what is the best assault rifle?

[TheRundownRabbit]

My favorite is the G36C

but the best is the M4A1 it is the standard assault rifle of both the marines and the army

However AK's are cheap and durable but very inaccurate

 

[sov68n]

Everyone that's arguing that the M16 is better than the AK because of accuracy, just remember this: Your M16's accuracy doesn't matter if your M16 is jammed and the enemy's AK-47 is not.

Every assault rifle has strengths and weaknesses that fit each to certain situations and I personally believe the AK is the best simply because of its raw stopping power and ability to keep shooting even if you kept it buried in mud.

 

[Tron900]

right, time to get a bit old skool,

hello BTW, first post.

My favorite has to be the HK G11.

Fires a 4.7mm caseless ammo, in the form of a "brick", with the bullets embeded in them. It uses a rotating bolt system and rips off a round from the brick the fires it, the chamber basically does what the brass casing usually does. No casing = lighter ammo = more ammo to carry!

It was developed during the cold war for rapid delopment of troops, when the east crossed into the west. its built out of lightweight materials and weighs only 5Kg loaded. cuase of the caseless ammo, it skips the ejection step, thus recoil, that usually comes from gas operated assault rifles, is non existent and all energy is used to propel the round = greater muzzle velocity for its weight.

optional scope

rate of fire: 550rpm fullauto, 2200rpm for 3 round burst.

down side: ammo is RARE, 4.7mm is not standard

 

[Snidenightshade]

AK 47 or AK 74 there both great weapons =]

 

[Xhumed]

the best assault rifle ever is the Lee-Enfield .303

To paraphrase Frankie the Eunuch in Preacher:
*CLICK-CLACK*
That's the sound of history my friend.

 

[Zacharine]

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..weighs only 5Kg loaded...

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That's quite a lot. An RK-95, using the 7.62x39mm ammo, with a full clip of 30 weights around 4,5kg; 3,7 without a clip. So 5kg is in fact quite a lot for a gun that is supposed to be saving weight. How big a clip are we talking about with the G11? 30? 40? 50?

I think you got a mistake there somewhere. No way G11 can weight 5kg fully loaded, unless it's with an insane amount of ammo in the mag.

EDIT: Didn't G11 also suffer from serious ammunition cook-off problem, resulting precisely from using caseless ammo? with normal ammo the casing absorbs a lot of the heat and is then ejected rapidly, preventing the actual chamber from becoming too hot. With caseless ammo the heat would have to stay in the chamber and risk prematurely igniting the next bullet...?

 

[chiefohara]

The FN FAL SLR was a pretty good weapon, Solid reliable and when a 7.62 round hit someone they were either dead or grievously wounded. Hit a person once and they are pretty much out of the fight apparently.

However i prefer the Steyer AUG, smaller calibre round, 5.56 (so it doesn't do as much damage as an FN). Mainly because its a dream to aim and its so blessedly light to carry for long periods. Its solid, light, dependable and easy to use and unless something is physically broken inside it clears quickly with a jam and the transparent magazine saves you counting bullets.

As for the M-16 M-14 or AK-47 / 74 etc etc. argument i've never used either of those weapons but i tend to think the simpler the better. So if anyone is actually counting votes i'd go for the more modern version of the AK's.

 

[chiefohara]

Did Lincoln pull an M-16A2 out of his hat and blow Batman away with a ratatat-tat?

I rest my case.

LOL

 

[Zacharine]

Snip...

..weighs only 5Kg loaded...

Snip

That's quite a lot. An RK-95, using the 7.62x39mm ammo, with a full clip of 30 weights around 4,5kg; 3,7 without a clip. So 5kg is in fact quite a lot for a gun that is supposed to be saving weight. How big a clip are we talking about with the G11? 30? 40? 50?

I think you got a mistake there somewhere. No way G11 can weight 5kg fully loaded, unless it's with an insane amount of ammo in the mag.

EDIT: Didn't G11 also suffer from serious ammunition cook-off problem, resulting precisely from using caseless ammo? with normal ammo the casing absorbs a lot of the heat and is then ejected rapidly, preventing the actual chamber from becoming too hot. With caseless ammo the heat would have to stay in the chamber and risk prematurely igniting the next bullet...?

