Don't worry, everyone is helping, and you are one of those people who give real constructive help (the real good stuff), I was just being an idiot, ignore me.wartuk65 said:
Also, triple post, awesome =)
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Also, triple post, awesome =)
Well thank you, but I won't ignore you. I don't like repeating things that already have been said, even though my post is full of that. I'm just a big talker, can use large words, and explain a thing or two. But I'm not much less an idiot than you are. =]Niagro said:
And when is OP gonna say anything again? Did he retreat?
This is a discussion, not a blog. If you don't have anything to contribute atleast don't babble on on how much you hate anime and not help the discussion.Nazz3 said:
PS: I'm not a fanboy of anime trying to cover my angry response to you, I'm just trying to be a good participant in this discussion.
Thank you for listening.
Saw a little post mentioning Witchblade a few parts up, and thought that this is perfect to highlight something to you, OP:
Anime does one crucially bad and off-putting (for some) thing, and that is it tends to oversexualise and overobjectify women at every opportunity it gets - this is not indicative of the rest of the writing, it is - if you will - in the same vein as the token ethnic minorities in every film [sub]I do not harbour any racist feelings, *sigh*, this is just a metaphor, albeit a bad one[/sub]: it's there because without it, some people will not watch it.
Do not let this deter you, or alter your perspective on anime as a whole, many (if not most) of the best series do not contain this, but some (like Witchblade), do - but it is in no way a sure-fire sign that it will have a bad story.
Argh, that was horribly worded, I should have gone to sleep when I said, but you get my point.
I hope...
Anime does one crucially bad and off-putting (for some) thing, and that is it tends to oversexualise and overobjectify women at every opportunity it gets - this is not indicative of the rest of the writing, it is - if you will - in the same vein as the token ethnic minorities in every film [sub]I do not harbour any racist feelings, *sigh*, this is just a metaphor, albeit a bad one[/sub]: it's there because without it, some people will not watch it.
Do not let this deter you, or alter your perspective on anime as a whole, many (if not most) of the best series do not contain this, but some (like Witchblade), do - but it is in no way a sure-fire sign that it will have a bad story.
Argh, that was horribly worded, I should have gone to sleep when I said, but you get my point.
I hope...
Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree then. On the one point, not on the second point.Mimsofthedawg said:
Hey guys. Sorry that took so long. My friend Collin came over with a DVD and his SKS because he's an idiot who doesn't know how to clean Cosmoline out of a barrel, and we ended up watching "One Night in Mangkok." I swear to God if Hong Kong cinema were a woman we would all combust just by looking at her.
Anyway, my girlfriend just came back from her friends house with the Deathnote DVD (turns out the disc wasn't in the box. She had loaned it to her friend and drove over to get it back.)
Anyway, the DVD just popped into the player.
It is go time. We are doing this. My girlfriend, myself, and our mutual friend Jack Daniels are sitting down and watching this movie. Updates to follow.
Anyway, my girlfriend just came back from her friends house with the Deathnote DVD (turns out the disc wasn't in the box. She had loaned it to her friend and drove over to get it back.)
Anyway, the DVD just popped into the player.
It is go time. We are doing this. My girlfriend, myself, and our mutual friend Jack Daniels are sitting down and watching this movie. Updates to follow.
Aha, enjoy yourself, all of you, hope you like it.Texas America Murphy said:
But I will not desist untill you either like anime, or have watched Claymore.
...Enjoy, and good night. =)
I think he's just afraid of answering me, or the other people here who are finally starting to give some actual points instead of fanboy rage. Oh well, I'm off too. To bed that is, I'll check this thread again tomorrow to see how far we've come convincing him. =]Texas America Murphy said:
And at Niagro, I won't either, although I'm more of a Clannad type!
You don't get to watch so many Mexican soap operas do you?Texas America Murphy said:
OT: There aren't so many worthwhile animes in my opinion, they are only 1 good worthwhile anime in every 10, just like games. Those animes I cannot say they are reprentive of the whole anime genre.
Otakus really piss me off, but I must admit there are some great animes that you might enjoy, but I cannot guarantee anything. Here goes my list:
Serial Experiments Lain
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni
Hellsing Ultimate
RahXephon
Elfen Lied
Darker than Black (please do not watch the second season).
Death Note
My favorites are the first four by the way, but still don't be too harsh to animes as there are some really good ones. But I guess you can be harsh to otakus, for me thanks to them I tend to despise anime more than I used to. This is probably ones of the most generous anime-related posts that I have done, but whatever...
