What the hell is wrong with you, exactly?

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manythings

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More Fun To Compute said:
Toyota's mission statement is, "To sustain profitable growth by providing the best customer experience and dealer support." And by all reports that is not just bullshit to them and they think about it often. They also have a strong corporate culture of continual improvement and staff welfare. Do they always get everything right and does the share price only go up? No. Are they one of the leaders in their field? Yes.

Not sure what is going on with this ten million dollars? Someone has invested 10 million and lost it all? If that is the case then the company is probably not there any more. Not sure what sort of legal case you are going to take and if you will get any money back. If the company has poorly invested ten million dollars and the company loses value you are saying that you are going to sue? On what grounds?
Feel free to skip to the part where toyota is pretty viciously evicting all those people in company housing in japan because they got laid off and since no one has the option to own their home there are a whole lot of families unceremoniously hurled onto the street. I'll wait while you check that out...
 

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I'm on my 5th Xbox 360. And I swear it'll be the last.

In other news, when I pulled my Super Nes down from the attic, where it had spent 10 years in grueling attic-conditions, it works just fine.

It sickens me that my old-ass tech is still ticking, when every Xbox 360 I've had lasts nigh on a year before it starts pushing up the proverbial daisies.

Also, since the OP seems to have a minor rage directed at Starcraft 2, how is their plan to have 3 different games any different from any other franchise that plans their games around trilogies or makes sequels?
 

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I own a Vectrex unit from 83

I own several Atari 2600 units from 78 to 82

I own a Xbox 360

**These are not the only machines I own. I own nearly every console that has been released. I use the above three as an example

Only one of these machines have I had to replace 4 times now because of crappy workmanship. Can you guess which one it is?

I have systems that are older than a lot of people who post on these forums and I would stake my life on them powering up right now. The 360 is more a crap shoot on if its going to turn on or not. But with over $2000 in games and miscellaneous hardware I can't really afford to walk away from it now.

However I will NEVER own another MS console as long as I live. I don't care how awesome it is.

What MS has done IMO is down right criminal. But nothing will happen because of it.
 

PurpleSky

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Randomvirus said:
I'm on my 5th Xbox 360. And I swear it'll be the last.

In other news, when I pulled my Super Nes down from the attic, where it had spent 10 years in grueling attic-conditions, it works just fine.

It sickens me that my old-ass tech is still ticking, when every Xbox 360 I've had lasts nigh on a year before it starts pushing up the proverbial daisies.

Also, since the OP seems to have a minor rage directed at Starcraft 2, how is their plan to have 3 different games any different from any other franchise that plans their games around trilogies or makes sequels?
Well it is the most recent hype,it came first to my mind.Not that I don't like it, but it will be over 100 dollars if you want to play through the entire story.
 

More Fun To Compute

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manythings said:
Feel free to skip to the part where toyota is pretty viciously evicting all those people in company housing in japan because they got laid off and since no one has the option to own their home there are a whole lot of families unceremoniously hurled onto the street. I'll wait while you check that out...
Okay, maybe they don't care about staff welfare that much and actually care more about getting the most out of their employees but that doesn't contradict anything else I said.
 

manythings

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More Fun To Compute said:
Okay, maybe they don't care about staff welfare that much and actually care more about getting the most out of their employees but that doesn't contradict anything else I said.
If they are going to treat their own people like trash what are they going to treat you like?
 

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PurpleSky said:
Randomvirus said:
I'm on my 5th Xbox 360. And I swear it'll be the last.

In other news, when I pulled my Super Nes down from the attic, where it had spent 10 years in grueling attic-conditions, it works just fine.

It sickens me that my old-ass tech is still ticking, when every Xbox 360 I've had lasts nigh on a year before it starts pushing up the proverbial daisies.

Also, since the OP seems to have a minor rage directed at Starcraft 2, how is their plan to have 3 different games any different from any other franchise that plans their games around trilogies or makes sequels?
Well it is the most recent hype,it came first to my mind.Not that I don't like it, but it will be over 100 dollars if you want to play through the entire story.
So, buy that logic do your refuse to play any other game in trilogy form (or sequel form)?

Like, for examples, Knights of the Old Republic 1/2, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Halo, Splinter Cell, et al. that would be stories told over several games?

By extension, do you refuse to watch movie franchises like Star Wars, The Matrix, Lord of the Rings. Because those are all stories told through over several different installments. I mean, hell, why pay $20 bucks a DVD? That's like $60 bucks and tax (or $120 for Star Wars I-VI) to get the whole story?

I mean, if you refuse, I respect you for sticking to your guns. If not, then you're just having some uncalled-for anti-Blizzard / anti-Starcraft 2 rage.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
It's called business.
Consoles costed less back then because there was little demand for them and a low cost in manufacturing them.
Consoles cost more today because there is a high demand for them with and a high cost in manufacturing them.
Oh good, I'm not the only one who sees things clearly. People will fight to keep the capitalist lifestyle we have today yet they still ***** when people use that system.
 

More Fun To Compute

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manythings said:
If they are going to treat their own people like trash what are they going to treat you like?
Are we heading towards discussing the merits of socialism or were we talking about how much companies care about their share holders? Because, if they treat people badly who they have more legal and social responsibility towards then why would they care that much about someone who invested in their company?
 

