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Stilkon

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As I have Asperger's Syndrome, I feel like I have some importance in this matter:

Autism is not something to be "cured", or a "disease". I hate how Autism Speaks tries to scare moms into trying to support them, or making mothers of children with Autism/AS feel like they're so special. They're not. Autism Speaks is a slap in the face to me and others on the Autistic Spectrum because VERY FEW IF ANY people with Autism has spoken up themselves and supported them. I've viewed my AS as a gift and it has allowed me to look at things like sociality from a different angle than most. To say that I'm imperfect or diseased like they're doing is downright insulting. I mean, look at their little ribbon logo: It's made of puzzle pieces, like Autistic people don't fit in or are "puzzling".

Also, I'll jump on the anti-Religion bandwagon.
 

nbamaniac

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Mackheath said:
Number two; Religion should be abolished. The majority of people are just ordinary people who believe there is something more to this life than plain old human humdrum existance, but there is a minority who hold back human and societal growth by espousing religious views, which are held in higher regard-in some places- than ethical, scientific and humanitarian reasons, and even above logic.
Religion can adapt imo. It's just those hard to understand traditionalists.
 

Ara69

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I belive that without the gift of hindsight that we have now, most people would have voted for Hitler, and that said Führer did everything he did out of good intentions.
 

Ara69

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I belive that without the gift of hindsight that we have now, most people would have voted for Hitler, and that said Führer did everything he did out of good intentions.
 

Ara69

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I belive that without the gift of hindsight that we have now, most people would have voted for Hitler, and that said Führer did everything he did out of good intentions.
 

Cheesus333

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Nimcha said:
That's... exactly the same. :p No humans, noone around to say that it's not in such a sorry state.

The problem with your viewpoint is simple, you're projecting human viewpoints and concepts on a scale they're not designed for. Add to that my disagreement that the world is in a 'sorry state' and it all falls apart.

This human-hating shit is getting real old now.
Alright, I can see where you're coming from. But to be fair, if you ask a guy what he thinks, he'll tell you what a guy thinks - not what the universe thinks.

Yeah, I'm talking about a situation in which there are no people to judge whether humanity is good or bad, because good and bad are human terms, but I'm talking about it from a situation in which there are humans, and the behaviour of these humans are upon whom I am basing my observations. Additionally, I think we're just arguing semantics now.

Finally: I do agree that misanthropy is tiresome and, as you put it, getting old, but philanthropy tends to be around only when there's stuff to base it on. So is misanthropy, but there's a lot more for that. I think you'd be more likely to see 'man killed in crossfire of gang warfare' than 'man selflessly pushes child out of the way of a car and dies a hero'.

EDIT: Sorry, something I forgot to mention. The state of the world largely depends on how you look at it: on the one hand, science does wonderful things everyday to further us into advancement and civilisation. On the other hand, it's doing nothing to change our primal, base instincts - just because you invent the gun, doesn't mean people will use it responsibly. We're advancing faster than we can handle because, as a species, we're not exactly responsible enough to handle the things we control.
 

OptimisticPessimist

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Democracy doesn't work.

Also, I don't care if it's part of your fucking culture, dangerous and harmful customs have no inherent right to exist.

Oh, and women should stay in the kitchen. (kidding! Kidding! Don't lynch me.)
 

Nimcha

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Cheesus333 said:
Nimcha said:
That's... exactly the same. :p No humans, noone around to say that it's not in such a sorry state.

The problem with your viewpoint is simple, you're projecting human viewpoints and concepts on a scale they're not designed for. Add to that my disagreement that the world is in a 'sorry state' and it all falls apart.

This human-hating shit is getting real old now.
Alright, I can see where you're coming from. But to be fair, if you ask a guy what he thinks, he'll tell you what a guy thinks - not what the universe thinks.

Yeah, I'm talking about a situation in which there are no people to judge whether humanity is good or bad, because good and bad are human terms, but I'm talking about it from a situation in which there are humans, and the behaviour of these humans are upon whom I am basing my observations. Additionally, I think we're just arguing semantics now.

Finally: I do agree that misanthropy is tiresome and, as you put it, getting old, but philanthropy tends to be around only when there's stuff to base it on. So is misanthropy, but there's a lot more for that. I think you'd be more likely to see 'man killed in crossfire of gang warfare' than 'man selflessly pushes child out of the way of a car and dies a hero'.

EDIT: Sorry, something I forgot to mention. The state of the world largelt depends on how you look at it: on the one hand, science does wonderful things everyday to further us into advancement and civilisation. On the other hand, it's doing nothing to change our primal, base instincts - just because you invent the gun, doesn't mean people will use it responsibly. We're advancing faster than we can handle because, as a species, we're not exactly responsible enough to handle the things we control.
Important semantics. Yes this is a paradox.

You're again projecting your viewpoint on the whole of humanity and reality. You might think it's a bad thing science is not changing our primal, base instincts. But I disagree. And responsible is again a human term. It implies we as a species owe a responsibility to someone or other, which we don't.

