Doclector said:We start the...erm...Sopacloaks, and rebel against the evil empire. True, thousands of angered nerds wearing blue curtains, weilding foam swords, and screaming "fu ro dah" at a load of bewildered rubber bullet happy police officers may not be that effective, but it might send a message, or at the very least, be a very interesting afternoon.
Why would you laugh? Why do foreigners think that they would be immune to this bullshit?NightmareLuna said:I would laugh at you americans a bit more... Then I would get on with my life.
It is not, that is the whole point in it.Double A said:SOPA tax? Please tell me how charging the victims money makes the situation any better.
Think of it this way, if SOPA passes then a lot of websites would flee to another part of the North American Backbone and that will be Canada. We might have only half as much infrastructure but it will be cheaper and a lot less restrictive. The sudden move would also boost interest in the electronic community and kick start economical growth in Canada.Zeckt said:Thanks America for ruining the economy here in Canada and now for ruining the internet too. At least we recovered better. Hey, if you think I'm mad at the states just think about all those third world countries that are charged 25-40% of their wages by corporate America just for fresh water think of you.
Ironic there's a thread about a civil war in America. You guys should go through with it, not against the government though but against the corporations that have you dancing on strings and have 99% of your money.
So now I'm liable for all the apathetic fuckwads in this country, considering I have to pay the Lazy Tax too? I thought blanket proposals that don't get rid of the problem were the enemy here. Hell, I can't even vote till I turn 18 (which is the 26th of this month, but still, not my fault the old people in office are there).Jinx_Dragon said:It is not, that is the whole point in it.Double A said:SOPA tax? Please tell me how charging the victims money makes the situation any better.
We have no ability or right to force another government to throw out laws they do not agree with but the people being affected by their own government can. So, on this grounds, it is alright for us to use what little power we do have to show our distaste at these people losing control of their own government. The only thing we can do is make a fee, as the owners of the site we do have the right to charge for our services.
The victims your talking about are the ones who can bring about change, so are they really powerless as you believe?
Honestly, I don't think SOPA has a chance in hell of passing now. Should it manage to do so it will be the apathy in the masses that allowed it to succeed in taking away even more of their rights. The only way to fight this apathy is to force them to care about something, and the only thing they always care about is their own value. Force them to realize it was cheaper, and not just easier, pre-SOPA and they will rise up like the angry beast that masses always are.
you missed a bit there saysing $$$revenue. all that 'geeky shit' is what in effect pays for the internet. or large parts of it, by being popular, and thus getting commercials, commercial people pay the geeky shit hosters, who pay server parks, who thus have more busyness, who can now have economies of scale, which lowers the prices, which makes mailservers offer better quality for the same amount of spam/advertisement. and this is only the first few effects i can think of XDPandaman1911 said:But that' the thing, it's just the Internet. The stuff that's "still important" (read: able to be used by companies and business, such as email, file servers, etc) will still be intact. But all that nerdy geeky shit that doesn't matter such as games and videos and whatever will be the only things affected, and lawmakers just really don't seem to care about that.Double A said:Isn't that kind of one of the main points of the Internet, you can watch or download whatever you want, and reasonably fast to boot?Pandaman1911 said:A situation like that? Only one thing TO do- give up. "It's just the Internet", they'll say. "Stop being such a nerd and get a life", they'll say. "Maybe you'll finally get some time outside", and so on. It's pretty damn hard to seem respectable and sincere when you're bitching about how you can't watch/download what you want on the Internet.
HAH! Nice. Its true, I bet many people and companies supporting SOPA will not see how bad it is for them until its actually active, and maybe thats the big one, many have their heads so far up their asses that they can't notice how this might hurt them. nice avatar btwleet_x1337 said:And yeah, it would suck that a lot of websites I use pretty much every day will be blocked in the US, killing their revenue streams, but as soon as it affects the SOPA-supporting companies or even the government...all the companies and politicians will look up and shout, "Save us!" and we'll look down and whisper, "No."
(I wonder how many more things can be misquoted to apply to the situation?)
And do you HONESTLY think that anyone in any of the branches of government has put even a single scrap of thought into this bill? They're just showing where their true allegiances lie and are bending over to the corporations. Which was bound to happen at some point, I suppose. I just wish that it wasn't now.thahat said:you missed a bit there saysing $$$revenue. all that 'geeky shit' is what in effect pays for the internet. or large parts of it, by being popular, and thus getting commercials, commercial people pay the geeky shit hosters, who pay server parks, who thus have more busyness, who can now have economies of scale, which lowers the prices, which makes mailservers offer better quality for the same amount of spam/advertisement. and this is only the first few effects i can think of XDPandaman1911 said:But that' the thing, it's just the Internet. The stuff that's "still important" (read: able to be used by companies and business, such as email, file servers, etc) will still be intact. But all that nerdy geeky shit that doesn't matter such as games and videos and whatever will be the only things affected, and lawmakers just really don't seem to care about that.Double A said:Isn't that kind of one of the main points of the Internet, you can watch or download whatever you want, and reasonably fast to boot?Pandaman1911 said:A situation like that? Only one thing TO do- give up. "It's just the Internet", they'll say. "Stop being such a nerd and get a life", they'll say. "Maybe you'll finally get some time outside", and so on. It's pretty damn hard to seem respectable and sincere when you're bitching about how you can't watch/download what you want on the Internet.
This sounds almost a little too appealing. Any risks from downloading this?Fayathon said:And this is what tor [https://www.torproject.org/] is for.