what is the best assault rifle?

[[Gavo]]

XM8 hands down.

 

[That One Six]

AK-47. It is extremely reliable and quite powerful. Also, it has been in use for decades. Who would use a gun that didn't work for that long?

 

[Snotnarok]

I'll say the Pulse Rifle from Aliens, because it's just awesome.

 

[Valiance]

The Steyr Aug.

If I had to get married to an object...

 

[whaleswiththumbs]

"Best"? Difficult to define. However overall I would have to say the AK-47. Or maybe one of the later AK designs like the AK-103; I don't know much about them.

I like the AK 74 it's just like a 47 with modern-istic qualities.

Although this one pulls in close:

 

[megatron2.0]

ak-47 bt far the best gun made.

 

[MrTacticalNightmare]

it really depends on what your role in your team is, if you're a designated marksman (medium to long range)then I'm 100% behind bulletinmybrain, the SCAR-H fires the same, Huge round that the m14 fires, and full auto.

but if you're in a closer quarters situation I'd go with a bulpup gun like the TAR-21 (Tavor) due to it's conservation of accuracy with its outrageously short length.

those are my two cents.

 

[Echo3Delta]

i have qualified expert on the M-16A2. it was difficult. in the 50 rounds i put down range it jammed twice.
so while i know it inside and out, i still cant say i like it or that i feel comfortable having to rely on it. S.P.O.R.T.S. is not a solution to the jamming problem!

First thing I thought after reading this was that u must be a Marine. That sounds like our rifle qual course. Having read further, I see ur Air Force. U guys use the same course we do? Also, we're using M16-A4's now. I've never had a jam with those. Might also have something to do with the new heavier, black H&K mags we're using. Fun Fact: We're also using M4's to qualify now. Haven't tried it myself, but looking forward to it.

Far as which weapon I'd go to combat with, I'm gonna cheat and say M249 Squad Automatic Weapon. I know, technically a light machine gun, but I just <3 it so much!

 

[KazukiFerret]

Well that depends, are we also counting battlerifles like some of the others have on here. Considering that an assualt rifle is a selective fire carbine that uses a shorterned cartridge like the 7.62x39mm, the 5.56x45mm or the newer 6.5 the best I'd have to say is the AK series. The M16/AR15 family are fairly finicky weapons that need a lot of maitance and tender love and care and the 5.56 is by no means my favourite round in the world. And then bullpup designs like the SA-80, Steyr AUG and Tavor are difficult to work with, have loosy trigger pull and cannot use drum magazines they instantly get marked down in my book.

New designs like the 416 are unproven and I've never had the chance to play with them myself so due to lack of data I have to decline to make a judgement, same on the guns chambering the 6.5 and 6.8; they've never seen combat to my knowledge so I can't make an opinion either.

The G36 series is decent enough but again, slinging a 5.56 they lack a significant punch. Thus marking them down.

Overall, the AK series is in my opinion the best on the planet and they come in almost any caliber you want. Veriants range from the original 7.62x39 to the newer 5.45 and even the western 5.56 and there are even ones that sling battle rifle cartrigdes like the 7.62x51 NATO available. And there are hundreds of after market parts available for even cheaper than the M16/AR15 series.

 

[park92]

the M4A1 cause the standard M4 only has 3 burst and semi auto and maybe the G36C cause it looks so damn cool and maybe the f2000 cause it has a built in scope and grenade launcher i think

 

[NotAProdigy]

H&K 417

It's an M4, but made by zee Germans and chambered for a 7.62x51mm round.

I AGREE!

 

[mini-moose]

Tough choice between the L85A2 and the FN SCAR-Heavy both are good assualt rifles (yes I used the word good because I don't see the death of others as a bad thing).

 

[Crimsane]

Whichever one the guy who gets the drop on you has.

 

[John Stalvern]

AR2

 

[DirkGently]

Barret REC7-M468. Too expensive for the US military. Thats how you know its awesome.

Because it's far too costly to replace their stock of 5.56 munitions, as well as pay for over-priced upper recievers for the M4? Try the HKM417: It's actually worth what it costs and was designed for the modern battlefield. So it's a M4 upper receiver with a bunch of extra rails and cubby holes and shit. Stop mentioning guns that are noting but rechambered versions of existing weapons. It's lazy, is what it is.

Who needs assault rifles when you have sexy ass guns like the P90?

If you like that you'll love this...

Spoiler

I was just about to say that The F2000 always makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

I suppose given that Kalashnikova sat down and thought about every battle he'd ever fought while designing the AKM, it's gonna be the most suitable weapon for most combat situations, so probably one of the updated AKs... Even if the F2000 is just so damn sexy. I'm no gun nut, I have hardly any idea how they work and I'm a terrible marksman but, well... Just look at it. Like black granite sculpted with a massive hard on for sci fi looking stuff.

It lacks lots of little flashing/pulsing lights. It's not sci-fi, it just looks like poorly set plastic or epoxy or something.

Who needs assault rifles when you have sexy ass guns like the P90?

Oh, god, I can't wait to write that section on my Probing The Inaccuracies thread. You people thinking that the P90 is so spectacular are going to be so savaged.

It's a wonderful weapon, in theory, and Counter Strike. There's a reason it's not the standard issue weapon, though. Can't wait to hear your take on it.

