What's so great about Elder Scrolls?

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Kurokami

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Blade1130 said:
I've been on these forums for at least a LITTLE while now, and I've noticed that in damned near every thread related to extremely good games Oblivion or Skyrim comes up. I've never personally played either, and I was wondering, why are they so great? Oblivion seems to be THE RPG that is apparently the greatest thing ever made, while Skyrim appears to be the second coming of Christ. I have seen a handful of trailers for both, and neither look that good to me, they seem quite boring, but clearly everyone on this site seems to love them. Again, I haven't played, but after everyone on these forums I'm definitely considering giving Oblivion a shot, I just want to know what makes them so great?
What do you play?
 

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Nothing. there is something in elder scroll series always turn me off. and imo Skyrim is most overhype game this year
I see your Skyrim and raise you a MW3.

OT - just try them out. You can only know what you're missing if you actually play the games.
 

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I can understand why some people like the Elder Scrolls but they are certainly not my taste. I played Morrowind and Oblivion back in the day and really wanted to like them after hearing so much about them. But I disliked both of them, I found them the least personal of any RPGs I've ever played. The big open worlds were great and the freedom was definitely a huge pull of both games. But the lack of any meaningful purpose or interaction just made both games a series of unrelated quests to me. I'm even tempted by Skyrim due to the hype and the reaction by the gaming community. But I shouldn't, I've been burnt twice before by the Elder Scrolls series.

I do find the hype surrounding Skyrim a little much but then that's only normal given my view of the series. Come early next year I'll be one of many hyping up Mass Effect 3 and the hype surrounding that may be too much to those whothink little of the ME series. That's the nature of hype, annoying to hear if you're not part of it.
 

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I am a fan of fantasy RPG so yeah, for me Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are all the best and best to be games. But I feel that it really depends on one taste. Example: I played Oblivion for two months and did not do anything conserning the main quest-line. I did become an Archmage, Head of Mercs, Grey Fox, Member of the sun order, Mad God, Listener of the Black Hand, Knight of the Nine, and more titles that I can't remember. Then I finished the game's quest line, bought houses in every city, got a maid, and carried on to experiment with thousands of mods. The game is just BIG. This is not Mass Effect-style RPG. This is THE RPG. And I hope Bethesda still knows what they are doing.

P.S. Oblivion was NOT ugly and anyone who says that it is must eat their own eyeballs. Oblivion could still give many modern games a run for their money.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Freedom. You are thrown into the world and told to go do something. The freedom that the games offer is the major selling point for me.
Exactly my reason for loving them.
 

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Blade1130 said:
PunkyMcGee said:
If you don't like the trailers. then you may not like the games. It seems to me by the wording of your post that fantasy RPGs aren't your thing.
You do have a point, Middle Ages era games were never my cup of tea, although I do like the Sci-Fi/cyber-punk style ones much better, ie. Mass Effect, Deus Ex, Halo. But I've been trying to branch out a lot more, exploring genres I never got into. For instance I've never been one for horror games, but I got Amnesia the other day simply because I heard it was really good. I still want to play Silent Hill at some point, where exactly can I get that now anyways? I also generally don't like Real-Time Strategy games, but damn do I love StarCraft, though that one isn't very recent... Let's put it this way, I'm not really into the fantasy RPG's like you said, but I'm trying to give it a try, and I figured the "best" one should at least come off as "decent" to someone who doesn't like the genre.
I definitely recommend Fallout 3 or New Vegas then. It is sort of sci-fi in the sense that it takes place in the future (from the point of view of someone from the 1950s) and features direct energy weapons and robots while still giving you the same feeling of freedom and exploration that Oblivion and Morrowind offer. Trust me, the feeling of being in a vast wasteland by yourself (for the most part) and surviving is great. Playing with Hardcore mode on New Vegas definitely sets the atmosphere.

My guy was always the rogue that would explore ruins for valuables and amass tons of wealth and from scavenging and then buying the most badass equipment and collect the most badass equipment to survive in the wilderness. I literally developed my own method for what constitutes as good loot and junk.
 

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Honestly, Oblivion was not that great, and Skyrim looks like almost exactly the same game. I think most of the excitement people have/had for Oblivion and Skyrim were due to how great Morrowind was.

Don't get me wrong. I played more than 140 hours of Oblivion. I was a badass black chick with a ponytail and a hammer as big as an angry cow; I bought five houses, got turned into a vampire, and generally became a God, and had a lot of fun doing it. But Oblivion and Skyrim (as far as I can tell) suffer from the problem that other people mentioned before. It's ugly as hell. There's no imagination in the art direction at all, the character voices are samey and uninspired, and you lack motivation to actually care about saving the world.

I really dont understand how someone could play 140 hours of a game they didnt like.
 

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Go to the Bethesda Youtube channel and watch the past 3 YouTube videos they've posted on the Skyrim playlist.

Imagine you are in that world. That is why.

