Whats wrong with vista?

The Lost Big Boss

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robinkom said:
To me, it seemed as if Microsoft spent too much time working on Vista, allowing the X{ user-base to explode to gigantic proportions. In effect, the library of software for XP had built up over all those years to the point of "be-all-end-all" acceptance by PC owners.
Actually MS didn't spend enough time on Vista. From what iv'e heard they were using some sorta beta software to develop Vista. After three years of work Vista was broken from using beta software so they needed to start over from scratch. So Vista is a two year rush of an OS and it shows. Thats why W7 is coming out so fast, it is what Vista was supposed to be.
 

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I see alot of vista sucks on forums around the net and its forced me to ask the question, whats wrong with vista?
Things not to include: It takes up a ton of space on the hard drive, It attempts to be over protected but its security sucks.
The answer is two fold.

1) The User.
2) The person selling to the user.

That's it.

Mr.Tea said:
The problem is between the keyboard and the chair... what's between the keyboard and the chair? YOU. The user. The stupid user that doesn't know how to use Vista and then bashes it.
See. Someone else knows ;p.

I've been using Windows since early years of XP and EVERY blue screen I've ever had has been of my own causing.

The fact that their OS even works on most of these shitty builds folks use is astounding to me. It's not to say that Microsoft makes the best product or to lick their sack, I just can't accept that their product is as faulty as folks tell me.

If Windows was that bad, considering how much I mod and tweak my systems, I should have seen it by now.

PS. Windows 7 is de Shiznit. (For those who need their elitist fix I get a boner for Ubuntu as well so calm down)
 

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I see alot of vista sucks on forums around the net and its forced me to ask the question, whats wrong with vista?
Things not to include: It takes up a ton of space on the hard drive, It attempts to be over protected but its security sucks.
I dont understand it either myself, Vista runs well on my machine, no freezes or anything, runs smooth etc and when games crash (due to the game not the OS and it happens less than in XP) vista doesnt notice it, the game just dies and u go to desktop, half the time in XP a game crash = restart/system crash.
 

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I use Vista and I love it. It was quite crappy when it came out so it got lots of bad publicity but they fixed it and now it is a great OS. In my opinion, it is even better than XP which is outdated for me now. Most people that bash Vista have used it only for a few seconds or not at all and they merely got their opinions from the reviews or friends so they decided to go along with the crowd and bash it. As for Windows 7, im sure it will be great but for those that have Vista I'm not sure if it will be worth to pay a 100$.
 

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Hoxton said:
TO EVERYONE HERE
Do NOT tell me that XP had the same problems when it was first released. XP was released FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO. With the progress made it is UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE to release a product after FIVE FUCKING YEARS, rip your FUCKING LIMBS AND TOES for it, and it is unaccpetably FUCKING INCOMPLETE AND FLAWED. So suck it up, and don't try to compare vista with the FIRST version of XP it is FUCKING INSANE to do that.
I'm one of those edgy, crazy people who bought a computer just before vista came out, and installed RC1. Let me be the first to point out that, on hardware released around the same time as vista, it was far less buggy than the going build of XP (Yes, I mean the RC1, let's not forget that XP home did not support dual core processors). That isn't to say it's fine, but XP is disguisting example of an operating system, especially considering it's built off of NT, so really XP was already several years old on release. It is beyond unacceptable that it still runs like shit and has no workable 64 bit system, but it is straight up disguisting that they held off updating dual core support on the cheaper version of the operating system for so long.

Most of the hate on vista was purely because people couldn't run it on older systems, and didn't like that microsoft was trying to force them to update. All the bitching about it being a memory hog is unfounded, yes it uses like 500mb of ram on idle, it also uses less when running resource heavy programs, if you have the recommended settings it will run things fine. Do we remember XP needing 256MB of ram to run, back when 256 was the standard memory rate? How is that different from vista wanting 1GB when most computers have that ram to use? The actual system is only terrible until you compare it to other microsoft OSs, but hey, it's cool to hate vista.
 

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RicoADF said:
Ph33nix said:
I see alot of vista sucks on forums around the net and its forced me to ask the question, whats wrong with vista?
Things not to include: It takes up a ton of space on the hard drive, It attempts to be over protected but its security sucks.
I dont understand it either myself, Vista runs well on my machine, no freezes or anything, runs smooth etc and when games crash (due to the game not the OS and it happens less than in XP) vista doesnt notice it, the game just dies and u go to desktop, half the time in XP a game crash = restart/system crash.
I have to agree with this. When a game crashed for me in XP it was a nightmare to sort it out. In Vista it simply goes out to the desktop without any hick ups. Vista is a great system for me, far better than XP was for gaming
 

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I've used Xp Home, Xp Pro, Vista and Windows 7.

That said, Vista technically was a sound OS. It runs, beeps, and does everything an Os is supposed to do, including looking a far cry better than XP. However the problem came with older hardware not being powerful enough or drivers not initially available for the 64 bit versions. After they released SP1, it worked good.

The same can be said for XP. I remember using it and having all sorts of issues when it came out. I prefer XP pro because i am poor and my older notebook doesn't quite have the muscle it should.

I have used Windows 7 and if i had a new computer, come Oct. 22 it would be on my PC!!

So Vista isn't really bad, it just had new features that people weren't used to and some we mouse shattering annoyances ie. UAC.
 

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Vista is ok. I think why there is a lot of hate for vista is because it seems to be expected to hate Microsoft recently. I guess its the Nerd's version of smoking ;).
Combining it with Norton AntiVirus is like Shark with Lasers. XP is preferable though.
 

