What the Hell is Gearbox Doing?

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BreakfastMan

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I don't think that DNF was their fault really. They inherited a 13-year old game. The only way they could have made it work was if they started from scratch, which would have taken another 3 years at least for the game to be released. With the new Brothers in Arms... I really don't know. It doesn't seem to fit the BiA series at all.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Nfritzappa said:
Hey OP, I believe you should watch that new South Park that was on last night.
I did. Good god that was depressing. At least what I hear sounds like ignorance and mediocrity, and not fart sounds.
 

Adzma

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To be fair, Gearbox merely took 3D Realms original scope for the game and actually finished it. Randy Pitchford did admit that DNF is not the Duke game he would make if it were up to him.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Nfritzappa said:
Hey OP, I believe you should watch that new South Park that was on last night.
I did. Good god that was depressing. At least what I hear sounds like ignorance and mediocrity, and not fart sounds.
So you missed the whole point of cynicism = bad?
 

Soviet Heavy

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Nfritzappa said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Nfritzappa said:
Hey OP, I believe you should watch that new South Park that was on last night.
I did. Good god that was depressing. At least what I hear sounds like ignorance and mediocrity, and not fart sounds.
So you missed the whole point of cynicism = bad?
No, I just chose not to listen. Ignorance is bliss and it allows me to remain pessimistic.
 

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I've only played the demo of DNF, I wasn't impressed, but I'll reserve judgement on it until I play the full game. I think every game deserves that at least.
Even if it disappoints like the demo did, Gearbox will still be one of the better developers out there in my eyes, and it'll take more than one sub-par release to alter that opinion. I'll still be looking forward to Colonial Marines, and (hopefully) Borderlands 2.
 

Awexsome

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scnj said:
pyrosaw said:
Don't forget they're making Halo 4! Makes me think Gearbox are the people that make sequels to FPS franchises that were suppose to end. Think about it. After 3D realms closed down, we all thought DNF was finally gone for good. Instead Gearbox said they were making it. I thought Halo franchise would stop after Reach, but now Gearbox is making it.
No they're not. 343, a new studio made up of former Bungie employees is making it. Gearbiox are making Aliens: Colonial Marines, Brothers in Arms: Furious 4 and hopefully Borderlands 2.
Actually it was only a few Ex-Bungie employees there. I think it was 4-5 or so.

But one of ex-employees among them, Frank O' Connor I think, is the studio head. But I know the majority aren't ex-Bungie employees.
 

octafish

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If you want a definition of dumbing down you need only look at Gearbox's plans for the Brothers in Arms franchise. It is more of a betrayal to the core values of a game than what Ubisoft did too Rainbow Six. I didn't like Borderlands so I have zero interest in Borderlands WW2, but I will actively be boycotting Gearbox games.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Nfritzappa said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Nfritzappa said:
Hey OP, I believe you should watch that new South Park that was on last night.
I did. Good god that was depressing. At least what I hear sounds like ignorance and mediocrity, and not fart sounds.
So you missed the whole point of cynicism = bad?
No, I just chose not to listen. Ignorance is bliss and it allows me to remain pessimistic.
I just it because of you, now I feel sad. I love Randy, it's difficult to accept that he was depressed this whole time
 

AugustFall

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I dunno about this "They received a broken product" idea.

They bought the product, hyped the hell out of it are gonna sell it even though it sucks. These guys are not shining knights.

At least 3D realms never thought the product was good enough to be put on the shelves.
 

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Gladion said:
Problem with Duke Nukem, as I see it, is, that a lot of gamers who are too young to have been around back in Duke's 3D (or even sidescrolling-) times, got hyped far too much for this game. Everybody who played the old games and STILL expected something else but a standard FPS with some dick jokes in it needs to get slapped hard.

But ya, I guess it's just that ppl who didn't know much about the Duke in the first place just expected something different than they got. I suppose the same is gonna happen to Rage.

Edit: By something different I mean "better".
I think that neatly encapsulates a lot of the bad feelings players have had towards it. 13 years or not, Duke is Duke. We shouldn't expect him to be less than he was and we shouldn't demand him to be more than he is.
 

scnj

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Awexsome said:
scnj said:
pyrosaw said:
Don't forget they're making Halo 4! Makes me think Gearbox are the people that make sequels to FPS franchises that were suppose to end. Think about it. After 3D realms closed down, we all thought DNF was finally gone for good. Instead Gearbox said they were making it. I thought Halo franchise would stop after Reach, but now Gearbox is making it.
No they're not. 343, a new studio made up of former Bungie employees is making it. Gearbiox are making Aliens: Colonial Marines, Brothers in Arms: Furious 4 and hopefully Borderlands 2.
Actually it was only a few Ex-Bungie employees there. I think it was 4-5 or so.

