Keep in mind that in the Dead or Alive universe Zack bought his private island in the end of DoA3 which allowed for DoAX which he did under the pretense of it being the next island that the tournament will be held. The island was destroyed but he made money in DoA 4 and either repaired the island or bought a new one.slo said:I kind of re-read the thread and found that it absolutely does not answer the question, why cannot Blizzard do an Overwatch Beach spin-off, where everyone's running around in hula skirts blasting each other with super soakers.
"Mythical pillow-fucker"? Might just be me, but that sounds glorious. I imagine an old monk in a mountain cave high above the clouds, surrounded by thousand of wankpillows and deeply complementing philosophical quandaries like "What is Waifu? What leads to Moe? How large can a Zettai Ryouki be? Which of my pillows shall I fuck next?" And there will be lone otakus pilgering up the mountain with their favorite pillow in hand... OK, definitly just me. Still hilarious.Einspanner said:I'm going to slow-walk you through this, on the basis that it's the quickest way to help you understand this, and end your flow of baseless accusations.slo said:Yes. But since you have never met such people you have no way of knowing that this is not a case of circular logic, have you?Einspanner said:That may be what you assume and believe, but it isn't what I actually said. You're clear on that at least, right?
I've met many people with "waifus" and massive VN collections, and they are... say it with me now... "Frustrated and lonely". What I'm yet to meet is the mythical pillow-fucker who isn't both of those things.
Johnny Novgorod said:Yet they sell splendidly in Japan. Wonder why.Lunar Templar said:Because they are terrible games, soft core porn, for voyeurs basically, and that doesn't sell games, cause, ya know, people who buy games tend to want good game play to go along with it. Which tends to be why the DOA fighters don't do well ether, they just aren't good fighters.Johnny Novgorod said:Why do you think they don't sell.Lunar Templar said:while you COULD say something like this is the reason, it's not.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
This is.Andy Shandy said:If I had to guess, because it doesn't sell. While the games generate controversy and discussion, they don't make money.
so that 'puritan' malarkey doesn't really hold up, cause if they where good games, they would sell far better then they do, but they aren't so they don't.
hows it feel to be WRONG.Lightspeaker said:I'm vaguely amused by several people in here saying "its not that the west has sexual hang-ups, its that they don't sell". Never occurred to you that they don't sell BECAUSE the west has sexual hang-ups?
It's almost like you haven't read the thread....Charli said:The fear of the tiddy is strong in the west. Good Ol' Christian fundamentalism.
Lunar Templar said:Johnny Novgorod said:Yet they sell splendidly in Japan. Wonder why.Lunar Templar said:Because they are terrible games, soft core porn, for voyeurs basically, and that doesn't sell games, cause, ya know, people who buy games tend to want good game play to go along with it. Which tends to be why the DOA fighters don't do well ether, they just aren't good fighters.Johnny Novgorod said:Why do you think they don't sell.Lunar Templar said:while you COULD say something like this is the reason, it's not.Johnny Novgorod said:A history of religious prudery, for starters.
This is.Andy Shandy said:If I had to guess, because it doesn't sell. While the games generate controversy and discussion, they don't make money.
so that 'puritan' malarkey doesn't really hold up, cause if they where good games, they would sell far better then they do, but they aren't so they don't.
hows it feel to be WRONG.Lightspeaker said:I'm vaguely amused by several people in here saying "its not that the west has sexual hang-ups, its that they don't sell". Never occurred to you that they don't sell BECAUSE the west has sexual hang-ups?
DoAX I
North America: 0.36m 61.1%
+ Europe: 0.08m 13.4%
+ Japan: 0.14m 23.0%
+ Rest of the World: 0.02m 2.5%
= Global 0.59m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/482/dead-or-alive-xtreme-beach-volleyball/
DoAX II
North America: 0.15m 57.7%
+ Europe: 0.03m 11.0%
+ Japan: 0.06m 24.9%
+ Rest of the World: 0.02m 6.4%
= Global 0.26m
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/481/dead-or-alive-xtreme-2/
whats that?! the first 2 games didn't even sell 1 million copys world wide, AND North America OUT SOLD JAPAN.
yeah, we're done here.
Sit down, shut up, and stop lieing to people.
They're bad games, bad games don't sell. get over it.
There's more too, you should give it a try! You might come away with a new perspective, uncomfortable as that might be for you.AccursedTheory said:Oh, please.Guilion said:I can't point specific posts on the thread as that would warrant me a warning, however just in the first page there's someone saying those kind of games are nothing but porn and someone else implying the only people that play those games are lonely people that can't get real women. That sort of condescending attitude is what I'm reffering to when I say there's prejudice leveled at those kind of games and the people who play them.AccursedTheory said:Curious. The most common insult I've seen thrown around in this thread so far has been 'prudish.'
