Not even gonna risk it. We humans go to far some times. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Here is me just liking a nice thigh and butt.Spot1990 said:
What Woman think of Man that are nice to everyone.
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Yes its all those Godzilla V Mothra battles.Spot1990 said:
Its just some macho bullishit to live up to the classic bad boy nonsense. It has no meaning beyond that.Mister K said:
Nah there's nothing wrong with a man who's nice to everyone, I certainly don't think that about them.
I think it really depends on just how he's being nice to everyone.
Is he being kind, polite, and courteous to everyone? Well, that's certainly not a bad thing and fail to see how a woman would be put off by that since, as far as I'm concerned, that's just basic decency.
Is he a pushover who demonstrates no ability to make his own decisions, displays no sense of independence, and/or lets people walk all over him? I obviously can't speak for other women but I would find this an unattractive quality to have.
Then there's the whole "nice guy" thing but we've been down that road so many times I really don't want to go down it again.
As others have said, taking advice from entertainment pieces (particularly manga) on the mindset of any one group is generally not a good idea.
Is he being kind, polite, and courteous to everyone? Well, that's certainly not a bad thing and fail to see how a woman would be put off by that since, as far as I'm concerned, that's just basic decency.
Is he a pushover who demonstrates no ability to make his own decisions, displays no sense of independence, and/or lets people walk all over him? I obviously can't speak for other women but I would find this an unattractive quality to have.
Then there's the whole "nice guy" thing but we've been down that road so many times I really don't want to go down it again.
As others have said, taking advice from entertainment pieces (particularly manga) on the mindset of any one group is generally not a good idea.
Last I checked, men don't respect women who spread their legs for everyone.Mister K said:
So, does this mean a man who is nice to everyone is going to get dismissed as an undesirable, low-achieving people-pleaser?
Guess that makes me a whore...
Woman here and that's bollocks. For one simple reason: women are not a hive mind. Exciting news!
We all have some preference. Projecting one preference onto 3.5 billion people on this planet is just plain stupid. Personally, yes, I think it's important for men (and anyone) to be nice to others. Not just to me, but to others too. It's not exactly charming to be with an asshole who treats other people like shit and I wouldn't be attracted if he was nice to me, but shitty to others. Some may disagree. Neither of us is wrong.
These "wisdoms" that do this kind of thing are really annoying. But as many people already said, I doubt this manga is some sort of an advice piece so no need to take that sentence as gospel.
We all have some preference. Projecting one preference onto 3.5 billion people on this planet is just plain stupid. Personally, yes, I think it's important for men (and anyone) to be nice to others. Not just to me, but to others too. It's not exactly charming to be with an asshole who treats other people like shit and I wouldn't be attracted if he was nice to me, but shitty to others. Some may disagree. Neither of us is wrong.
These "wisdoms" that do this kind of thing are really annoying. But as many people already said, I doubt this manga is some sort of an advice piece so no need to take that sentence as gospel.
Huh. I have literally never come across that idea before.
Sounds absurd.
Unless you're talking jealousy, where some can freak out if you so much as speak to another person...
But that isn't a male/female thing. Anyone can be that jealous...
Weird.
Sounds absurd.
Unless you're talking jealousy, where some can freak out if you so much as speak to another person...
But that isn't a male/female thing. Anyone can be that jealous...
Weird.
My guess is, the statement isn't saying the two are exactly the same. It sounds like the statement is saying to treat your significant other like she's special. I'm no expert in love, but I imagine feeling like your partner's special someone is important for the relationship, so if a guy treats everyone including her with the exact same amount of kindness, she won't feel like she's special to him.
He should still be nice to everyone, just nicer to her.
He should still be nice to everyone, just nicer to her.
In general, it's a load of bollocks. Obviously there will be some exceptions, if you have a crazy theory there's bound to be /someone/ who believes it with all their heart, but for the most part no, not at all. Nice people are nice, and I'd much rather hang around with a bunch of people who are nice than a bunch of people who are assholes and cut themselves on how edgy they are.
There does, however, need to be a distinction made between people who are genuinely nice people (good!) and people who pretend to be nice to get what they want and then get angry when everything doesn't go their way all the time (bad!). Being passive aggressive and clingy isn't actually being nice, it's just kinda creepy and slimy. The whole 'nice guys finish last' idea is mostly pushed by the second group of people, trying to justify why nobody actually likes having them around.
