They are not nearly competent enough to even consider that idea. This movie is going to be exactly what it looks like: a gigantic clusterfuck of epic proportions as they try to cram four movies worth of characters and ideas into one movie and fuck it all up.Saltyk said:
What We Don't Know About Wonder Woman in Batman vs. Superman
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I don't know whats changed in the New 52 version of WW, but the Thor movies prove that audiences do have some tolerance for 'Comics are Weird'ness. And ancient greek super warriors are popular as ever.
I think a WW solo movie could work. I mean, the act one pitch is; an air force audience insert dude crashes on a magical island inhabited by hot warrior babes.... That sells itself.
I just wish they had used Ryan Reynolds to make a goofy Flash movie instead of that Green Lantern wreck. Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman and Flash would be a great justice league crew.
But my crazy fan theory is that 'Superman vs Batman' is going to turn out to be 'The Justice League'.
I think a WW solo movie could work. I mean, the act one pitch is; an air force audience insert dude crashes on a magical island inhabited by hot warrior babes.... That sells itself.
I just wish they had used Ryan Reynolds to make a goofy Flash movie instead of that Green Lantern wreck. Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman and Flash would be a great justice league crew.
But my crazy fan theory is that 'Superman vs Batman' is going to turn out to be 'The Justice League'.
I must say I would have very much preferred a solo movie as well. Again I think you're also right to note that Ryan Reynolds talents were wasted in that train-wreck called The Green Lantern. My god would he have been a better Flash than anything else.JayDig said:
OT: In regards to the origins, is it possible that the Amazons are descended from the Kryptonian survivor (Kara Zor-El aka Supergirl) 20,000 years ago? I vaguely remember some digital comic-wha-wha about an ancient Supergirl on a primitive Earth. Maybe she's the one who started the Amazonian traditions and ergo Wonder Woman is a distant relative and Kryptonian-Human hybrid.
Same reason DC made Amanda Waller thin in New 52 despite all her previous incarnations showing her as heavyset and why they think Wonder Woman is too complicated to give her own movie: They think only one body type can exist.Elijah Newton said:
Women have to be thin and busty without too much muscle or they'll look too masculine and it'll turn away the 14-year-old boys they think are the only audience that see their movies or read their comics.
Is it really that complicated to just say "Her mother fashioned her from clay made from the magical soil of Themiscyra and she was given life and powers from the Greek pantheon"? I mean her new origin is Wonder-Girl's origin. They just transplanted it to Diana.Silverspetz said:
the stills are in the article. how would they draw people into clicking on the article.Tumedus said:
What your saying would only make sense if they were on the title image. Which was a pretty standard wonder woman picture.
Why is everyone calling this Batman vs Superman? Has the film been named, did I miss that?
I say give the girl a chance, we have seen actors surprise with a lot of roles over the years, like Heath Ledger as the Joker for example. He was just a romantic comedy guy before that really. True, I think DC are being idiots, it seems like they're throwing this together in a strange way, but who knows, it could work.
I say give the girl a chance, we have seen actors surprise with a lot of roles over the years, like Heath Ledger as the Joker for example. He was just a romantic comedy guy before that really. True, I think DC are being idiots, it seems like they're throwing this together in a strange way, but who knows, it could work.
That makes a lot of sense, I seriously hope that's what they're going for.Sleekit said:
This woman is incredibly hot!
Although...she seems a bit skinny to play Wonder Woman no? I thought Wonder Woman was meant to be a large, athletic woman with some muscles. This woman has a model's build not an athletes build. Wonder Woman should have thicker thighs and broader shoulders.
I'm not asking for some body-builder chick with abs cos that's gross. Just someone with a bit more meat on her bones.
Although...she seems a bit skinny to play Wonder Woman no? I thought Wonder Woman was meant to be a large, athletic woman with some muscles. This woman has a model's build not an athletes build. Wonder Woman should have thicker thighs and broader shoulders.
I'm not asking for some body-builder chick with abs cos that's gross. Just someone with a bit more meat on her bones.
Although rather formulaic, that could actually work and makes sense contextually. Wouldn't mind seeing that... though with the flash already cast in Arrow, i don't know yet if that guy has the acting chops to pull off a performance in a feature film. Time will tell on that one.Sleekit said:i have heard mention that they have also revealed The Flash will be being cast
with that and the inclusion of Wonder Woman my take on this is that Man of Steel takes place in a universe in which The Justice League already exists and he's a late (and somewhat ignorant) arrival to the party so to speak.
if that's the case the seemingly uncaring destruction of Metropolis and the killing of his enemy as shown in Man of Steel that did not sit well with many fans may well have been entirely deliberate...
:O
the basic plot of the new film could well be akin to:
the "proto" Justice League turns up in the wake of the last films events.