For me, Oblivion holds a special place in my heart because it was the first Xbox 360 game I played. It was the most depth I had ever seen in a game and (despite what most people say) I was completely immersed. I played for 12 hours straight and I was seeing *press A to open door* everywhere I went in the real world.
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Because I can do everything I have wanted to do in real life. You know, like kill everyone with a bow when someone disagrees with me.
I envision someone crying while going on a rampage screaming "YOU MADE ME DO THIS"
 

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Forget about Oblivion, get the graphics extender, and play Morrowind instead. That shit will blow your brains D:
 

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The Elder Scrolls are essentially some of the most utterly convincing worlds ever constructed. The depth in lore is often staggering, and the sheer attention to detail present is usually unmatched.
On top of the freedom to explore these worlds, we're offered a chance to basically be unstoppable madmen - free to roam and do as we please. No game offers real freedom the way the Elder Scrolls do.
 

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Echoing most of the posts before mine, I will say freedom and immersion.
Oblivion was a good game, but compared the Morrowind I found the world a bit bland. Still I?ve played both games for hundreds of hours, and I?m sure the same will be true of Skyrim.
 

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Oblivion bleaks when in the vicinity of Morrowind (when it comes to story, immersion etc.) if I am very honest.

And skyrim is so great because well, because you gotta love the genre to fully understand I think. It's like Minecraft. If you don't like it, you won't see what's so great about it :p
 

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Oblivion is one of the best games I've played. Story, characters, dialogue, etc., were all pretty boring, as with the monsters (and generally crappy animals like rats and lions)... But it's still one of the funnest games I've ever played.

I think Skyrim has improved the monsters a bit. Dragons, mammoths, etc. However, I'm unsure of the story atm.
 

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1) It looks pretty
2) Massive Environment
3) Long play time (though most of it is spent faffing around and walking)
4) Mods (for PC gamers). It's one of the very very few game series that actively encourages user-created content that isn't technically and legally confined (ie, Starcraft 2, Little Big Planet, Minecraft).

That said, it's massively overhyped with a ravenous fanbase ready to defend its honor.
And honestly, I find that to be the worst part of any game.
 

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distortedreality said:
Diesel- said:
Nothing. there is something in elder scroll series always turn me off. and imo Skyrim is most overhype game this year
I see your Skyrim and raise you a MW3.

OT - just try them out. You can only know what you're missing if you actually play the games.
Hay man. You shouldn't mess with this guy. He's super cool cause he plays real shooters like TF2.


Really OP, everything I wanted to say about The Elder Scrolls series has been said. They're a game that captures my interest, and captures it well. I've spent a good several hundred hours playing it. The amount of freedom in the game just doesn't compare to a lot of games.

Ruwrak said:
Oblivion bleaks when in the vicinity of Morrowind (when it comes to story, immersion etc.) if I am very honest.

And skyrim is so great because well, because you gotta love the genre to fully understand I think. It's like Minecraft. If you don't like it, you won't see what's so great about it :p
I have to disagree, my good sir. I found Morrowind to be completely UNimmersive. The terrible gameplay mechanics tore me right out of the immersion.

*swing sword* *miss*
*swing sword* *miss*
*swing sword* *miss*
*swing sword* *miss*
*swing sword* *hit*
*swing sword* *miss*
*swing sword* *miss*
*swing sword* *miss*

Idk about you, but the fact that you can't hit ANYTHING the first try is just a game killer for me. :(
 

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Well I find the story and the roleplay aspects alot of fun, oblivion is one of only 2 games I have played after gerring 100% of the achievements on so.
 

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Connosd said:
Vrach said:
Blade1130 said:
I've been on these forums for at least a LITTLE while now, and I've noticed that in damned near every thread related to extremely good games Oblivion or Skyrim comes up. I've never personally played either, and I was wondering, why are they so great? Oblivion seems to be THE RPG that is apparently the greatest thing ever made, while Skyrim appears to be the second coming of Christ. I have seen a handful of trailers for both, and neither look that good to me, they seem quite boring, but clearly everyone on this site seems to love them. Again, I haven't played, but after everyone on these forums I'm definitely considering giving Oblivion a shot, I just want to know what makes them so great?
How about a counter question, what seems boring about them?
(I have the 'itch' to counter your question of a question with a quote from one of the recent quizzes:) "Let me answer your question with a question, if a tree falls and there's no one around to hear it..."
Sorry, I think I'm missing your point x.x

But I was seriously asking the OP what he finds boring about the titles. It's weird to say a game is bad and ask explanation on how it's good without explaining what you don't like about it. I asked it for a reason. For example, if the OP thinks TES is boring because it has little to no direction, there's little anyone will be able to do to change his mind - because that's what TES is considered great for and apparently, that's not his thing. That's why I'm asking, to see what he doesn't like, whereupon I can either provide a counterargument or concede that the point would be a matter of whether you like that sort of thing or not.

Personally, other than "Gamebryo sucks for me", I haven't seen a single good and real (non-subjective) argument against the TES games. I get some people might not like the game because they're not into what it offers, but that's personal opinion, not an indication of the game's quality.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Freedom. You are thrown into the world and told to go do something. The freedom that the games offer is the major selling point for me.
This is big. They are also the only modern, popular rpgs where you play as one really powerful character, instead of a party of moderately powerful chars which is the reason I like it. I like to be a god, not a group of well trained but relatively ordinary people.

Also, they are just very solid RPGs with great mechanics. The only reason I can see someone not enjoying them, is if they either don't really like RPGs in general, or they don't really like solo RPGs.