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Just FYI - the 2600 when it was released cost $200. That was back in the freakin 70s. People need to stop complaining about cost
 

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PurpleSky said:
Well it is the most recent hype,it came first to my mind.Not that I don't like it, but it will be over 100 dollars if you want to play through the entire story.
People care too much about money. This complaint has been around as long as money has. Unfortunately, it is not often fully understood except by those who are nearly dead, or who have no money. What do they know? They've got no money, they must be stupid! Look at them in their cheap clothes and worn-out boots! They don't deserve our precious welfare! Those lazy socialists!

Think about this: Everything is being destroyed, and converted into money. People[footnote]The only reason most cheap things are cheap is because they either don't employ many people, or the people they employ are paid nearly nothing. Either way, people suffer so we can get stuff cheap. They are unable to live fulfilling lives. Is that really fair?
Oh wait. I don't care. I'm benefiting from this whole sordid affair.[/footnote] (Figuratively and, sadly, literally), morals, and the Earth itself. Eventually we'll run out of stuff to make into money. ] Better hope we're good enough at recycling and renewing energy by then, or else we'll be stuck either eating our money, or we'll need to jump back to more labour intensive farming if we don't wall want to starve. Makes you wonder what a step forward really is. Is it really more progressive to employ fewer and fewer people? What does that do to society?

But that's all so far off, why should I care? I've got to worry about making money.

lacktheknack said:
They didn't say it was right, they said that's the reason that it's happening, it can't be stopped, and there's no point complaining.
Oh please, because 'There's no other way'? The moment you stop complaining is the moment you stop caring is the moment things genuinely will not change. Things can always change. It's just difficult.
 

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Randomvirus said:
PurpleSky said:
Randomvirus said:
I'm on my 5th Xbox 360. And I swear it'll be the last.

In other news, when I pulled my Super Nes down from the attic, where it had spent 10 years in grueling attic-conditions, it works just fine.

It sickens me that my old-ass tech is still ticking, when every Xbox 360 I've had lasts nigh on a year before it starts pushing up the proverbial daisies.

Also, since the OP seems to have a minor rage directed at Starcraft 2, how is their plan to have 3 different games any different from any other franchise that plans their games around trilogies or makes sequels?
If not, then you're just having some uncalled-for anti-Blizzard / anti-Starcraft 2 rage.
This is the face I had when I read your uncalled-for

And I don't choose to, I just don't have the money for everything, and if I mention the way around it I will get modded.
 

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Games cost a shit load to make, therefore you must make a shit load of money to cover your costs. I don't mind at all, that's life.
Alcohol and tobacco on the other hand, WTF!?!?!?!
 

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Reading this thread I feel like I have an invincible Xbox 360.
Only RROD'd once for a couple seconds when I was playing during a thunderstorm. >.>

Seriously though, neither me nor my friends have had any more problems with new systems than old ones.
 

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Jfswift said:
Does seem like quality has gone downhill in the last few years and sadly no one really fights it.
From where I'm sitting in PC Land, I really feel for you console gamers. No, wait, I DON'T. Multiplatform releases and dilution of content so the tards can play too is the bane of my existence as a gamer! Screw you guys...RRODs, overpriced hardware, inaccurate motion controls...you can have 'em! I fart in your general direction!

But hey, I hear you get game patches and unfinished releases now, just like the big kids! How's that treatin' ya?
 

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PurpleSky said:
xRagnarok19 said:
How dare those bastards try to make money.
Because we all know only big corporations want more money
Demented Teddy said:
It's called business.
Consoles costed less back then because there was little demand for them and a low cost in manufacturing them.
Consoles cost more today because there is a high demand for them with and a high cost in manufacturing them.
See you people are my problem."Business,hurr," I knew this response was coming. It ain't right to me.
What if you didn't have money to buy any of these modern day consoles?What if you are scrownging money with a friend only to buy a PS3/Xbox that will RROD and you loose your hard earned money?

You think that it's ok for quality of modern day products to get lower and lower,prices go higher and higher,and game released in a period of several years?
They didn't say it was right, they said that's the reason that it's happening, it can't be stopped, and there's no point complaining.
 

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PurpleSky said:
*EDIT* People can talk all they want about capitalism and business,but if you look here in this thread everyone agrees that old hardware is way more reliable.
The reason old consoles are more reliable is because they are far less complex. I seriously doubt Microsoft intentionally created the RROD to suck more money out of you. in fact, I'm fairly sure that's illegal. If you want bigger and better games, you're going to have to put up with less reliable equipment.
 

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my c64 only broke two years ago, I got it for christmas 1988.... that's right twenty years of good service out of that bad boy!
 

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Bigfootmech said:
I don't know ONE person who has ever had a non breaking 360!
Now ya do :p Mine luckily never failed.

OT : I get what PurpleSky is saying (who DOES get +1...something, from me coz of the SG1 avatar), build quality of things aint what it used to be, prices of things still go up and people roll over and accept it. I find this to be essentially true in most cases, although I don't know if I can apply it to gaming, seeing how much the tech has really come along leaps and bounds.
Now if we was talking about cars...