Yeah Im the guy who posted witchblade and I was recommended to it back when it first came out in 2006. At first I thought it was gonna be an oversexualized anime with lots of violence, but I finally gave it a chance and...wow its a character driven story and this is basically all the violence in the whole show really. (turn it up to 480p in the video)Niagro said:
How bout Shigofumi? IT doesnt have that typical garbage like big headed expressions, bouncy boobs, stupid annoying schoolgirls etc.Texas America Murphy said:
Each episode deals with things like child abuse, suicide, depression, society, betrayal, revenge; while learning of the origins of the main character. And no its not as depressing as it sounds its actually very thought provoking.
And Elfen Lied does the same except with tons of nudity and gore.
Pick whichever one you like.
Deathnote Update 1:
I swear to God I am going to take this fucking Korean DVD player outback and shoot it like an enemy combatent.
I swear to God I am going to take this fucking Korean DVD player outback and shoot it like an enemy combatent.
It is as many people said before and in all the other threads with self-proclaimed artistic judicators that said some combination of they dislike anime, don't get it, think it is stupid, etc. that it is a matter of personal preference. If the sum of your encounters with anime is a few random episodes of Naruto, Code Geass, and Guren Lagan then I have to say that you have no real stake or place in so much as speaking about it. Sure, first impressions and all, but really you have as much place talking about it as I do talking about the history of Swaziland. Another issue is as others have said; anime titles tend to be highly un-episodic. Not always, but a lot of the time one episode changes things greatly, so starting in the middle means nothing to anyone unless you already understand how that world works- bringing us to another pair of points. Just like anything else there are genres under anime (the usual: sci-fi, fantasy, slice-of-life, comedy, modern, period pieces, etc.) and if you don't understand the rules of that particular world which are introduced at the beginning and build into throughout, then you won't understand why anything works the way it does (except in the case of Naruto where him wearing orange is never explained and makes no sense at all since he rarely did anything to hide other than use trees or buildings or corners or something). The other point is that anime comes from Japan which has all kinds of different rule sets, values, customs, and (most importantly) history from the rest of the world.
So considering that you are judging it from: outside the originating nation's history, in the middle of a story, and standard fare rather than a more creamy crop it's natural that you would come to that conclusion.
That is assuming that you aren't intimately aware of Japanese history and culture (and by that I mean a lot of critical study, not just one or two courses).
Finally, good luck with the Death Note business and I hope you are starting from the beginning this time. If that doesn't work and you have at least a little tiny glimmer of possibility in the deepest recesses of your heart, then try Mushishi. I've yet to watch it myself, but I've determined the slightly sparse extremely positive reviews and no negative reviews to mean that people have collectively stepped away from it to not over-hype it and not let anything bad be said about it.
So considering that you are judging it from: outside the originating nation's history, in the middle of a story, and standard fare rather than a more creamy crop it's natural that you would come to that conclusion.
That is assuming that you aren't intimately aware of Japanese history and culture (and by that I mean a lot of critical study, not just one or two courses).
Finally, good luck with the Death Note business and I hope you are starting from the beginning this time. If that doesn't work and you have at least a little tiny glimmer of possibility in the deepest recesses of your heart, then try Mushishi. I've yet to watch it myself, but I've determined the slightly sparse extremely positive reviews and no negative reviews to mean that people have collectively stepped away from it to not over-hype it and not let anything bad be said about it.
Deathnote Update 2:
YOU SON OF A ***** DVD PLAYER. YOU PLAY DVDS FOR ME FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN BETRAY ME LIKE THIS! I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL BREAK INTO BEST BUY AND KILL YOUR ENTIRE DVD PLAYER FAMILY.
YOU SON OF A ***** DVD PLAYER. YOU PLAY DVDS FOR ME FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN BETRAY ME LIKE THIS! I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL BREAK INTO BEST BUY AND KILL YOUR ENTIRE DVD PLAYER FAMILY.
I dont know. I guess cause (to me at least) its a step up from cartoons and to serious shows that are still animated. Granted, not all Anime is good, but ones like Cowboy Bebop, Speed Grapher, um... hm... oh, Read Or Die are all great ways to tell a story and still have that adult feel while being able to do a lot with them.
-wrote in my Notebook-
Texas America Murphy's...DVD...player.
will suffer a magnificent, rage-inducing failure after two years of use.
Texas America Murphy's...DVD...player.
will suffer a magnificent, rage-inducing failure after two years of use.