What the hell happened to these bands???

[Nincompoop]

More or less make a tad bit more complicated music, and maybe something that has grown on them over the years.

I really hate characters like you. Just telling you. Don't f**king judge any band. Ever. And I can't speak on behalf of everybody else, but I hate threads like these. It's like the authors want a f**king medal for being anti-mainstream.

I dont give much of a shit if a band is mainstream or not, but when a band turns to trying to be mainstream, their trying to sell, therefore their very likely to stop being original and creative and go for a shitty formula that makes money.

And who are you to know exactly what they are thinking?

Music style is less important than what actually is happening in the song. Something can sound mainstream'ish sound, but the chords and tone material could be something you like.

There are lots of mainstream songs I do not like, but not because they are mainstream. In the same sense, there are some I really like. Shoot me, but I happen to like Girls Don't Cry or whatever tha hell that song is named, by Fergie. I mostly listen e.g. Shinedown, Trivium and Avenged Sevenfold.

My point is, mostly what people call mainstream has a certain sound, but it is not what is most important.

Mainstream is fake, but anti-mainstream is just as fake. This thread, in my opinion, smelled of exactly that.

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By sound I mean one of the three important factors of music. Tonality (chords 'n' stuff) and rhythm (when and how long everything is) are the primary, and then sound (singer's voice, distortion effects, and in larger perspective what we sometimes use to compare bands) comes next.

 

[Jaranja]

I prefer the second song, actually.

>.> so you prefer the generic one?

Yeah. First one sounds cluttered.

Your simply not used to the more complex and slightly worse production of the older In flames then.

Well, I listen to old Meshuggah a lot which is complex but doesn't sound cluttered like that.

And I shouldn't have to 'get used' to a song.

Let's just agree to disagree, yeah?

Sure, respect for listening to Meshuggah. ^.^

And you too, good sir.

May I ask if you like Tool?

 

[Strykz]

I didn't like the first songs intro but the song is better overall.

 

[Vault boy Eddie]

More or less make a tad bit more complicated music, and maybe something that has grown on them over the years.

I really hate characters like you. Just telling you. Don't f**king judge any band. Ever. And I can't speak on behalf of everybody else, but I hate threads like these. It's like the authors want a f**king medal for being anti-mainstream.

This, and wtf is mainstream, its a made up concept that varies from person to person. It means dick.

Well its mostly to do with trying to make money while giving up art and being trendy.

Well that's an opinion, not stated fact. Musical influences change through time, just cause someone gets acustomed to listening to a band that sounds a certain way doesn't mean the band has to keep playing that, if they do they become stagnant. And how is trying to make money bad, they are musicians! Unless they are also doctors and lawyers on the side, making music a few thousand people like isin't going to pay the bills. Alls im saying is that mainstream is a vague concept WAY too open to interpretation to be used legitimately.

 

[Agema]

Have a little sympathy.

One band I listen to have managed to trickle into the (UK) top 40 with some minor hits a few times and managed some okay selling albums, but pointed out that across the span of their career up to that point they'd have made more money by taking jobs as bus drivers.

Then there's another which made some quirky and hence little-listened-to songs, and then dramatically decided on a concept album, where the concept was to flog several hundred thousand copies so they could actually buy food without needing a day job for a year or two.

 

[Failurebot]

They got Linkin Park Syndrome. Lost Prophets fell for the same illness.
Also, i like the second song..

Korn and System of a Down suffers from that same syndrome as well.

What syndrome? Always having been bad mall-metal?

 

[LiftYourSkinnyFists]

When a band finds out they could become remotely popular, aka have hot topic sell their merchandise they tend to change their sound to a more appealing or how you would probably say "Mainstream" simply enough they are just making more money remember, their job title is "Musician" it's their job to produce music that more people will listen to thus the term "Generic" applies, if anything it should be called success.

 

[WrongSprite]

I prefer the second song, actually.

>.> so you prefer the generic one?

Yeah. First one sounds cluttered.

Your simply not used to the more complex and slightly worse production of the older In flames then.

Complexity isn't an instant route to sounding good.

 

[reg42]

They got Linkin Park Syndrome. Lost Prophets fell for the same illness.
Also, i like the second song..

Korn and System of a Down suffers from that same syndrome as well.

Korn is at least trying to return to it's roots with the new album.

I don't hate In Flames' new stuff, but their older stuff (like Only For the Weak) is far better than anything on Come Clarity IMO.
I have a similar opinion of Marilyn Manson. Antichrist Superstar was amazing, so was Holy Wood, but The High End of Low (while not being bad), doesn't measure up to those albums at all.

 

[Smokeydubbs]

Green Day.
Dookie was such a great album, and then what? Then they try to act all political with American Idiot, and release the most blatant musical political marketing tripe I've ever seen. You're not a political band, Green day. You're not even punk. You were a 'fun' band who tried to go serious, and you suck now.

QFT. I agree 110%.

I was going to say Korn as a bad who dried up, but they have already been mentioned. So I go to Godsmack.

Then

Now

 

[MalevolentJim]

Avenged Sevenfold's material has deteriorated a lot recently..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXSV4WRfqvg

That's when they were good.They took a more commercial route with City Of Evil,but still made the album work.

But this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HGnvqz4h5c


And Kings Of Leon have completely ruined their credibility now too,their last album was such generic tosh.

 

[WrongSprite]

I prefer the second song, actually.

>.> so you prefer the generic one?

Yeah. First one sounds cluttered.

Your simply not used to the more complex and slightly worse production of the older In flames then.

Complexity isn't an instant route to sounding good.

Fine then, what about Originality.

Nothing wrong with taking inspiration from something good.

I could record the sound of my ass being scraped on rusty poles, and it'd be original. It'd still be shit though...

 

[Smokeydubbs]

I prefer the second song, actually.

>.> so you prefer the generic one?

Yeah. First one sounds cluttered.

Your simply not used to the more complex and slightly worse production of the older In flames then.

Complexity isn't an instant route to sounding good.

Fine then, what about Originality.

Nothing wrong with taking inspiration from something good.

I could record the sound of my ass being scraped on rusty poles, and it'd be original. It'd still be shit though...

Not original, Simpsons did it. jk

 

[Chubbfish]

Kings of Leon's last album (in fairness) did have some good stuff on it, and in fact had a few songs i considered better than the singles (e.g. the crawl). that said, i agree that their previous albums were better.