What will the 8th Generation bring to the table?
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this is so depressing. But will be completely and totally true... Oh, and remember that the tablet will be completely obsolete in less than three years.Mutilator7 said:
Man I hope sony can bring something to the table, but unfortunately I'm beginning to doubt them.
Edit: Now that I think about it though, our next real evolution will be the jump to cloud gaming/set-top box gaming. Luckily Sony will be able to produce those easily, as they're already in the market. Or we may make the switch to tablet gaming, where the tablet is both mobile and tv capable.
By the looks of it, the new generation of consoles will bring little to nothing to the table. What puzzles me is how, for example Xbox players, seems perfectly content knowing that they'll pay for an overpriced box being shipped with an outdated Radeon HD6670 (that would be the Xbox 720).
And yet, console players are still defending their consoles with religion conviction, and just pointing out an obvious difference in performance is often met with hatred. Like literally hatred.
And yet, console players are still defending their consoles with religion conviction, and just pointing out an obvious difference in performance is often met with hatred. Like literally hatred.
I doubt it will bring anything new. Just nicer graphics. The rest depends on the companies, eg new Elder scrolls with have nicer graphics with a huge world. Next COD game will be a corridor shooter with nicer graphics.I do hope for an open world WW2 game, but i doubt it.
Personally, I am also leaning towards the naysayer camp.
I see games as a whole either staying the same price or going up in price to "justify" the cost of making on a new console. The downside is that the quality isnt going to reflect these increased costs (baring a few high quality titles).
The "war on used games" is going to cripple one of the consoles (I am putting money on xbox) as many people use the used game market as entry into series and cannot always afford to purchase new.
I also see the push of "motion control" becoming a bit more rediculous, but ultimately taking a back seat, as they cannot seem to produce very many games which people actually want to play on the Kinect/move
I see games as a whole either staying the same price or going up in price to "justify" the cost of making on a new console. The downside is that the quality isnt going to reflect these increased costs (baring a few high quality titles).
The "war on used games" is going to cripple one of the consoles (I am putting money on xbox) as many people use the used game market as entry into series and cannot always afford to purchase new.
I also see the push of "motion control" becoming a bit more rediculous, but ultimately taking a back seat, as they cannot seem to produce very many games which people actually want to play on the Kinect/move
Personally, I'd just like to see a few more USB ports. The 360 had like 4 or something, but we need more. Get a keyboard and a charge cable in there and you can't get as many players.
But that's usually the gist of new generations. Its always amusing to hear the master race crying over the consoles' inferior grafix holding the industry back. I mean, the US Air Force strung a bunch of PCs together when they wanted an on-the-cheap supercomputer, right?
Console game devs are PC gamers? *rimshot*Soviet Heavy said:
But that's usually the gist of new generations. Its always amusing to hear the master race crying over the consoles' inferior grafix holding the industry back. I mean, the US Air Force strung a bunch of PCs together when they wanted an on-the-cheap supercomputer, right?
Dude, we just got the 5th generation, why are you skipping...
... Wait, consoles? Oooh. My bad.
I don't know. Better graphics at first, along with the damaging graphics race renewal, hopefully followed by a golden age of amazing games once everything has fallen into place.
... Wait, consoles? Oooh. My bad.
I don't know. Better graphics at first, along with the damaging graphics race renewal, hopefully followed by a golden age of amazing games once everything has fallen into place.
This is a flawed analogy as it costs less and takes less effort for McDonalds to make a hamburger, but making a Madden using improved graphics and physics engines is still expensive though the intellectual work put into it is far less. So there you have it. This is also the reason Wii games are (often) cheaper than PS3 and Xbox games. Since the Wii can't compete with Xbox 360 in graphics and processing power the console simply can't handle the top notch.Tanis said:
I am guessing you don't know very much about programming based on this analogy. Do you want to try again?
