What Skyrim Learned from Fallout 3

[Draconalis]

"You'll still run into the weaker stuff and you'll just decimate it."

Let's hope they don't devastate you in return while you're busy reducing them by 1/10.

 

[kouriichi]

Is it bad that im having withdraw symptoms for a game i havent even played yet?

I put Dark Souls in, "F*CK! I wanna play Skyrim"
I put Black Ops in, "F*CK!! I really wanna play Skyrim!"
I put Minecraft in, "HOLY F*CKING B*LLS! D: i neeeeed to play skyrim."

I get on the Escapist, and read about Skyrim, "FUUUUUUUU!!!"

Oh well.... only 2 weeks, 15 hours and 36 minutes. ((and 45 seconds))

 

[SextusMaximus]

Spoiler

Quick story:
The only game from Bethesda I've ever played is Fallout 3.
Fallout 3 is currently sitting in the #3 spot of my "Worst games ever" list. Number. Three. It was only outdone in shityness by Kane and Lynch 2 and Metroid Other M.
Needless to say, Bethesda found it's way to my list of worst developers because of it.

Now I've been glancing at Skyrim every few weeks and I actually thought that it looked like Bethesda was a going through a phase with the development of Fallout 3 where some sort of narcotic found it's way into the building's water supply... actually, if that did happen, Fallout 3 probably wouldn't have been anywhere near as dull, so it was probably something else.

Now I hear that they modelled a fair amount of Skyrim off of Fallout 3. Looks like I won't be paying anymore attention to Skyrim... or any near future Bethesda game. Oh well.

Well, they built a completely new engine for Skyrim from scratch. Not to mention the Elder Scrolls is COMPLETELY different from Fallout (I LOVE oblivion, but HATE Fallout 3). Also, why are Bethesda in your worst developers list if you've only ever played ONE of their games?

 

[Frostbite3789]

Hopefully they put a few machine guns in Skyrim... that would make things badass. I can imagine it now, my character riding on a dragon, my awesome bandanna of infinite ammo flailing in the wind, totting duel M240s in my arms as I descend upon a helpless village.

Now imagine the dragon is Trogdor. Did you grow a beard immediately when you thought that?

What is this magnificent face carpet sprouting from my jaw... could it be?! And... and it's playing a guitar?

How long before Trogdor is modded into Skyrim? A day?

 

[Drummie666]

Well, they built a completely new engine for Skyrim from scratch. Not to mention the Elder Scrolls is COMPLETELY different from Fallout (I LOVE oblivion, but HATE Fallout 3). Also, why are Bethesda in your worst developers list if you've only ever played ONE of their games?

The engine alone doesn't mean that the gameplay and mechanics won't be similar and this article is saying that there changing a few things to be more like Fallout 3 from oblivion. The fact that they did that in the slightest makes me give up all hope for Skyrim.

Also, calling one developer bad based on one game is based more on how much commitment they put in to it. For example, I don't say that DICE is a bad developer based on the multiplayer of Medal of Honor, because it was painfully obvious to me from playing it that DICE didn't give a shit about the project. But this is Fallout 3, this was a big, BIG game and they would have put a lot of effort into it. And it came out AWFUL.

 

[SextusMaximus]

Well, they built a completely new engine for Skyrim from scratch. Not to mention the Elder Scrolls is COMPLETELY different from Fallout (I LOVE oblivion, but HATE Fallout 3). Also, why are Bethesda in your worst developers list if you've only ever played ONE of their games?

The engine alone doesn't mean that the gameplay and mechanics won't be similar and this article is saying that there changing a few things to be more like Fallout 3 from oblivion. The fact that they did that in the slightest makes me give up all hope for Skyrim.

Also, calling one developer bad based on one game is based more on how much commitment they put in to it. For example, I don't say that DICE is a bad developer based on the multiplayer of Medal of Honor, because it was painfully obvious to me from playing it that DICE didn't give a shit about the project. But this is Fallout 3, this was a big, BIG game and they would have put a lot of effort into it. And it came out AWFUL.

Quite sad to be honest, II ask you just to try it with an open mind - trust me when I say that the two series - while borrowing similar, but few mechanics - are very, very different. The Elder Scrolls being Bethesda's flagrunner and the better of the two by far.

 

[Drummie666]

Quite sad to be honest, II ask you just to try it with an open mind - trust me when I say that the two series - while borrowing similar, but few mechanics - are very, very different. The Elder Scrolls being Bethesda's flagrunner and the better of the two by far.

