It won't work, largely because they can still take the material down.TheEvilCheese said:
Besides, when has the public cared about hypocrisy?
What to do if SOPA hits.
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Besides, when has the public cared about hypocrisy?
Why do you say USA as if you speak for all of us? I am not for SOPA... I really think it inappropriate to blame an entire country for what a handfull of people decide. Target what is actually your target there buddy.Wereraccoon said:
And by the way it will never happen - too much lost money.
Kinda a dick move bro, the american people arn't even behind this bill, I've been sending emails, calling, and telling all my friends to contact their senators to stop this bill. I've been doing everything in my power and if the bill hits I'll probably lose google, yahoo, facebook, amazon, escapist, thatguywiththeglasses, and etc already because of the nazi sopa law. Don't need to lose anymore sites >.<Wereraccoon said:
Don't be sorry. As an American, I would totally understand such a reaction if SOPA did actually hit. A large portion of the time I hear something a politician supports or did, I just want to go up to them and punch them in the face. We have problems in our own country that are way more important than piracy. They should focus on that first, but unfortunately, that's not how the government wants to run things.Wereraccoon said:
Funny...
... Let's stop the influence of the SOPA bill by doing exactly what the SOPA bill does, censoring the internet for certain users..
And then you play better-than-american by just saying "Its stupid America, its their fault, so let's block them"
Perfect solution *clap clap* Salutes to you, my friend.
Peace and Harmony in the world is actively being promoted, I see.
By the way, I am from Germany (in case I sound too pro-american for us nice arrogant europeans' taste)
Let me remind you that Germany is banning stuff left and right and they are trying to do similar stuff as we speak. In fact, the idea itself has come to life in our oh-so-holy lands. We haven't been anonymous on the internet for a while now.
But who cares, right? Let's just block Americans, that will do fine!
Don't worry, if the SOPA bill passes, it won't be there for long. I doubt it will pass, but then again,... Bush got elected twice when everyone hated him.
... Let's stop the influence of the SOPA bill by doing exactly what the SOPA bill does, censoring the internet for certain users..
And then you play better-than-american by just saying "Its stupid America, its their fault, so let's block them"
Perfect solution *clap clap* Salutes to you, my friend.
Peace and Harmony in the world is actively being promoted, I see.
By the way, I am from Germany (in case I sound too pro-american for us nice arrogant europeans' taste)
Let me remind you that Germany is banning stuff left and right and they are trying to do similar stuff as we speak. In fact, the idea itself has come to life in our oh-so-holy lands. We haven't been anonymous on the internet for a while now.
But who cares, right? Let's just block Americans, that will do fine!
Don't worry, if the SOPA bill passes, it won't be there for long. I doubt it will pass, but then again,... Bush got elected twice when everyone hated him.
Yep. We're all developing contingency plans, I see. As for myself, well, there's nothing I can do, besides hope that a majority of the people who run our country are actually smart enough to stop stupid shit like this from happening. And I know that that's not going to help me. My government is terrible. They don't represent the people, they represent corporate interests. But whatever! Maybe a 1950's style how-do-you America with no internet might be a fun thing for a while. At least until our pesky 14 trillion dollar debt pops up again.
The NDAA and SOPA are being passed around the same time. I wrote a big 15-page paper about this, and there's a lot more to it but basically... There are plenty of disturbing trends, especially the NDAA and SOPA, that suggest that the US is pretty much throwing its heritage to the wind. I mean really. This cannot end well.
I'm Canadian so what I'll have to say probably doesn't count for much (until Steven Harper decides to troll the masses and to whip up SOPA's Canuck clone), but I imagine SOPA won't have too much of an effect, even in the US. Going around despite DNS blocking is quite possible, and the targeted sites that'll have some sort political and public acumen are going to be up in arms about the bill.
I just don't see Google and YouTube kowtowing to shit like this, even if I'm pretty sure Microsoft is already bent over, fully lubed and ready to take it. Either the Silicon Valley falls apart and the IT investors realize they made a derp even as the American economy goes further down the crapper - or hacktivism gets cranked up to eleven and we start hearing about various pseudo-legal ways to bypass the bill. I'm fully expecting Anonymous to be willing and able to massively troll with Washington, just to get the message across.