I really don't think the titty lovers are in a position to cry 'victim' here.
Out of curiosity, I checked.
Users blasting DOAX/'Titty Game' Enthusiast - 2
Users blasting US citizens as prudish/puritanical - 10
Users blasting companies that make titty games - 2
Users blasting people for thinking Huniepop/DOAX are titty games - 1
Users claiming I, specifically, am a subpar perv - 1
...What? I'm struggling to discover how 'try more' is an appropriate response to what amounts to me taking a score count of thread posters. Do you want me to try reading more post? I assure you, I already did. That's how I took score.Einspanner said:AccursedTheory said:Oh, please.Guilion said:I can't point specific posts on the thread as that would warrant me a warning, however just in the first page there's someone saying those kind of games are nothing but porn and someone else implying the only people that play those games are lonely people that can't get real women. That sort of condescending attitude is what I'm reffering to when I say there's prejudice leveled at those kind of games and the people who play them.AccursedTheory said:Curious. The most common insult I've seen thrown around in this thread so far has been 'prudish.'
I really don't think the titty lovers are in a position to cry 'victim' here.
Out of curiosity, I checked.
Users blasting DOAX/'Titty Game' Enthusiast - 2
Users blasting US citizens as prudish/puritanical - 10
Users blasting companies that make titty games - 2
Users blasting people for thinking Huniepop/DOAX are titty games - 1
Users claiming I, specifically, am a subpar perv - 1
There's more too, you should give it a try! You might come away with a new perspective, uncomfortable as that might be for you.
Sorry, you misunderstood, that was directed at Charli, I was citing you.AccursedTheory said:...What? I'm struggling to discover how 'try more' is an appropriate response to what amounts to me taking a score count of thread posters. Do you want me to try reading more post? I assure you, I already did. That's how I took score.Einspanner said:AccursedTheory said:Oh, please.Guilion said:I can't point specific posts on the thread as that would warrant me a warning, however just in the first page there's someone saying those kind of games are nothing but porn and someone else implying the only people that play those games are lonely people that can't get real women. That sort of condescending attitude is what I'm reffering to when I say there's prejudice leveled at those kind of games and the people who play them.AccursedTheory said:Curious. The most common insult I've seen thrown around in this thread so far has been 'prudish.'
I really don't think the titty lovers are in a position to cry 'victim' here.
Out of curiosity, I checked.
Users blasting DOAX/'Titty Game' Enthusiast - 2
Users blasting US citizens as prudish/puritanical - 10
Users blasting companies that make titty games - 2
Users blasting people for thinking Huniepop/DOAX are titty games - 1
Users claiming I, specifically, am a subpar perv - 1
There's more too, you should give it a try! You might come away with a new perspective, uncomfortable as that might be for you.
none of that means anything sorry to say ^^Lightspeaker said:Oh you want to play the numbers game?Lunar Templar said:-snip-
Please let us play the numbers game!
Population of North America: ~565,265,000
Population of Japan: ~127,110,000
Ratio of Populations (North America:Japan): ~4.44:1
DOAXI Sales figures ratio (North America:Japan): ~2.57:1
DOAXII Sales figures ratio (North America:Japan): ~2.5:1
What's that? The games sold higher in Japan relative to its population size than North America? And that you used the figures in a biased way and deceptive way (by leaving out any correction for the respective population sizes) to try to prove your point?
To quote yourself:
"yeah, we're done here.
Sit down, shut up, and stop lieing to people."
Also I've reported your post given how abusive you're being. And blocked you. Good day.
I'm done with this thread now. Its been a pleasant and interesting chat with some of you.
Whoops, my bad. I'm feeling kind of crappy so I skipped to my name without reading the rest, because I wanted to go lay down sooner.Einspanner said:AccursedTheory said:...What? I'm struggling to discover how 'try more' is an appropriate response to what amounts to me taking a score count of thread posters. Do you want me to try reading more post? I assure you, I already did. That's how I took score.Einspanner said:AccursedTheory said:Oh, please.Guilion said:I can't point specific posts on the thread as that would warrant me a warning, however just in the first page there's someone saying those kind of games are nothing but porn and someone else implying the only people that play those games are lonely people that can't get real women. That sort of condescending attitude is what I'm reffering to when I say there's prejudice leveled at those kind of games and the people who play them.AccursedTheory said:Curious. The most common insult I've seen thrown around in this thread so far has been 'prudish.'
I really don't think the titty lovers are in a position to cry 'victim' here.
Out of curiosity, I checked.
