What is wrong with the internet?

[Nouw]

Telling a teacher is the right thing to do, giving him a knuckle sandwich is the faster and (temporary) fix. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Said like someone who's never been bullied, telling a teacher solves exactly NOTHING, Bullies are cowards and as long as they have nothing to fear but a possible scolding they are gonna keep bullying, giving them a knuckle-sandwich is the permanent solution. Now that the bully knows that there may be immediate physical reprisal he will move on to another weak kid, someone who probably can't defend himself or has been told that he shouldn't by people like you, and so he'll bear that the rest of his school years.

Telling the teacher is almost always completely ineffectual, and telling kids that they shouldn't fight back is the biggest thing there has been done to damage the victims of bullying since bullying became a major problem.

I have been bullied and the problem solved itself. I didn't make any physical contact, didn't tell a teacher (should have) but it was a done and dusted deal.

Violence isn't a solution, get over it.
[sub]I'm not a fucking hippy or a pacifist either.[/sub]

 

[Trelmayas]

Funny how no one gave a shit when Casey was getting bullied, but everyone is in an uproar when he has the audacity to defend himself. That's the way it works though. If it's a kid bullying another kid, it's not a problem, and the authorities ignore it. But if the one bullied actually stands up for himself, it's a fight and something has to be done.

Ultimately, if that jerk got injured, it's the school's and parents' fault for allowing this crap to go on in the first place.

 

[elvor0]

You ever been bullied kid? It's not nice, stop white knighting people who don't deserve it and don't say bollocks like "Tell a teacher" or "Walk away", because anyone that's ever been bullied knows that doesn't work for shit.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

I've said this in another thread but unfortunately that got ignored. BOTH kids have problems. Casey has rage fits DUE to being bullied and protecting the bullies will NOT help Casey. They NEED to be helped, both of them. People aren't born bullies. Some psychological trauma is necesarry for them to have absolutely no empathy for those around them. Casey obviously has psychological trauma resulting from years of abuse at the hands of the bullies, but the bullies themselves also have a problem. Be it they were/are bullied themselves or they have problems at home they also need help. Both these kids have problems with their rage. The difference is, one of them is releasing it by torturing other kids and the other is just keeping it inside him due to being to afraid to act.

BOTH of their behaviors can be excused. The bully is releasing his rage by harassing other kids whilst Casey was keeping his inside. Once it built up enough he released it in the form of beating up that bully. They BOTH need help. The bully's source of rage needs to be found and blocked off be it those other "friends" of his or maybe even his parents. He needs to be put into counseling to deal with his problems. If no problem can be found then he obviously has a mental disorder which can also be treated.

Casey needs theraphy to help with his own rage brought on by years of abuse. The reason for this is obvious and attempting to demonize him without understanding what actually brought him to give in to his instincts is absolutely moronic, the same way attempting to demonize the other kid for also giving in to his instincts is moronic.


I did the same thing not to long ago without delving in deeper. Think about it for a second and you'll see this makes sense.

 

[keve4433]

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Telling a teacher is the right thing to do, giving him a knuckle sandwich is the faster and (temporary) fix. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

This isn't always true. The public school system is terrible when it comes to dealing with any kind of bullying. Normally the bully just gets a harsh talking to, a call home, and a few days suspension. Then when they get back they beat you for ratting them out. I would bet my life that Cacey went and talked to the teachers and admins at his school and they just didn't care. After a while instinct took over and he fought back.

Let me put it this way. No, violence isn't always the answer, but sometimes it is the only one. The kind of people that bully others are not normally the kind that will stop if you say please. They want to look big, tough, and cool, and what better way to do that then pick on someone twice your size. I have been bullied for the last six years of my life and I can tell you the only way to deal with these people is to fight back and defend yourself.

 

[tonymontana16]

Whats wrong with the internet?Everything!!!!!!

