What the hell happened to these bands???

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heres a good metaphor: just because you can play a few video games on super hard mode doesnt mean you want every game you play to be super hard. I have a feeling musicians are the same. Thats not an excuse for some bands, green day is one of those.

also you cant blame someone for wanting to make money, honestly you cant, especially if the band still enjoys the music they are making.
 

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CowboyfromHell666 said:
The only band I can think of is Metallica
Anything after the Black Album isn't my favorite(not saying I DON'T like any song at all off of Load or ReLoad, there were a couple. But St. Anger...)
I'm just glad Death Magnetic is closer to the old Metallica than the previous albums.
Yeah don't get me started on St. Anger. That was a TERRIBLE album. St. Shit is more like it.
 

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MelziGurl said:
People (bands) change, change is an inevitable part of life. This is why I'm not a dedicated fan of any particular band, because at some point I'm not going to like the change and I won't be as disappointed like most people are. Complaining about it isn't going to help or change things either, it just gets annoying.
This is why I like Classic Rock the most. It doesn't let me down ;) Led Zeppelin ftw ;)
 

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ethaninja said:
MelziGurl said:
People (bands) change, change is an inevitable part of life. This is why I'm not a dedicated fan of any particular band, because at some point I'm not going to like the change and I won't be as disappointed like most people are. Complaining about it isn't going to help or change things either, it just gets annoying.
This is why I like Classic Rock the most. It doesn't let me down ;) Led Zeppelin ftw ;)
Classic rock doesn't let you down? Have you ever listened to Zeppelin's last album?!?!?!?!?!?!
 

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There are some bands that change every album or so. Mayhem is a good example
[spoiler-Deathcrush][/spoiler]
[spoiler-De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas][/spoiler]
[spoiler-Wolfs Lair Abyss][/spoiler]
[spoiler-Grand Declaration of War][/spoiler]
[spoiler-Chimera][/spoiler]
[spoiler-Ordo Ad Chao][/spoiler]

GDOW is very experimental. VERY. But Mayhem have never made a bad album, or one that sounds like another (maybe Chimera)
 

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What about Deathcrush? People told me it was this massively orgasmic black metal album and it's utter shite.
 

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Cockney Weasel said:
ethaninja said:
MelziGurl said:
People (bands) change, change is an inevitable part of life. This is why I'm not a dedicated fan of any particular band, because at some point I'm not going to like the change and I won't be as disappointed like most people are. Complaining about it isn't going to help or change things either, it just gets annoying.
This is why I like Classic Rock the most. It doesn't let me down ;) Led Zeppelin ftw ;)
Classic rock doesn't let you down? Have you ever listened to Zeppelin's last album?!?!?!?!?!?!
Ever thought that maybe he likes it? Just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone is going to feel the same.
 

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Yeah, I used to think like this. That was when I cared about what kind of genre the music I listened to was. Now I just listen to what I like.
Right now I mostly listen to Gorillaz. Not long ago it was David Bowie. I still hate almost everything called pop-music, rap and whatever you can hear in clubs.
Tool is still my favorite band, and I love me some classical music.

Bottomline is, I listen to what I like, "mainstream" or not. So if a band I like suddenly changes a lot in a way I don't like... well, I'll be sad because of the fact that I won't be hearing anything new I like from that band. But I still have the old music to listen to.
 

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Cockney Weasel said:
ethaninja said:
MelziGurl said:
People (bands) change, change is an inevitable part of life. This is why I'm not a dedicated fan of any particular band, because at some point I'm not going to like the change and I won't be as disappointed like most people are. Complaining about it isn't going to help or change things either, it just gets annoying.
This is why I like Classic Rock the most. It doesn't let me down ;) Led Zeppelin ftw ;)
Classic rock doesn't let you down? Have you ever listened to Zeppelin's last album?!?!?!?!?!?!
Coda? It wasn't my favourite album but I didn't hate it.
 

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Jaqen Hghar said:
Yeah, I used to think like this. That was when I cared about what kind of genre the music I listened to was. Now I just listen to what I like.
Right now I mostly listen to Gorillaz. Not long ago it was David Bowie. I still hate almost everything called pop-music, rap and whatever you can hear in clubs.
Tool is still my favorite band, and I love me some classical music.

Bottomline is, I listen to what I like, "mainstream" or not. So if a band I like suddenly changes a lot in a way I don't like... well, I'll be sad because of the fact that I won't be hearing anything new I like from that band. But I still have the old music to listen to.
This...I'm pretty much this summed up. Regardless of the band/genre/mainstream if I like it I'll listen to it. I like to think of myself more a fan certain songs rather than the people who produced it. But I generally dislike the rap, pop and rnb. I can tolerate dance, trance and techno.
 