Superman is largely ignorant of them because "secrecy","coddling by the Kents" and/or "he's a country boy" and/or his time "avoiding the world" in the first movie.
"hey, you really should have kept a lid on some of that shit dude"
"why should i listen to you ?"
"because...I'm The Goddamn Batman!" <---i half expect this line to actually be said on screen btw
"..and if you're not prepared to you're a threat to all we hold dear"
"i have enough daddy issues and you're not the boss of me"
queue growling, the investigation of and potential deployment of anti-superman "stuff"(the introduction of which may become important in later movies) and limited inter-superhero *biff* & *pow* etc
...meanwhile the new baddy "arises"...
"TIME OUT...hey guys...maybe we should really go fight this new baddy together hmm ?.." <-- a potential Wonder Woman line in the classic "too much testosterone in the room" tradition ?
"...ok...but don't think this means we are buddies"
*biff* *witty banter* *bonding* *pow* baddy defeated etc
"hey, maybe you guys are alright/right..."
Superman maybe makes some speech about what he's going to be and effectively commits to being "classic" "lawful good" Superman and a member of The Justice League.
*group hug*
Wonder Woman and Superman potentially have a little bit of "a thing" for each other by the end of the movie thus aiding Superman come to terms with his "i'm a lonely super being, no one really understands me" super-emo-ness
curtains...
in essence what you'd have is a classic Justice League line-up being formed due to conflict between an older and highly moralistic Batman and a younger "immature" "unbound" and potentially "dangerous" Superman.
if they pull it off...the introduction of the whole thing in one movie...and it will be a huge movie...they basically leapfrog all of The Avengers "stage 1" shenanigans and could go to straight into something akin to Marvels "stage 2".
its a high risk play tho and they are relying on the introduction of "iconic" characters with little exposition...but then The Avengers itself was written in that manner...seeing "stage 1" films was actually irrelevant to watching and enjoying The Avengers and entirely deliberately so...and i think that's DCs catchup angle here...
I would have said halfway through season 1 of arrow that the actor didn't have the talent to pull off a feature film Arrow character, but he is slowly proving me wrong, so who knows?
Would love to see Malcolm Merlyn show up in a feature film though, that guy is fantastic.
It's not that ms. Gadot couldn't get toned, she's clearly not adverse to training and exercise. The problem is that she's a model. Is she willing to pretty much ruin her modelling career for the part? She'd have to keep the muscle and extra weight for years if the movie is successful.
That's why I think it's a safe bet we'll get twiggy WW.
PS. I hope they sent her to a voice coach soon, it worked for her role in FF but it's hard to sell an Israeli accent as Amazonian I think.
That's why I think it's a safe bet we'll get twiggy WW.
PS. I hope they sent her to a voice coach soon, it worked for her role in FF but it's hard to sell an Israeli accent as Amazonian I think.
I still think that the Greek style armour should be her standard outfit, the Wonder Woman outfit makes little sense as an amazonian attire, and looks completely dated as it's basically not changed from when she was created, the trousers looked awful, but I'm hoping one day she'll stick to the armour.Gabanuka said:
I present 'Wonder Woman', as designed by Stjepan Sejic; a well regarded comic artist hailing from Croatia. This right here; this is your movie design.
I recall the movie; The Mummy Returns, featuring Dwayne Johnson as the Scorpion King. Apparently the character tested well so they gave him an origin movie, everyone remembers what a debacle that was. I wonder if Jim Sterling will, at some point, try to defend it?Sniper Team 4 said:
Since Nolan wrapped up Batman in a neat little package, more than a few people will ask "Wait, Batman retired at the end of the last one, who's this guy?"
If I were a betting man, I'd wager Batman and Wonder Woman get shoe-horned origin stories.
I think they're making a big mistake by not making a Wonder Woman feature. She's probably more popular than Superman in current popular (but not comic culture) where everyone is sick of all the Superman movies sucking. Seriously, the last one was just obviously "we're making a new Batman movie starring Superman".
If Wonder Woman does have a prominent role, I think the only thing that scares me about Wonder Woman being in this movie, is that if it fails you know people are going to point fingers at Wonder Woman for the failure. They'll say a bunch of bull crap ranging from the simple idea she's female to the idea she took up too much time for writers and filmmakers, they weren't allowed their creative freedoms and blah blah blah.
And then the subject of Wonder Woman having a movie/tv show will disappear again for several decades.
I feel like there's a hell of a lot riding on this if they do give her a major role, and I have my fingers crossed so hard that it's done right.
And then the subject of Wonder Woman having a movie/tv show will disappear again for several decades.
I feel like there's a hell of a lot riding on this if they do give her a major role, and I have my fingers crossed so hard that it's done right.