Try finding an AK-47. They don't fucking exist anymore. 47 stands for the year 1947 when production began, you'd have to steal it from a fucking museum or some ones grandfather. When you say "yeh I'd go fer a ak47 lulz," all you are really saying is that you would want an AK-74 or one of the Chinese clones of the 47. All of which are basically as reliable as the original model, with differences in caliber and quality of material.
Damnit.
Anyway. That aside I would probably choose some bullpup rifle design. They allow for longer barrel length in a smaller overall package, plus I am right handed so I wouldn't have to be massively alarmed about building corners.

It's Automovat Klashinaokv model of 1947. That's when it was designed and went into production. The term "AK-47" refers to any number of guns that use this design, whether they be Chinese, Russian, Soviet-era, Chezch, DDR, or any other number of nation that can make this easily produced and assembled weapon. The thing has like three goddamned moving parts, counting the bullets.

Americans, we're like Nazis we kill the weak too.

you shouldnt post anymore.
its shit like thats that people need to remember when they wonder why our country has such a bad reputation!
even if your joking all it takes is for this to be seen by someone who thinks your serious.

You do realize you are asking me to give up my right to free speech because you don't like what I said. If I do will you promise to make the trains run on time and punish the traitors to fatherland?

I quote Ian Kershaw "The path to Auschwitz was paved with indifference." Mindless flag waving allowed an unjustifiable war to start that has ended the lives of well over three thousands US Soldiers,Marines, Air Force and Navy personnel who bravely volunteered to serve. The money invested in fighting the Iraq War could literally provide affordable health care to every US citizen, improve and build schools so US students can compete abroad academically and eventually economically as entrepreneurs and workers thus repaying every dollar spent several times over. I may say nasty things because America is not weak and does not needs it's feeling protected. We all have to face cold hard truths about what we have and are doing at home and abroad and actually change for the better as individuals and as a nation.

im not FORCING you to give up anything. i am merely making a sugestion. you have the right to say what you like, but that doesnt always mean its a good fucking idea.

I said that you asked me to give up my rights not forced. Now if you forced me to give up my right to free speech than the Second Amendment may or may not come into play. Now if what I say is slander than a judge can stop me or fine me or if what I say is a threat to you or the public than the authorities have the right to stop me and if I resist the right to use lethal force to stop me.

exactly. i asked. i have the right to ask you to do something. doesnt mean you have to comply. you have the right to say what you want and i have the right to tell you to fuck off. your not forcing me to believe as you do and im not forcing you to shut the fuck up.
YAY we're both exercising our rights!
so you can continue to spew your anti-american hatred and i will continue to laugh at your childish idealistic views.

His point is that he offered his opinion and all you had to say is "Shut up, you shouldn't talk", but, of course, in much poorer form. If anything, you shouldn't be the one to post anymore since you clearly lack the ability to communicate peacefully with others. You're like the now-banned Indigo Dingo; "People have different opinions than me? Then they clearly are WRONG and I must be a semi-snarky dick about it! (PS3!PS3!PS3!PS3!PS3!PS3!PS3!PS3!)"

Also, seriously people, what the fuck, images go in spoiler tags, this is not hard.

 

[DirkGently]

Damn-and-blast, stupid double post. See above, edited message.

 

[Xivilai87]

How about the one that keeps you alive in a firefight?

given a choice, the M-8... just cause

 

[I Framed OJ]

I know acouple of guys in the army, In spec ops stuff. Like 3RAR, its Australian Version of Delta Force. Anyway, they all agree that in a fire fight, the only thing they want is an M16 (nominally A2 but also M4's for water stuff) because although the round is the 5.56x45mm NATO round of the Styer AUG (Australian Military Rifle), the Styer only has a good 300m (more if sight is custom) where as the M16 is 550-600m standard. Also there is more powder in the 45mm cartride than the 7.62x39mm in an AK-47. 6mm extra may not seem much but it incrases the volume very largly. Also AK-47's just spray lead with little accuracy. As for H&K G36, it has a shorter barrel, making it less accurate. All up I'd put my money on M16's anyday.

 

[US Crash Fire]

i have qualified expert on the M-16A2. it was difficult. in the 50 rounds i put down range it jammed twice.
so while i know it inside and out, i still cant say i like it or that i feel comfortable having to rely on it. S.P.O.R.T.S. is not a solution to the jamming problem!

First thing I thought after reading this was that u must be a Marine. That sounds like our rifle qual course. Having read further, I see ur Air Force. U guys use the same course we do? Also, we're using M16-A4's now. I've never had a jam with those. Might also have something to do with the new heavier, black H&K mags we're using. Fun Fact: We're also using M4's to qualify now. Haven't tried it myself, but looking forward to it.

Far as which weapon I'd go to combat with, I'm gonna cheat and say M249 Squad Automatic Weapon. I know, technically a light machine gun, but I just <3 it so much!

yeah i joined the Air Force cause the Marine corps only did crash fire rescue and no structural or wildland firefighting. so it kinda sucked having 4 years of MCJROTC for nothing. and yeah we have to qualify on the M-16 "A2". the ones we qualify on are old A1's converted to A2. you can tell because the engraving that says M-16 is kinda worn and the same color as the rest of the rifle and the A2 part is a different font , differnt size, off center, and recently engraved. so that might have something to do with it. as for using the same course as you guys, not so much. ours is an indoor range (at Travis anyway) using simulated distances (smaller targets on the paper) and we dont have a marksman, sharpshooter, expert grading system. for Air force you need to shoot 42 out of 50. we call that small arms expert or expert marksman. last time i shot i got 47 out of 50 and thats with it jamming twice. and what are those HK mags your talking about? and from what i was told by a reservist (i dont know why they have fucking M4's) if you set the stock to its longest setting it feels just like a M-16A4.