Unfortunately, the bill's backed by folks that don't know the first thing about computers, the infrastructure of networks or the Internet in general. They're seeing us as a bunch of tryhards, whining little Liberals who've been raised in a system of systematic and accepted theft. Or something like that. So, well, they're feeling all righteous and shit.
Any way the wind's gonna blow, things are going to change. That much is obvious. The best case is the entertainment majors realizing they have no sway over the Internet no matter how hard they try, while the worst involves the US virtual shores turning into some sort of policed state. Then they'll keep saying they're not like China, even if they block sites arbitrarily judged as infringing SOPA.
Then, of course, the Deep Web becomes more crowded, or private networks begin to emerge on US soil.
I just don't see Google and YouTube kowtowing to shit like this, even if I'm pretty sure Microsoft is already bent over, fully lubed and ready to take it. Either the Silicon Valley falls apart and the IT investors realize they made a derp even as the American economy goes further down the crapper - or hacktivism gets cranked up to eleven and we start hearing about various pseudo-legal ways to bypass the bill. I'm fully expecting Anonymous to be willing and able to massively troll with Washington, just to get the message across.
Unfortunately, the bill's backed by folks that don't know the first thing about computers, the infrastructure of networks or the Internet in general. They're seeing us as a bunch of tryhards, whining little Liberals who've been raised in a system of systematic and accepted theft. Or something like that. So, well, they're feeling all righteous and shit.
Any way the wind's gonna blow, things are going to change. That much is obvious. The best case is the entertainment majors realizing they have no sway over the Internet no matter how hard they try, while the worst involves the US virtual shores turning into some sort of policed state. Then they'll keep saying they're not like China, even if they block sites arbitrarily judged as infringing SOPA.
Then, of course, the Deep Web becomes more crowded, or private networks begin to emerge on US soil.
Not keen on this SOPA thing at all, i don't pirate but i do like seeing the internet take the respective piss out of everything. Satire is an important part of life, and satire for all its debauchery can be good for a product. I played wow for two years because of the south park episode that mocked it mercilessly.
Also not all that keen on movie/game/book websites turning into complete lick arses so they don't get take down for 'copyright' infringements because of a bad review.
Anything that limits freedom of information be it pulp or something important im generally not all that keen on at all at all and im surprised that its the Americans of all people who are pushing this forward. Time to get a bit more politically active lads...
Stopping piracy fair enough, but this legislation seems to be cutting off its nose to spite its face. Its like draining the sea to stop the Somalian pirates and then wondering why the other ships aren't working.
Also not all that keen on movie/game/book websites turning into complete lick arses so they don't get take down for 'copyright' infringements because of a bad review.
Anything that limits freedom of information be it pulp or something important im generally not all that keen on at all at all and im surprised that its the Americans of all people who are pushing this forward. Time to get a bit more politically active lads...
Stopping piracy fair enough, but this legislation seems to be cutting off its nose to spite its face. Its like draining the sea to stop the Somalian pirates and then wondering why the other ships aren't working.
Good link, i'll have to use that.Fayathon said:
Personally, i use the humble proxy: [link]https://proxify.com/[/link]
with google and facebook etc, this thing is guaranteed to go to the supreme court and hopefully the first ammendment will squash this nasty little bit of legislation.Devil said:
Don't know if to be exited or scared.
People probably know all of the bad points.. But on the plus side, it could be a potential goldmine for us Europeans, especially Denmark, The Netherlands, Norway and Sweden, as we already have enormous server-farms and a long history for refusing to censor anything.
People probably know all of the bad points.. But on the plus side, it could be a potential goldmine for us Europeans, especially Denmark, The Netherlands, Norway and Sweden, as we already have enormous server-farms and a long history for refusing to censor anything.
Surely there will be some way to get around it It's a computer it can do ANYTHING.
[*cough Anonymous *cough* do something drastic *cough*]?
[*cough Anonymous *cough* do something drastic *cough*]?
