty of racism. Rockstar were on risky ground here when they had a mission that said "kill all Haitians."

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Really? This again?

 

[Danzaivar]

Well what about RE5? That could be considered racist, killing black zombies, nothing else but black people. Probably a bad move on Capcom's part.

Well you might have only killed the black zombies, but there are a few white ones about. I'm fairly sure when Chris pulls the trigger he's motivated by the fact that if he doesn't they will EAT HIM ALIVE (Because they're zombies, not because they're black) and he probably doesn't enjoy it more because the pigment of their rotting flesh is darker.

Really the only one to blame is the African state immigration and diversity policies. If Capcom put it somewhere else 'because theirs more white people' then that in itself would be racist.

Anyway on topic, no it's not racist.

God I hate how that stupid word is thrown around EVERYWHERE.

 

[Ultress]

A miserable little pile of hate!

No,I don't think it's racist, and no one seemed to mind mowing down spanish zombies and they are of a diffrent desent.

 

[wild_quinine]

It's not a crime because no game violence is criminal.

Not necessarily true. It depends on the country (obviously), and also on the content of the game. In the UK and Australia certain sexually themed video games would almost certainly be vulnerable to the long arm of the law. Accurate depiction of rape is a type of video game violence which is probably illegal, for example.

I'm not saying that it's right that imaginary stuff can be illegal, but that doesn't mean the law has no opinion on the matter.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

It's not a crime because no game violence is criminal.

Not necessarily true. It depends on the country (obviously), and also on the content of the game. In the UK and Australia certain sexually themed video games would almost certainly be vulnerable to the long arm of the law. Accurate depiction of rape is a type of video game violence which is probably illegal, for example.

I'm not saying that it's right that imaginary stuff can be illegal, but that doesn't mean the law has no opinion on the matter.

I suppose that if I'm playing the US version of Fallout 2 that still has the killable children then there may be a problem. I wouldn't know if it's my fault for owning an unrated game or somebodies fault for selling it to me or if there is only a problem if I choose to kill children in the game.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Well what about RE5? That could be considered racist, killing black zombies, nothing else but black people. Probably a bad move on Capcom's part.

Your in AFRICA. Who lives in AFRICA? It's not racist. Idiots just perceive it as racism.

 

[Jandau]

People like to look for racism where there is none. RE5 is a good example. You are in central (or southern) AFRICA where I'm guessing over 90% of the population is black. What are you supposed to fight? A horde of Norsemen?

Next, if RE5 is racist, then almost every other game featuring killing people is racist towards white people! Yeah, you heard me! If that's the standard we're using, then I object to having my race slaughtered wholesale! If people can argue that KKK is enjoying their sick fantasies in RE5, then I'd hate to think what the Black Panthers are doing with almost the entire gaming industry...

The previous paragraph was sarcastic, if you didn't notice...

P.S. This reminds me of the moron who argued that LOTR is racist because all the main characters are white and the bad guy orcs are dark-ish... /rolleyes

 

[Inarticulate_Underachiever]

No game made and released by professional game design companies is racist because they know it wouldn't get released anyway and it would give them a bad reputation.

Video games are only racist is you perceive them to be racist which quite frankly is a little dumb because of the aforementioned points above. Would RE5 be called Racist if you played as a black man killing white people in a different setting? It's all double standards I'm afraid.