But one of ex-employees among them, Frank O' Connor I think, is the studio head. But I know the majority aren't ex-Bungie employees.
Heh. It's weird, I knew that but I was checking the forums between Gamespot live E3 demos, so I typed up in a hurry. I even specifically thought as I was posting it that somebody would call me out on it, so feel free to have a cookie. :p
 

Rad Party God

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What are they doing?, finishing a half-made game that wasn't their own work, that's what they are doing.

Don't blame Gearbox, blame 3D Realms.
 

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The very own developer admitted he could not reproduce a duke game...

But i played the first hours of it and enjoyed it a lot... instead of the senseless shooting, you get to interact with the world in funny ways...

a lot has changed and the pacing of the game starts a bit off, but it gets funnier, in a game filled with references and jokes, has well with some alien ass kicking...

Theres more then to shoot and cover, and shoot and cover and so on..

But if you are like TotalHalibut, you could has well complain every 5 seconds of why cant you shoot and the old duke you could shoot constantly, and get depressed when you CAN shoot but dont like the enemies.
 

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EcksTeaSea said:
Brothers in Arms looks fantastic. At least they are doing something different with the World War II genre and not making it another regular game set in that time.
So what your telling me is its great there completly ignoring the story arch thats been going on for 3 games with the last one ending with "To be Continued" The brothers in arms series was actually great and explored story elements and emotions on ww2 we hardly ever see.

The new brothers in arms i mean Ingloruis brothers 4 is a disgrace. you've obviously never played the others and your the exact new casual fan there making the game for. Grats (golf claps)
 

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Legion IV said:
EcksTeaSea said:
Brothers in Arms looks fantastic. At least they are doing something different with the World War II genre and not making it another regular game set in that time.
So what your telling me is its great there completly ignoring the story arch thats been going on for 3 games with the last one ending with "To be Continued" The brothers in arms series was actually great and explored story elements and emotions on ww2 we hardly ever see.

The new brothers in arms i mean Ingloruis brothers 4 is a disgrace. you've obviously never played the others and your the exact new casual fan there making the game for. Grats (golf claps)
Woah woah woah woah buddy calm down there.

Lets take this slow, I don't want to start our relationship off wrong.

Let me start with this part "You've obviously never played the others", you would be correct. I have never played a Brother In Arms game.

Which leads to "So what your telling me is its great there completly ignoring the story arch thats been going on for 3 games with the last one ending with "To be Continued" The brothers in arms series was actually great and explored story elements and emotions on ww2 we hardly ever see" how am I supposed to know that then without ever playing the game? Contradiction much?

"Your the exact new casual fan there making the game for. Grats (golf claps)" since when did liking action and violence make people casual?

Now that we got that cleared up lets move on. Gearbox can make any damn game they feel like making and this one appeals to me. Unlike you, I grew out of the World War II genre because theres so many games that are set in World War II that are just so boring. I have at this point probably killed more Nazis then there were in the war(forgot where I got this quote from) and its just boring. A new twist or look on it isn't a bad thing as you seem to be trying to say in your terribly written post. It appeals to me, its fresh, its new, its something else than a standard World War II game. You might not like it, doesn't mean that I don't and that other people don't either.

TL;DR? Suck it up princess and wait for them to make your sequel how you like it. Until then ignore the game.
 

scnj

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Legion IV said:
So what your telling me is its great there completly ignoring the story arch thats been going on for 3 games with the last one ending with "To be Continued"
Ignoring the numerous spelling and grammar issues here, why are you assuming that story arc is being dropped? Sure, Furious 4 is something new for the franchise, but who's to say it's not just a detour as opposed to a new direction?

Legion IV said:
The brothers in arms series was actually great and explored story elements and emotions on ww2 we hardly ever see.
Which is all well and good, but your use of 'was' implies that Furious 4 won't be great and won't explore story elements and emotions from WW2 we hardly ever see. That's a large judgement to be made from a teaser trailer. Just because they're approaching this game from a more comedic angle, it doesn't mean that camaraderie and brotherhood won't be similarly explored, it just means that the tone used will be different.

Legion IV said:
The new brothers in arms i mean Ingloruis brothers 4 is a disgrace.
Once again, judging the whole game from two minutes of pre-rendered footage. For all any of us know, it could turn out to be the best game in the franchise.

Legion IV said:
you've obviously never played the others and your the exact new casual fan there making the game for. Grats (golf claps)
I've played the previous games and I thought they were okay, but nothing about them grabbed me. Furious 4 on the other hand appeals to me. I'm hardly a casual fan either. I've appreciated Gearbox's work since I played the Half-Life expansions and I count Borderlands among my top five games.

Honestly, this post was shockingly immature. It was full of bile and ignorance. I appreciate that you have an opinion in this matter, but there was no need to attack someone who's opinion differed from yours. In future try to keep that in mind, because you have not conducted yourself in a manner befitting a civilized person.