As other people have said, you should never look to entertainment to get a legitimate picture of how actual people think or behave.
There does, however, need to be a distinction made between people who are genuinely nice people (good!) and people who pretend to be nice to get what they want and then get angry when everything doesn't go their way all the time (bad!). Being passive aggressive and clingy isn't actually being nice, it's just kinda creepy and slimy. The whole 'nice guys finish last' idea is mostly pushed by the second group of people, trying to justify why nobody actually likes having them around.
As other people have said, you should never look to entertainment to get a legitimate picture of how actual people think or behave.
I guess it's saying that 'nice guys' basically roll over and let people use them (because the theory is that they're not really nice, they're just wimps and doormats), and it's equivalent to a slutty woman who lets guys 'use' her. In other words, they're both in their situation due to a lack of confidence and belief in themselves, and they let others use them.
But as someone already mentioned, taking relationship advice or gender relations theories from a Manga would be like watching "Kung Fu Panda" to learn how to fight.
But as someone already mentioned, taking relationship advice or gender relations theories from a Manga would be like watching "Kung Fu Panda" to learn how to fight.
MateMister K said:
You realise that this isn't coming from a real woman right? Its coming from a Japanese man who writes comics. (She's not real) (she's the projected view of the writer).
Women are all different just like men are. They all like and want different things.
I have a female friend who explained to me once that she was attracted to assholes. I guess it was along the lines of she thought she'd conquered them if they slept with her or whatever. Showed them they shouldn't be so cocky or she would screw them. What a punishment eh? Anyway I think for this particular girl it was an ego thing. She likes the idea that she can get a guy who is a jerk to everyone else to be nice to her. Confidence boost and all that. So I guess some women are like that. But it's probably a minority.
I don't think any woman grudges a man for being nice to people. She maybe just feels more special if he is only nice to her. I dunno. I don't care. This is one example and there are 3.5 billion women out there they all think differently.
Now to end my post, I'd like to put it out there that a lot of self proclaimed nice guys are whiny and lacking in confidence. It's easy to think another guy is an asshole if he's banging the girl you like but truth is he's probably a cool guy or she wouldn't be with him. Peace out.
I don't think any woman grudges a man for being nice to people. She maybe just feels more special if he is only nice to her. I dunno. I don't care. This is one example and there are 3.5 billion women out there they all think differently.
Now to end my post, I'd like to put it out there that a lot of self proclaimed nice guys are whiny and lacking in confidence. It's easy to think another guy is an asshole if he's banging the girl you like but truth is he's probably a cool guy or she wouldn't be with him. Peace out.
Hey, props to her for being honest. I had a girl in a class I was in who flat said "I like guys who have lots of tattoos, a criminal record, and drive a motorcycle with no helmet on and possibly no insurance". No issue with that, as long as someone is honest about who they find hot, more power to them.miketehmage said:
Heterosexual Male here
I think your putting way too much weight on one bit of dialogue as many have pointed out it's a manga and written by one person, now I'm sure some women are like that but it's by no means anywhere close to all of them. You might as well use team fortress 2 as a crash course in gun safety
I'm not even going to comment on the whole "friend-zone" thing since frankly that topic can be a nasty one and well not the point of the OT
I think your putting way too much weight on one bit of dialogue as many have pointed out it's a manga and written by one person, now I'm sure some women are like that but it's by no means anywhere close to all of them. You might as well use team fortress 2 as a crash course in gun safety
I'm not even going to comment on the whole "friend-zone" thing since frankly that topic can be a nasty one and well not the point of the OT
Every manga story lives in a world of self created morality which is usually just black and white with no gray. Meaning that if you're the "nice guy" you're at the extreme and let everyone push you around. While at the other end as the "bad guy" you break all the rules and do the extreme worse things imaginable.
Our world is more complicated then any manga, People are complex and being that they are complex creatures. I highly suggest you look elsewhere to get inspiration of what men and women actually think.
Our world is more complicated then any manga, People are complex and being that they are complex creatures. I highly suggest you look elsewhere to get inspiration of what men and women actually think.