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Wow. So people who'll try and call you out aren't welcome to comment? So basically you just want a bunch of people to agree with you because you can't really support your arguement that you don't like these bands anymore because they changed their sound. Just because they changed it does not mean they forgot their roots, even lesser well known bands need to keep up with the times and keep their sound fresh. You need to grow up mate, as does everyone who makes threads like these.
 

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ClaptonKnophlerHendrix said:
Baby Tea said:
Green Day.
Dookie was such a great album, and then what? Then they try to act all political with American Idiot, and release the most blatant musical political marketing tripe I've ever seen. You're not a political band, Green day. You're not even punk. You were a 'fun' band who tried to go serious, and you suck now.
I happen to still enjoy them. And seeing as Dookie was only marginally less successful then American Idiot I fail to see where the mainstream market whore-dom people keep ranting about is.
Uhh, Green Day sucking has nothing to do with 'Mainstream whore-dom'.
The 'suck' comes from the drastic and sudden shift to pseudo-political tripe they started to spout out when their popularity waned. Political messages were popular at the time, and so they jumped on the band wagon. And it sucked.
Some bands carry the political message well, because it's apart of who they are (Rage, SOAD, etc.), but with Green Day: It was tacked on, and it was all about staying afloat. Did anyone actually listen to the lyrics of 'American Idiot'? Who wrote that crap? I'll tell you who! A band who used to make fun, pop-punk songs that tried to make a fun, pop-punk song about politics by throwing out buzz-words that happen to rhyme. Garbage.

But you're right, it is a fairly subjective thing. I just wanted to point out that I don't think they 'sold out'. I just think they tried to stay afloat, and it failed miserably. If some unknown band made that same song, it would have been a one hit wonder. The only reason they still are around is because of their name.
 

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Baby Tea said:
Uhh, Green Day sucking has nothing to do with 'Mainstream whore-dom'.
The 'suck' comes from the drastic and sudden shift to pseudo-political tripe they started to spout out when their popularity waned. Political messages were popular at the time, and so they jumped on the band wagon. And it sucked.
Some bands carry the political message well, because it's apart of who they are (Rage, SOAD, etc.), but with Green Day: It was tacked on, and it was all about staying afloat. Did anyone actually listen to the lyrics of 'American Idiot'? Who wrote that crap? I'll tell you who! A band who used to make fun, pop-punk songs that tried to make a fun, pop-punk song about politics by throwing out buzz-words that happen to rhyme. Garbage.
I love the line about the new media. "Wait, you guys ARE part of the new media."

But you're right, it is a fairly subjective thing. I just wanted to point out that I don't think they 'sold out'. I just think they tried to stay afloat, and it failed miserably. If some unknown band made that same song, it would have been a one hit wonder. The only reason they still are around is because of their name.
I wouldn't say they failed miserably. They made a giant pile of money, won a ton of awards, and now people 10-15 years younger than their original audiences know who the Hell they are.

That's a really really strange definition of failed miserably.
 

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Triviums first CD 'Ascendancy' was good but then they devolved into a metallica tribute band. Slipknot is my favorite band but their last CD 'All hope is gone' lacks something that the first few CD's (especially IOWA) have that makes them great.
 

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JEBWrench said:
Baby Tea said:
But you're right, it is a fairly subjective thing. I just wanted to point out that I don't think they 'sold out'. I just think they tried to stay afloat, and it failed miserably. If some unknown band made that same song, it would have been a one hit wonder. The only reason they still are around is because of their name.
I wouldn't say they failed miserably. They made a giant pile of money, won a ton of awards, and now people 10-15 years younger than their original audiences know who the Hell they are.

That's a really really strange definition of failed miserably.
Which is why I qualified it the whole paragraph with 'subjective thing'.
I would say Nickleback is a musical failure (They suck so bad), regardless of their popularity.
But, as I said, it's all subjective.
 

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I liked all that, though the second In Flames music video creeps me out. I think it's all up to your personal opinion.
 
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JEBWrench said:
Absolutely not. I have no qualms about people making as much money as they can for their work.

I don't consider "mainstream whore-dom" to be a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.
Okay, I misunderstood you.
 
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Baby Tea said:
So if political messages was what was popular at the time and "they jumped on the bandwagon" that still spells mainstream whore-dom. I personally think it was a change of direction, and wasn't the trend of political music taken up after American Idiot? I could be wrong, if I am feel free to correct me. Anyway I happen to like it, but again, different points of view and personal taste is what it all comes down to.