What is "True Evil"
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No in a universal term.
In a matter of someone opinion absolutely. From my perspective It's probably the subversion of someones free will against there knowing and murder for the sake of murderer deep seeded hate.
In a matter of someone opinion absolutely. From my perspective It's probably the subversion of someones free will against there knowing and murder for the sake of murderer deep seeded hate.
Torturing a toddler to death is evil. There are no circumstances of any kind that could make it not evil. It is evil for every person who ever existed, in all times, all places, all cultures, throughout the history of the universe.
Anyone who tries to tell you that torturing a toddler to death "might not be evil per se" is either insane or so criminally brainwashed by a morally relativistic society that they can look at black and call it white. Anyone who reasons in this fashion isn't worth talking with; the foundation of their worldview is so totally opposed to reality that it's impossible to reason with them.
There are many other acts of pure evil, usually about one person harming another for his own pleasure or to further his own goals. The serial killers several posters have mentioned are pretty clear examples of evil.
Also, if there were not things that are "evil for all people in all cultures anywhere at any time"... if a society or an individual could determine "right" and "wrong" for themselves... then the Nuremberg Trials would've been nonsense.
We might not always know what's the right thing to do in this or that specific circumstance, but there's a solid standard of right and wrong that is part of reality and not up to people to decide.
Anyone who tries to tell you that torturing a toddler to death "might not be evil per se" is either insane or so criminally brainwashed by a morally relativistic society that they can look at black and call it white. Anyone who reasons in this fashion isn't worth talking with; the foundation of their worldview is so totally opposed to reality that it's impossible to reason with them.
There are many other acts of pure evil, usually about one person harming another for his own pleasure or to further his own goals. The serial killers several posters have mentioned are pretty clear examples of evil.
Also, if there were not things that are "evil for all people in all cultures anywhere at any time"... if a society or an individual could determine "right" and "wrong" for themselves... then the Nuremberg Trials would've been nonsense.
We might not always know what's the right thing to do in this or that specific circumstance, but there's a solid standard of right and wrong that is part of reality and not up to people to decide.
Evil is a word that religion uses to dumb down the issue of immediate pleasure at the cost of long term pain. Rape, Murder, Theft, Sadism, Addiction .. etc are all examples of things that are usually termed "evil" .. in reality all of those things are simply "an unprofitable choice".
I think that who ever created the concept of good vs evil believed that the majority of human beings would be too stupid to figure out that while all of those things may be satisfying at first, they eventually lead to conflict, pain, misery and even death.
Personally .. I think the need to conceptualise things as "good and evil" is expiring, I would like to believe that we can evolve to the point where we can see that NOT causing rape/murder etc. is in fact the most logical choice and simply adhere to common sense.
I think that who ever created the concept of good vs evil believed that the majority of human beings would be too stupid to figure out that while all of those things may be satisfying at first, they eventually lead to conflict, pain, misery and even death.
Personally .. I think the need to conceptualise things as "good and evil" is expiring, I would like to believe that we can evolve to the point where we can see that NOT causing rape/murder etc. is in fact the most logical choice and simply adhere to common sense.
A man breaks into your home,and proceeds to stab your Father 76 tuimes in the chest,flushes your kittens down the toilet,rapes your Mother,Sister,and maybe Daughter and Wife, then Stabs them too, all while singing "Its Friday" and wearing Green Socks and Hot Pink Shoes.
Also, they talk with a lisp in no context requiring it and talk like THYME and PHAT.
Also, they talk with a lisp in no context requiring it and talk like THYME and PHAT.
definatly agree with you there alot of people seem to think their is no sutch thing a pure evill but I agree with you 100% if someone causes serious harm for no reason outher than theire own enjoyment with ful idea of what the conseqences are they are true evill
"Evil" is a label brought about by those who consider themselves "Good".
To me, "True Evil" are the rich. ((those who DONT deserve it anyway.))
The average Basketball player makes 2.6 MILLION USD a year. All for dribbling a ball and showing up on time.
Yes, they have to be physically fit to play basketball, and yes, theres the chance of long term Injuries. But 2.6 million? Why not 1 million? And put the rest to charities, homeless, and rebuilding America's failing economy?
How about Bill Gates? Yes, he helped build a Technical Revolution that completely changes the way the world works. But why is he worth 56 BILLION USD?!?!?
You couldnt spend that kind of money in 10 lifetimes, let alone one! Yes, he does donate millions to charity. But why not donate BILLIONS!?!? Its not like he cant afford it! He makes more in a year then most people could in 5 life times!