I hope you get it now, because I can't explain it any way else without going into way too much detail. :p
 

ramboondiea

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i believe we should re-establish gender roles, i honestly feel the lines between them are too blurred, i dont think it needs to go as far as women being forced to stay in the kitchen, but there is far too much "liberation" out their for my taste
 

Spencer Petersen

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There is no need to have laws making any form of drug or chemical illegal for personal use. All these laws do is fund drug dealers and cartels who peddle the stuff past law enforcement to people who are encouraged somewhat by the rebellious nature of doing something illegal, as well as make those addicted turn in on themselves and alienate those who can help them for fear of being arrested or caught with illegal substances. I doubt the only thing keeping people from taking drugs is that its illegal. Many drug users are only violent because the sky-high prices of being forced to go to criminals to buy their fix. Just like the increase of crimes related to alcohol during Prohibition, as criminal groups like the Mafia stepped up and took over the trade, making drunks go to them for their fix, paying many times the original price because of the monopoly and putting themselves and others in danger when trying to get enough money to pay for the booze. I'm not saying we shouldn't help those addicted, we should. But helping them by putting them in prison is just forcing them deeper underground and put of the reach of those who can help.
 

Cheesus333

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Nimcha said:
Important semantics. Yes this is a paradox.

You're again projecting your viewpoint on the whole of humanity and reality. You might think it's a bad thing science is not changing our primal, base instincts. But I disagree. And responsible is again a human term. It implies we as a species owe a responsibility to someone or other, which we don't.

I hope you get it now, because I can't explain it any way else without going into way too much detail. :p
If I'm projecting my viewpoint, that would be because it's the only one I know. I am and have only ever been myself, I'm afraid I don't really know how other people see things, let alone things beyond other people. So if I sound like I'm speaking in terms of myself without considering the bigger picture, it's because the self-portrait is all I have a firm grasp of, and for that I apologise if I seem narrow-minded.

I think that we have a responsibility to ourselves, no more and no less. Some would say that, as arguably superior beings[footnote]Presumably due to our sentience and the ability to use tools and such things[/footnote] we are responsible for animals, but I don't really agree with that. However, if we want to get anywhere at all we have to be responsible for ourselves - at the very least on a personal level, if not a widely social one.

Anyway, as amiably civilised as this back-and-forth has been, I'm afraid my body clock calls me to sleep. Goodnight, sir, it's been a pleasure :p
 

FalloutJack

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I think that the human population needs to be cut down by the amount of people who are dumbasses too often.
 
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I think anyone who tortures animals or kills animals for no reason (pets or wild animals) should be executed
 

Morten Dall

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Alright, where to begin?

First of all, the wave of islamophobia spreading through the western world disgusts me. To judge so many people based on the behaviour of an extreme minority is just wrong on so many levels.

Second, people who don't believe in evolution are unenlightened. They just CHOOSE to believe otherwise, they don't base it on rational opinions. It is NOT a theory people! It is a scientific fact. To say that you don't believe in it is like denying gravity or the fact that the world is round. To claim otherwise is just plain stubborness (in my opinion - I know a lot of you will say otherwise but on this thread you have the right to be controversial right :)?)

Likewise, I find it difficult to believe that people in our time will make arguments based on organised religion. I'm not an atheist, I just don't believe you can provide an answer handily from an ancient text. Opinions MUST be formed on rational thought, not by using a book as a safety blanket (which is why chinese philosophy has always appealed more to me than the monotheistic religions).

And finally, I'm a member of a political party which used to be our nations communist party. We have changed since then (I'm merely a socialist, not a communist) but a lot of people still see it as sort of blasphemeous.

Wall of text over, I hope none of you feel too insulted, for that is not the intention. I'm merely a person who likes to discuss opinions :).
 

Underground Man

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Going to have to go with religion. I've read a lot on the subject, and I honestly can't think of even one real benefit to them. Any good thing they've ever contributed to society has been done in spite of religion, not because of it.

Also, democracy is a joke. Whose bright idea was it to let plebeians vote anyway (drat those ancient Greeks)? All they are going to to is elect fellow stupids and give themselves entitlements.
 

Baradiel

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If someone commits a crime, their punishment should be equal and fitting to the crime.

Religion holds back progress, and is an example of human weakness. It has its benefits, don't get me wrong, but it restricts the human trait of curiosity. "How was the Earth created?" "I don't know. Lets go with magic." "Shouldn't we try and apply reason and logic to this-" "MAGIC!"

If you believe something, solely because you've been told to, whether its a religion, a political theology, or something else, you are an idiot. Find the facts and make your own opinion.

Oh, and democracy never truly works.
 

Underground Man

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Baradiel said:
Religion holds back progress, and is an example of human weakness. It has its benefits, don't get me wrong, but it restricts the human trait of curiosity.
What benefits would those be? I'd be hard pressed to come up with even one that isn't just a by-product of something else that got tacked onto or exploited by religion.
 

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I believe Neo should have taken the blue pill. So what if the real world sucks? No one's complaining if everyone lives in blissful ignorance of it.
 

Baradiel

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Underground Man said:
Baradiel said:
Religion holds back progress, and is an example of human weakness. It has its benefits, don't get me wrong, but it restricts the human trait of curiosity.
What benefits would those be? I'd be hard pressed to come up with even one that isn't just a by-product of something else that got tacked onto or exploited by religion.
That was sortof an attempt to placate religious people. Personally, I think that being good and generous and overall a nice person, simply out of fear of Hell or a desire for Heaven, is incredibly corrupt and meaningless.