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Vista is definitely better than XP.
I've had NO issues with it, and once you turn off UAC no-one has any reason to dislike Vista.
UAC isn't that bad anyway. It only comes up with a warning when you're messing around in Program Files and the OS files. And even then it comes up with ONE message box. Just one.
Here's a nice slogan: "It isn't Vista, it's you"
That basically means that YOU'RE the one not updating the software or caring for your computer.
It's your loss if you don't like Vista.
Performance wise, it is more efficient. Turn off the awesome 3D interface and it runs better than XP.
Don't make your judgement on Vista right after installation. Vista detects which programs you use the most, and it prepares these files for use. During the first week Vista will index your hard drive allowing INSTANT searches to be made.
After a week Vista will be at full speed and noticeably faster at boots and shutdowns.
 

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Three words: UAC.

I don't recall the specifics, but I was trying to execute a command/program/process that comes automatically installed with Vista and it asked me "Are you sure you want to do that? This might cause harm to your computer". It damn well better not.

Then I noticed it doesn't seem to have a "yes to all" feature like XP did, but I admit I don't do much that lets me run across it. I was copying some pictures I took from a trip onto a flash drive and it was copying without the properties for some reason (which where there when I plugged it into my XP machine). I had to click "yes" for every single photo, of which there were about 75 that didn't get their properties copied. Oh, and the UAC goes apeshit on me and darkens the rest of the screen so if I, say, tell it "Open MSWord" while I'm doing something important in another window- maybe having a chat with a friend or playing a game or working on a paper- it'll stop me while I tell it "Yes, you fuckwit, I want to do what I just told you to do or else I wouldn't have told you to do it."

The window previews are pointless, as they're too small to really see what you're doing that you can't tell by just not having 50 windows open at once and remembering sort of what you were doing in each window. Or just clicking it and finding out without squinting your eyes, I mean, your mouse is already there, just click and save your eyesight, unless you're already a microscope.

It's a system hog, though if you have a good desktop this isn't as much of an issue, I grant. Though, Vista, out of the box, came with what was either five or ten million more lines of code than XP with all of its service packs (I think it was 50 or 55 million, but I don't recall the exact numbers). Though Mac OSX is ultra-guilty of this, coming with 86 million lines out of the box.

The source code was totally redesigned (contributing to the above issue), and so a LOT of stuff that would work on XP, which had the nice little "if it worked on ME (which was pretty bad)/2000/NT/etc it'll work here" for almost everything. Vista has the "Well if I don't ask you to confirm that you told me to open MSWord today, it might work if you're a redhead." Things that were compatible with XP don't work at all on Vista, so a lot of things have an XP and a Vista version- two separate data packs. However this is only a real problem for people who copied the entire contents of a previous hard drive- programs and all- or businesses looking to switch from XP to Vista.

Minimizing has the annoying "fade out" thing that gets piss annoying very fast to someone like me.

Now, I grant that I don't have a ludicrous amount of experience with Vista but I have used it quite a bit, though my XP machine is my main one (it's what I've been using for a while now so it's got most of my data on it).

BUT, on the whole Vista works fine. Most of what I've encountered are either more annoyances than anything else or fairly rare. Vista runs fine, but my user-end experience has just been that XP runs smoother.
 

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UAC (user account control) was annoying as shit but I've disabled that so It's smooth sailing. Visuals are low but I kept the aero desktop as opposed to original for no real reason other than I like it. All and all it's not terrible, it was just subdued by a successful marketing campaign against it and we all bought it.
 

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Hoxton said:
TO EVERYONE HERE
Do NOT tell me that XP had the same problems when it was first released. XP was released FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO. With the progress made it is UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE to release a product after FIVE FUCKING YEARS, rip your FUCKING LIMBS AND TOES for it, and it is unaccpetably FUCKING INCOMPLETE AND FLAWED. So suck it up, and don't try to compare vista with the FIRST version of XP it is FUCKING INSANE to do that.
My, aren't we an angry forum-goer - Enjoy the ban when it comes, btw.
 

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Not Good said:
UAC (user account control) was annoying as shit but I've disabled that so It's smooth sailing. Visuals are low but I kept the aero desktop as opposed to original for no real reason other than I like it. All and all it's not terrible, it was just subdued by a successful marketing campaign against it and we all bought it.
This, pretty much - I've got Vista and, ok, I've had a few problems with it, but I can honestly say I've had no more problems with it that I did with XP - well, aside from some old games that don't accept the multiple processor cores, but thats not Vista's fault. *curse's broken sword 4*

The primary reason people bemoan Vista is people don't have all the work arounds yet for Vista that they had XP.
 

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Mr.Tea said:
Dys said:
I'm one of those edgy, crazy people who bought a computer just before vista came out, and installed RC1. Let me be the first to point out that, on hardware released around the same time as vista, it was far less buggy than the going build of XP (Yes, I mean the RC1, let's not forget that XP home did not support dual core processors). That isn't to say it's fine, but XP is disguisting example of an operating system, especially considering it's built off of NT, so really XP was already several years old on release. It is beyond unacceptable that it still runs like shit and has no workable 64 bit system, but it is straight up disguisting that they held off updating dual core support on the cheaper version of the operating system for so long.
That is so wrong.

XP Home doesn't support dual processors (As in dual socket workstation motherboards with two actual CPUs). It supports any number of processor cores though, provided they are contained within the same chip package (Well it supports quad cores and there aren't any octo cores yet so whether it scales up that much is moot).
It doesn't now. When vista RC1 was released, XP home (pro had a proper update) did not have proper dualcore processer support, it would recignize that there were two physical cores, however performance was lower than it was on older, single core units. Pretty piss poor.
 

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i dont have a problem with vista. it does what i want when i want how i want it. never freezes(knock on wood).
only thing is its constant updating
 

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I own Vista and the Security is excellent but I have to say the only real problem is that it's very strict about what software you put on and such.