"True Evil" is having the ability to logically do MORE, but not doing it.
Sending money over seas to starving children? Good. The fact that 10c of every dollar goes to the pockets people already rich? True Evil.
To me, "True Evil" are the rich. ((those who DONT deserve it anyway.))
The average Basketball player makes 2.6 MILLION USD a year. All for dribbling a ball and showing up on time.
Yes, they have to be physically fit to play basketball, and yes, theres the chance of long term Injuries. But 2.6 million? Why not 1 million? And put the rest to charities, homeless, and rebuilding America's failing economy?
How about Bill Gates? Yes, he helped build a Technical Revolution that completely changes the way the world works. But why is he worth 56 BILLION USD?!?!?
You couldnt spend that kind of money in 10 lifetimes, let alone one! Yes, he does donate millions to charity. But why not donate BILLIONS!?!? Its not like he cant afford it! He makes more in a year then most people could in 5 life times!
"True Evil" is having the ability to logically do MORE, but not doing it.
Sending money over seas to starving children? Good. The fact that 10c of every dollar goes to the pockets people already rich? True Evil.
What if a person held a gun up to your head and would shoot you if you didn't rape another person.Mr.Numbers said:
I can see how that could force you into committing the act, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do.LongLiveourMachine said:
when you have no fear, guilt, or any interference from your conscience when you commit wrong doings. or look at the Joker or the main character from the first part of "A Clockwork Orange".
Well i don't think in that situation you have much of a choice, it's either you rape or you dieTheKruzdawg said:
Your avatar.Albino Assassin said:Okay so the title pretty tells you everything but just incase...
I want to know what the escapists idea on "True Evil" is. No I am not doing this for any particular reason I am just curious...
I want to marry it.
*Cough* Anywho, I just think it's all per definition. But if I had to pinpoint one thing I thought was really truly evil it has to be my brothers mentor Olav when he was the "playmaster" of our D&D game.
I swear that man was the most cruel being on the planet during the sessions.
My poor character...
There is no such thing as evil.
It's just like everything else: Something's "Evil" because almost everyone thinks so, but that doesn't make it evil (per se). Just like other things; you're free to name potatoes "toilets" from now on, but that doesn't mean shit because nobody else does.
"Could you pass me the toilets please, I'm feeling a wee bit peckish"
Actually, that image fits really well with that line... Yay?
Something evil is only evil when you target it at the wrong person. Eating you fellow man is considered evil, but not if you're stranded on a mountain or something.
It's just a name given to stuff we find to be "Unacceptable". Although most of the time it's given to people we just find "Amusing" like the dude in the picture above. Curious...
It's just like everything else: Something's "Evil" because almost everyone thinks so, but that doesn't make it evil (per se). Just like other things; you're free to name potatoes "toilets" from now on, but that doesn't mean shit because nobody else does.
"Could you pass me the toilets please, I'm feeling a wee bit peckish"
Actually, that image fits really well with that line... Yay?
Something evil is only evil when you target it at the wrong person. Eating you fellow man is considered evil, but not if you're stranded on a mountain or something.
It's just a name given to stuff we find to be "Unacceptable". Although most of the time it's given to people we just find "Amusing" like the dude in the picture above. Curious...
Evil does exist. It is unrestrained selfishness. Anytime someone acts without any regard for how their actions will affect those around them, that is evil. It may not be cartoonish, super-villain evil, but it is without a doubt evil.
Note that this does not mean that everything you do must be pleasing to others. Being "good" simply means behaving in a way that acknowledges the existence and worth of other human beings; being "evil" means behaving as if you are the only person.
Note that this does not mean that everything you do must be pleasing to others. Being "good" simply means behaving in a way that acknowledges the existence and worth of other human beings; being "evil" means behaving as if you are the only person.
i somewhat recently heard about a story in which someone raped a mans son, so to get revenge, the father revenge raped the rapist. sounds justified to me, if not a bit weird. surely you cant say that you wouldnt choose murder as the better option? (even if that is what you would have done in that situation)Angerwing said:
anyway, genocide is something that is truly evil. killing innocents in general, too.
Well it's certainly not an act, no act is inherently evil, it's all about the circumstances.
And it's certainly not a charecteristic, that depends almost entirely on your point of view.
The only logical conclusion, in my opinion is that it doesn't exist.
And it's certainly not a charecteristic, that depends almost entirely on your point of view.
The only logical conclusion, in my opinion is that it doesn't exist.