Stole my joke you bastard!Shanicus said:
As for my honest opinion. I dunno. I would say actual 3D games for 3D televisions. I've never seen one of these TV's but from everything I've heard about them they're just as big a BS gimmick as the motion controls for games, so it's likely that actual 3D games would just be a big flop of a gimmick as well. Other than just stuffing better hardware into consoles, I really don't see how you can improve upon them from what we've already got (HD graphics, fully scaled 3D worlds to play in, etc).
Don't forget DRM. Lots and lots of DRM.Mutilator7 said:
And probably spyware. I bet they'd love to watch you play.
Looking at some of the ports we've got that's quite clearly the case.Zachary Amaranth said:
OK, to be serious it does take less to program for a PC because you program ON a PC, did you know that? The kits they got to work with are better developed because there aren't any major changes in the system they're working on. Most games are made for Windows though Mac and Ubuntu are getting more and more with time.
The whole process with testing is also easier when programming for PC since the programming is done on the platform it's going to be tested for.
So in short. It's easier to program for PC. Don't believe me, compare the market for indie titles on PC and console.
Oh! One big thing I forgot to mention is that the 7th generation brought quality voice acting to the table. Yeah, there were a couple games in previous generations with good acting, but the 7th generation is the first where the majority of games have from good to great voice acting quality. I think the 8th generation will have an even higher standard of acting quality, including full performance capture like L.A. Noire.
The only thing I want to see in the next set of consoles (other than basic hardware upgrades and more RAM) is built in screen and video capture.
And to comment on the first thing, complex AI and realistic physics are, simply put, balls hard.
And to comment on the first thing, complex AI and realistic physics are, simply put, balls hard.
Let's think of it this way:
PC gamers are assholes
Console gamers are pussies
Companies are dicks
Pussies are happy just playin games and having fun and the Dicks just want to fuck us over all the time without thinking it through. But the Assholes just want to shit all over our fun.
So the Pussies get mad at the dicks sometimes because, pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes. And if they didn't, we'd get our fun and games all covered in elitism.
PC gamers are assholes
Console gamers are pussies
Companies are dicks
Pussies are happy just playin games and having fun and the Dicks just want to fuck us over all the time without thinking it through. But the Assholes just want to shit all over our fun.
So the Pussies get mad at the dicks sometimes because, pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes. And if they didn't, we'd get our fun and games all covered in elitism.
My thoughts (and hopes) exactly. I'm just guessing, but I get the impression that people who really, really care about graphics are probably in the minority by now. Gamers the world over seem to be largely put off by the back seat gameplay has taken to "ooh pretty". So, hopefully developers will take notice and react accordingly.XMark said:
On the other hand... When the newest version of Call of Duty can make over 1 billion dollars within 16 days of launch... more than even the best of movies can claim... maybe the public at large doesn't give a shit about gameplay. Maybe they just want to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a few new maps, guns, slightly upgraded graphics, and a contrived 2 hour long single player campaign...
Hm. I hope my first paragraph is the correct one
That aside, I think consoles will do the following:
- More emphasis on online sales, less emphasis on physical media.
- All the DRM fun associated with that.
- 1080p across the board.
- Ideally, consoles will become better at doing the media centre thing.
What I'd also like to see:
- Some truly usable browsers. The only thing preventing a console from being a useful internet device is the shitty browsers on current consoles. I'd totally use this all the time if they were actually good.
- A bit of an "app store" for consoles. Maybe an app that can allow me to play .mkv videos...? Wishful thinking, I know.
And Nintendo didn't jack the licensing fees with the other next gen consoles, but you saw fit to ignore that when saying why the price was lower, so I'm not sure why I should factor in this.Yopaz said:
And Nintendo has also stated that they consider HD graphics over rated because it boosts the costs which they gave as a reason why they wanted to make something more than just a stronger version than the Wii which does in fact indicate that Wii games are cheaper. This comes from someone who sits with the budget of a huge video game company and compares their budget with other video game companies. However I am sure you have more knowledge than someone who does this for a living.Zachary Amaranth said:
Edit: Also the part of my post that you quoted has nothing to do with Nintendo so I can't really see a context with what you're actually arguing against and the content of your post.
