What the devil happened to cheat devices?

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Also sites like CH charging exorbitant prices for trainers. That's right, you have to pay money to download a worthwhile trainer.
 

Athinira

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It's funny how basically almost everyone in this thread got this wrong and thinks this is because of achievements.

Guess what: WRONG. It's not about achievements (PC Games still have Trainers that allows you to hack achievement-enabled games). It's about console-based DRM.

The three big consoles of this generation (Wii, PS3, 360) all have DRM-systems in place that are based on - amongst other things - public key crypto. This means that all games you buy for these on a disc are basically encrypted on the disc, and only the console hardware is capable of encrypting AND decrypting it (until the PS3 got hacked). This makes it complicated beyond simply attaching a cheat-device. You have to break the DRM of the console to use cheats, and this is exactly what happened with the PS3. The PS3 saw it's share of cheats after its secrets went out.

The DRM on handheld consoles are much weaker (in some cases, close to non-existant) and therefore, creating cheat devices is a lot easier.
 

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anc[is]My personal theory is that Microsoft got their panties in a twist because it might mess up their precious achievements. The more likely answer is that games got too complex or companies wanted to protect their multiplayer.
It's actually the opposite. Those cheat devices (cheats in general) were there to help in the debugging. For a time, we got sophisticated enough to have elegant coding to obsolete their usage. Then mass-broadband came. Now we're back to square one, but cheat devices are still obsolete because you can just release a patch.
 

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Adultism said:
Probably already been stated but, Achievements, Trophies, and stuff like that. I love games that still have cheat codes so I can just rage on everything. Sadly we are at that day and age where those kinds of things are looked down upon as lack of skill or such things like it. I was called a noob for using cheats on GTA awhile ago. Why can't I just enjoy my games any ways I want to?
yeah, turning on the cheats in TF2 and playing with bots is so much fun!