Users blasting DOAX/'Titty Game' Enthusiast - 2
Users blasting US citizens as prudish/puritanical - 10
Users blasting companies that make titty games - 2
Users blasting people for thinking Huniepop/DOAX are titty games - 1
Users claiming I, specifically, am a subpar perv - 1
There's more too, you should give it a try! You might come away with a new perspective, uncomfortable as that might be for you.
Sorry, you misunderstood, that was directed at Charli, I was citing you.
He thought that you were trying to make a point about per capita sales, or something like that, as opposed to just demonstrating piss poor sales numbers everywhere, including the homeland. Then again, I think based on the response you got, it could also have just been a tantrum.Lunar Templar said:none of that means anything sorry to say ^^Lightspeaker said:Oh you want to play the numbers game?Lunar Templar said:-snip-
Please let us play the numbers game!
Population of North America: ~565,265,000
Population of Japan: ~127,110,000
Ratio of Populations (North America:Japan): ~4.44:1
DOAXI Sales figures ratio (North America:Japan): ~2.57:1
DOAXII Sales figures ratio (North America:Japan): ~2.5:1
What's that? The games sold higher in Japan relative to its population size than North America? And that you used the figures in a biased way and deceptive way (by leaving out any correction for the respective population sizes) to try to prove your point?
To quote yourself:
"yeah, we're done here.
Sit down, shut up, and stop lieing to people."
Also I've reported your post given how abusive you're being. And blocked you. Good day.
I'm done with this thread now. Its been a pleasant and interesting chat with some of you.
more people doesn't mean more sales, all it means is more potential sales.
It was my fault actually, I should have formatted that in a way to make it clear who I was talking to. Lets just call it a day.AccursedTheory said:Whoops, my bad. I'm feeling kind of crappy so I skipped to my name without reading the rest, because I wanted to go lay down sooner.Einspanner said:AccursedTheory said:...What? I'm struggling to discover how 'try more' is an appropriate response to what amounts to me taking a score count of thread posters. Do you want me to try reading more post? I assure you, I already did. That's how I took score.Einspanner said:AccursedTheory said:Oh, please.Guilion said:I can't point specific posts on the thread as that would warrant me a warning, however just in the first page there's someone saying those kind of games are nothing but porn and someone else implying the only people that play those games are lonely people that can't get real women. That sort of condescending attitude is what I'm reffering to when I say there's prejudice leveled at those kind of games and the people who play them.AccursedTheory said:Curious. The most common insult I've seen thrown around in this thread so far has been 'prudish.'
I really don't think the titty lovers are in a position to cry 'victim' here.
Out of curiosity, I checked.
Users blasting DOAX/'Titty Game' Enthusiast - 2
Users blasting US citizens as prudish/puritanical - 10
Users blasting companies that make titty games - 2
Users blasting people for thinking Huniepop/DOAX are titty games - 1
Users claiming I, specifically, am a subpar perv - 1
There's more too, you should give it a try! You might come away with a new perspective, uncomfortable as that might be for you.
Sorry, you misunderstood, that was directed at Charli, I was citing you.
My apologies.
Even without sexualization Blizzard won't touch spinoffs like that. Blizzard isn't going to mimic a spinoff series like DOAX that can't even break a million copies sold world wide. Blizzard likely won't even look at a concept that isn't completely proven to be AAA worthy.Gamerpalooza said:Keep in mind that in the Dead or Alive universe Zack bought his private island in the end of DoA3 which allowed for DoAX which he did under the pretense of it being the next island that the tournament will be held. The island was destroyed but he made money in DoA 4 and either repaired the island or bought a new one.slo said:I kind of re-read the thread and found that it absolutely does not answer the question, why cannot Blizzard do an Overwatch Beach spin-off, where everyone's running around in hula skirts blasting each other with super soakers.
Sure Blizzard can easily pull off something like this since they can make a game like Heroes of the Storm but they wont touch this because they are PC about it which was proven to be the case when their political position was brought into question and they mentioned gamergate in one of their panels. Even though that doesn't really stops them taking the sexy outfit route for DLC in both HotS and Overwatch. If they need a plot they can easily concoct one.
Hell they can even break the mold by bringing males, "animals"?, and pets into the mix.
So to answer your question bluntly, Blizzard wont touch that kind of spin-off because of their political leanings. It's too radical of an idea for their company to uphold and defend.
Now THAT is hi-freaking-larious considering we're getting a game called "The Fractured, But Whole" soon. Not to mention the recent Doom game where blood, guts, and mayhem are practically punctuation marks in the game's script. Then you have Dragon Age Origins which sold itself on sex and violence.Don Incognito said:"What's keeping the West from making DOAX style games?"
Good taste.