What's so great about Skyrim?

Bocaj2000

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aguywhoknowsaguy said:
What was the last open-world fantasy rpg, that didn't come from japan or sucked?
I assume that MMORPGs dont count, so here you go.

diablo 1 2 3, two worlds, titan quest, neverwinter nights 1 2, hellgate: london, fable, star wars: knights of the old republic, gothic 1 2 3, and dungeon siege 2. Need more?
 

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Bocaj2000 said:
aguywhoknowsaguy said:
What was the last open-world fantasy rpg, that didn't come from japan or sucked?
I assume that MMORPGs dont count, so here you go.

diablo 1 2 3, two worlds, titan quest, neverwinter nights 1 2, hellgate: london, fable, star wars: knights of the old republic, gothic 1 2 3, and dungeon siege 2. Need more?
Aside from Gothic and Two Worlds, none of those are really open-world like the TES series and Gothic 3 came out quite a long time ago. (Comparatively.)

I'm not the biggest fan of Bethesda, but as of now, there isn't much competition in that area.
 

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I'll let you know tomorrow at midnight.

In all seriousness OP, if you have never played Oblivion then you can't comprehend. Words can't describe the experience.
 

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erttheking said:
aguywhoknowsaguy said:
What was the last open-world fantasy rpg, that didn't come from japan or sucked?
I'm guessing that you've never heard of the Fallout series, specifically Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas.
I'm guessing that you've never heard of the concept that is called fantasy.
 

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I personally love open world games, and by the looks of things, Skyrim is MASSIVE. I also really enjoyed Oblivion, and Fallout 3 also developed by Bethesda. The game and scenery looks beautiful from the trailers and screenshots, and also, dragons.
 

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Herr Uhl said:
erttheking said:
aguywhoknowsaguy said:
What was the last open-world fantasy rpg, that didn't come from japan or sucked?
I'm guessing that you've never heard of the Fallout series, specifically Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas.
I'm guessing that you've never heard of the concept that is called fantasy.
Technically it is fantasy. Sci-fi fantasy, but yeah. Semantics, I know. Just felt it needed to be pointed out.
 

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Herr Uhl said:
erttheking said:
aguywhoknowsaguy said:
What was the last open-world fantasy rpg, that didn't come from japan or sucked?
I'm guessing that you've never heard of the Fallout series, specifically Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas.
I'm guessing that you've never heard of the concept that is called fantasy.
"Double reads OP" Woopsie Daisies didn't see that.
 

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Ohh... good question...
Um, the draw of the Elder Scrolls series has been its depth of content primarily. While they have a generally structured main quest they exemplify the sandbox games. It?s that feeling of exploration, of going over the next hill. In allot of ways they are the closest titles we have to some kind of medieval fantasy simulator (notice I said closest). Elements like the spell making feature made the player feel they were contributing in some way to the game itself and the shear amount of factions involved in the game allow the player to role-play anything they want, all you need is a little imagination (lol :) ).

Placing the player in a swords and sorcery adventure from the first person perspective isn?t really new, put making the player only control one person instead of a party is a radical departure from older RPGs. This adoption of the avatar instead of the party fosters a greater emotinal bond between the player and their PC (player character, not a computer....um... ya...) leading to a greater self identification between the two by the player.

Though first person has been used by the FPS, the frantic conditions of melee combat separate it from this genre. No one likes it when something gets in their face, and a gun keeps things at range. Speaking of FPS, another draw to the Elderscroll series is its customization. The ability to chose what you are using is a big draw for many games. Many multiplayer modes of FPS? have now integrated this feature. In these games, you as the soldier can use all ?weapons?. In standard RPGs the character?s class and level defined what weapons and gear they could use. In the elder scrolls the PC is not limited by these things, creating a more believable environment. I.E. Just because the mage is weak and hasn?t learned how to hold a sword properly doesn?t stop her from swinging it around wildly hoping to hurt the enemy (funny story about me and a rat on my first play through of morrowind.....).