If there's a demo, I'll give it a try, but that's all I'm going to give Skyrim. I may not be having an open mind right now, I admit that, but I just do not trust Bethesda after playing Fallout 3.

 

[Hat Man]

I rather liked Fallout 3. Sure the story was kinda not good, and I wish there was an option to join the Enclave.

But Fallout 3 did an unbelievably good job on the atmosphere. I still sometimes go back to that game just to soak in the atmosphere.

 

[SextusMaximus]

Quite sad to be honest, II ask you just to try it with an open mind - trust me when I say that the two series - while borrowing similar, but few mechanics - are very, very different. The Elder Scrolls being Bethesda's flagrunner and the better of the two by far.

If there's a demo, I'll give it a try, but that's all I'm going to give Skyrim. I may not be having an open mind right now, I admit that, but I just do not trust Bethesda after playing Fallout 3.

I can totally see where you're coming from, but it's a real shame. Try and play it at a mates house if you get the chance; if not, no biggie really.

 

[Agiel7]

I'm hoping the running isn't as floaty and there's a forward-side running animation now.

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

Oh my HHHHHNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG. I think i'm gunna have to pre-order this on Tuesday...

 

[brainslurper]

Here's another tip: Don't have a shitty ending. And on that same topic, don't have an ending that ends your game and prevents you from playing after the events of the main storyline.

If they pull that shit again...

 

[jthwilliams]

What Skyrim Learned from Fallout 3

Gone is Oblivion's monster leveling system where all enemies progressed at the same pace that your character did. "Skyrim's a lot more like Fallout 3, where as you level up you are going to see harder things, but the easier things stay around as well." said Howard. "You'll still run into the weaker stuff and you'll just decimate it."

Well think goodness. Now if only they'd release a fix for Oblivion itself. I mean the point of an RPG is that if you suck and fail a fight, you can go back and grind a bit and retry.

 

[Sean Steele]

I think when people complain about how much the story in Fallout 3 sucked, they missed the point of the game completely. The game worked much better in an exploratory, episodic manner (quests), as do RPGs in general. An over-arching story is good, but not necessary to have an awesome game.

So RPGs don't require good stories? Lolwut? You do know what the acronym RPG stands for right? Just for the record the Fallout 3 main plot was literally the worst story I've ever had the displeasure to endure.

Ahem, Diablo.

Furthermore what was so bad about Fallout 3's story? You leave the Vault track down your father find out about his past and finish his work whats terrible about that? Its a good servicable story surrounded by hundreds of other very interesting stories like Bigtown's Desperation, The Giant Ants of THOSE!, The Republic of Dave and the Ghouls of Underworld.

 

[matrix3509]

If I pointed out everything wrong with Fallout 3 main plot, I would:
1.) give myself an aneurysm thinking about it, and
2.) be here all day.

And no, thats not just an excuse to not name anything, because there really are too many things wrong with it to count. It falls apart the moment you leave the vault and only gets dumber to further you get.

 

[])rStrangelove]

I hope they also improve the combat.

Oblivion: run backwards, sing sword, block, run backwards, cast spell, etc.

+1
Skyrim should use the combat system from DarkMessiah which was lightyears ahead in terms of sheer fun.

 

[Vault Citizen]

"You'll still run into the weaker stuff and you'll just decimate it."

Does anyone have that clip where the Mexican tells that bald guy he doesn't think that word means what he think it means?

I do not think Mexican means what you think it means.

They aren't Mexican? Huh, it has been a while since I've seen that clip and I've never actually seen the movie/tv show/other that it belongs to so I don't have any context for it.

I guess we can add you to the list of people who still think they live in the Roman Empire?

Now that you mention it I did find the lack of Centurions in my area odd, I just assumed the empire was being lax when it came to military presence in peace time.

Its obvious Caesar has had to cut down on the military sector to pick up on ammounted debts. I hear the Senate isnt very happy with this decision....they might make some cuts to his measures.

But without the strong leadership of a dictator we will slide into democracy, this isn't Athens damnit!

 

[Schrodinger's Hat]

"You'll still run into the weaker stuff and you'll just decimate it."

Let's hope they don't devastate you in return while you're busy reducing them by 1/10.

To everyone who insists on pointing out the original "reduce by one tenth" meaning of the word decimate- this is not the meaning of the word now. Although dictionaries still list the original meaning, if you read the usage notes you will find that the original meaning is only used in two situations:

1. To talk about the military punishment historically.
2. To complain about the modern usage; to whit: to reduce to one-tenth.

This original meaning is an archaism; and in linguistics usage always wins. Words only mean what they are defined to mean.