It was a 50-round magazine, I believe, and yes, it did suffer from ammunition cook-off, which is why they haven't done any significant experiments with caseless ammunition since.

Thanks for confirming that RAK.

Oh, and also managed to confirm the weight of the G11. Its not 5kg, its 3.6 kg empty, 4.3 kg loaded with a mag of 50.

A quick calculation shows that the 7.62x39 weights around 22 grams total, the G11 ammo of 4.73x33 around 12 grams total.

That makes more sense.

 

[Ishnuvalok]

Everyone that's arguing that the M16 is better than the AK because of accuracy, just remember this: Your M16's accuracy doesn't matter if your M16 is jammed and the enemy's AK-47 is not.

The newer M16's are pretty reliable. As long as you clean them, and if you're a well trained soldier, you WILL clean your weapon regularly. I see the M16 as a superior military weapon, the AKM is good for militiamen and insurgents as it requires very little maintenance, and is easy to use.

For me, I'd choose the M16 if I knew how to clean it and had access to extra parts and cleaning supplies, because I know that I can actually hit something with the M16. To people complaining about the 5.56x45mm rounds stopping power, only against enemies that have drugged themselves does this prevent a real problem, otherwise the 5.56x45 will preform superbly.

 

[SIXVI06]

I'd have to say that the Tavor is a beautiful weapon after reading up on it.

More compact than the M16, matches its firepower, and seems to be more accurate with more functions on it than the M16 itself.

 

[Vrex360]

The Tommy Gun... that thing is ICONIC.

That's... that's not even a rifle!

Okay, fair call... sorry I had just been watching a lot of old 30's era crime movies so I just had that on the brain.

I guess maybe, in that case.... the MA5B Assault Rifle from Halo Combat evolved.

And as for weapons that actually exist, M16.

 

[wildpeaks]

ive always heard the debate between the AK-47 vs the M-16A2, but a freind of mine recently brought up the fact that he thinks the G-36 is the best assault rifle ever made. this made me think that the M-16 and the AK-47 arent the only ones on the market and maybe not the best. so i ask you all, if you had to go into battle what assault rifle would you want?

(im not adding a poll because there are so many to choose from)

I can't tell for real life, but in games, M16 is usually always my favorite (except in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. where the G36 wins hands down).

 

[A.A.K]

Now that we've mentioned the big shots - the FN SCAR, the AK-47/74/101/103, the M16a1/a2/a4, the G36 and the L85a1, lets talk about the under-appreciated gems.
like say...the VHS Assault Rifle-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS_assault_rifle

You pull the trigger. the bad guys fall down.

 

[Tonimata]

There are no good assault rifles. They're all built to hurt or kill people, and that is not my definition of "good".

Yet your avatar is a guy holding what looks like an oversized revolver
I still agree with you, in fact, after watching the movie Gamer, I couldn't agree more with you. Sure the movie wasn't great, but the message was. If everyone that is voting for their favourite rifle here were to actually hold one and be asked to kill someone with it, or worse, survive a real life combat situation, they'd be more than pissed in their pants. I once made a thread asking if FPS were getting childs and people who play the altogether mentally prepared to face that sort of situation. However, I was denied. Contrasting these two experiences, I get to think that instead of readying us, they are making us wanting to get in these situations without actually showing us the sheer brutality that has to be faced in these situations, by always giving the players an infinite respawn. Hell, I still panic when I do airsoft with my friends (and that usually makes me en up screaming for help). Altogether, I think that, like the aforementioned movie implies, obsession with these themes is terrible, as it can lead to very serious results.

Please forgive the substantially long tangent

 

[Xvito]

There are no good assault rifles. They're all built to hurt or kill people, and that is not my definition of "good".

Yet your avatar is a guy holding what looks like an oversized revolver

Oh, the irony!

Look up the anime Trigun. Watch it and you'll understand.

 

[JohnSmith]

AK-108 It is a 5.56mm version of the ak-47 with recoil suppression.

 

[ssgt splatter]

It's kinda hard to decide but it seems like people are choosing weapons from CoD4 so I'd have to go with the G36c for now. When MW2 comes out, I might change that though.

 

[Steelfists]

HK 416. Has all the advantages of the M4, like accuracy, and has incredible reliability, just like the AK47. It can be fired underwater!