 

[AreYouDumb]

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Telling a teacher is the right thing to do, giving him a knuckle sandwich is the faster and (temporary) fix. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

This isn't always true. The public school system is terrible when it comes to dealing with any kind of bullying. Normally the bully just gets a harsh talking to, a call home, and a few days suspension. Then when they get back they beat you for ratting them out. I would bet my life that Cacey went and talked to the teachers and admins at his school and they just didn't care. After a while instinct took over and he fought back.

Let me put it this way. No violence isn't always the answer, but sometimes it is the only one. The kind of people that bully others are not normally the kind that will stop if you say please. They want to look big, tough, and cool, and what better way to do that then pick on someone twice your size. I have been bullied for the last six years of my life and I can tell you the only way to deal with these people is to fight back and defend yourself.

Couldn't agree more, violence is not a 100 percent garuntee to stop bullying, it can lead to the victim believing that is the only solution to deal with bullying (or in the worst case scenario being slighted by someone). The real issue lies in the school system being able to identify and tackle bullying, they are highly incompetent at that and can just excarbate the situtation. Which is why in the practicalities of the situation Casey was well within in the right of "humbling" the bully and showed great self restraint by not pummeling the bully further.

I can only hope the situation cools down and Casey does not bring himself into a string of fights with people.

EDIT

After having a discussion with a teacher, it also appears that educating students to intervene when bulling occurs will create a enviroment of support, which means less bullying will occur because bullies will fear being ostrascised by other students.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

He was not close to killing him. Even if he did and I know this sounds cold but we need less people like that little brat in the world. Besides it feel good to kick a recuring bully's ass.

 

[Gigano]

Kid was taking blows to his face, he had every right to defend himself using (counter)violence.

Might have gone a bit far, but that he was apparently surrounded, being beaten, and had suffered severe bullying for years makes him snapping and not exactly thinking about a tactically measured response considering all anatomical risks quite understandable.

 

[Ralphfromdk]

Yeah, that Chasey kid was way out of line. Instead, he should have taken the beating, then confronted the kid alone (we don't want witnesses do we now) told that if he ever came near him again, bad things would happen to him and his family.
Then the very same night, he should have torched the car of the bully's parents, and next day in school go: "so i heard that some one set your parents car on fire last night, huh?" then wink and smirk to let him know.
After that, the kid should be leaving him alone for good.


.......Not that I ever did this, now why would you think such a silly thing.

 

[C95J]

Yes... nearly killed him....

the way I see it, it was a fair fight, Casey should NOT be punished, what the hell was he supposed to do?? Stand back and keep getting punched while passers by and teachers did absolutely nothing??

I say congratulations to Casey.

 

[Doclector]

Most have you have probaly heard / read the story of Casey the kid who got bullied and pile drove the bully into a sidewalk. There is a thread about it on this site, but on that thread and throughout the entire internet people are congratulating Casey
Casey nearly killed another child in a fit of rage, this is not a good thing! The bully wasnt right at all and should be punished but what about Casey? What is next time he goes into a rage fit he pile drives or pushes a kid and accidently kills them like he almost did already?

It would be bad if what cadet almost killed could be described honestly as human. It wasn't. It was a bully, and they gave up their rights when they decided it'd be fun to take away others. We have to move away from the idea that bullies can be "helped" or fixed. They are plain evil, simple as.

 

[benoitowns]

Its the bully's fault for messing with a person who can fight back. The kid should be congratulated for defending himself in such a cool way too!

 

[ZombieGenesis]

I agree, it's going too far and is largely a reaction of the gamer community who themselves were bullied. As a victim of it myself in the past though, I say any bullies who get their skulls cracked on the sidewalk are asking for it.

Besides, the kid was picking on a guy nearly twice his size. What did he think would happen?
Going by the Laws of Nature he should be dead by now anyway.

 

[Thimblefoot]

Sure he could have almost killed the little shithead, but at the time, he probably just didn't care, I would say he just snapped, and at that moment he just wanted to hurt the bully. Looking back I would assume he would be thinking "I could have killed him", but at the time he wouldn't be thinking straight.