Because the stories contained in the elder scrolls games are only connected through the in-game universe itself and not by an unbroken in-game narrative the continuity is kept for returning fans, lending them the ?I?ve done that, that?s what I?m responsible for? feeling and allowing the new players to enter into an experience not feeling like they missed out. I?ve personally got some fond memories of Morrowind and was delighted to find some history books in oblivion that recounted the general idea of what happened in the morrowind main quest. Playing the previous titles can help the player understand the lore of the land but they aren?t required to enjoy the games themselves.

Hopefully that helped, and if you do get it, I hope you enjoy yourself :) .
 

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numbersix1979 said:
Gill Kaiser said:
Read one of the other million posts of this exact topic that have been popping up on every gaming forum.

Here's a hint: Freedom, depth, immersion, size and moddability.
Well pardon me for not checking with all you guys to make sure it was okay for me to ask a question other people have as well. I didn't know what the deal was, and I thought I'd ask. Sheesh.
Suggesting in any way that skyrim will not be the greatest game ever just because it is has become a capital crime round here. All the fan boys for a game they HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED YET get butt hurt and start crying that someone doesn't worship it just because it's skyrim. I've been wondering much the same as yourself personally, why all the massive fuss and fanboyism for a game that is not out yet? I can bet that a week from now all the "skyrim is amazing" threads will be replaced by "skyrim is not as good as it's hyped to be" because I can 100% guarantee it isn't.
 

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People want Skyrim, because Elder Scrolls games are consistently the best fantasy RPGs around in the eyes of many, and provide the best depth and immersion available. Skyrim looks like it's going to be the best Elder Scrolls game yet. (Except maybe Morrowind, depending on who you ask)

Me? As a huge Elder Scrolls fanboy, I think it's gonna be the best game ever.
 

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Gorrila_thinktank said:
Thankyou, this is the first description I've seen of why skyrim might actually be worth a look. It's also the first I've seen that doesn't insult the asker for not knowing everything about TES and knowing that skyrim is clearly the best game ever just because.
 

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That's the thing(From what I've seen, at least), there isn't a single feature in Skyrim that stands out, it's all so expertly done. If I had to pick one though, I'd say the immersion. Before Fallout 3 never before had a game held such a nuanced and in-depth world, I wanted to keep playing just to find out what else was there.

Some games offer entertainment, but few offer engagement.
 

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Dude, it's the elder scrolls. It's THE fantasy epic. It's amazing for one simple reason. It's whoever YOU want to be in a world they create. In a realistic leveling up manner, where the skills you use are the skills you master, so for instance, if you want to grab a sword, instead of assigning 20 skillpoints to the sword skill, you start using, and by practice you earn skill with that sword, so later in the game you will swing that sword like a boss, and there's this system of reward, where to master a skill, you must use it constantly, and every time there's this little music, that tells you you've gained more points for that skill, you feel awesome, like in real life, when you realize, that thing you practiced over and over and over again, had a great impact on your life. Also the openess and the quests and the gazzilion NPCs with miscelanous quests that can keep you going for days. The world is also put in a very realistic manner where you feel the immersiveness from the minute you step out of that prison, morrowind more than oblivion, but Skyrim goes back to that (based on the concept art). The first person does it's part as well because you feel as if you were the dude doin' the killin. So yeah, that and other factors make skyrim great, because that's what made Morrowind and Oblivion great, and if it improoves on that, it will be the greatest game EVARRRR!!!!!!
Also dragons dude, dragons.
 

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Because lots of things nowadays are streamlined and toned down to appeal to kids of all ages, including Mass Effect (theres hardly any rpg elements at all, its a TPS with dialogue choices) and some people want an in depth rpg that has depth. All I want is depth, im not a kid, I don't need my hand fucking held throughout the games I play. Give me another rpg that does that.

No seriously I like rpgs. Give me some names people lol.
 

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Bhaalspawn said:
Okay, it's official:


I mean really. Just wait for the game to come out. It's not going to be the best game ever, this is Bethesda, not BioWare or Blizzard. It's going to be the same medival Fantasy game that every other Elder Scrolls game is. Just give it a rest everybody!

Bioware and Blizzard are nothing special.

You seriously just tried to fight fanboyism with double fanboyism.