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ThePirateMan

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TheScientificIssole said:
ThePirateMan said:
I think religionsIslam and Christianity should fuck right off the world. Without any religious people being hurt, except for maybe the Pope, islamists and whatever other people use religion for power and/or harm.
You act like all Muslims are terrorists.
Muslims and islamists are two completely different things. An islamist is, basicly, a person who wants Islam to have political power, many of them even see Islam as a sort of political system in itself and the sharia law is something that most islamists promote. Quite simply put, an islamist is a supporter of islamic fundamentalism. A muslim is simply a member/follower/whatever of the faith Islam.
 

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No I don't think that if science were to be left alone then the worlds problems would go away, it's not that simple I honestly do understand this.

It would, (if appropriate government control was placed upon GM crops and products)help towards solving many of the hunger and disease problems in the world.

I know an example may seem like i'm desperate to find reason but hey I'll give it a shot.

say for example there was a hypothetical virus, we'll call it virus X, say on the same stage as, malaria, that had infected a westernized country with enough money to GM a bacteria, or hell even another virus.

you could, with enough time, create a hunter/killer variant of a already existing virus that will only reproduce when attacking the aforementioned hypothetical virus X, this would kill both the virus it is hunting and itself due to lack of ability to replicate without virus X.

there are a hell of a lot of things that could go wrong, both with the virus and socioeconomic factors, and yes public outcry would be horrendous, I mean who wants to know that a pharmaceutical company could literally create diseases, but I honestly think that the good factors of genetic modification far out-way the bad factors, but with the governments staunch and seemingly endless hatred of this it really doesn't seem like it will be the norm anytime soon.
I agree that in theory GM has great potential.

My problem is that GM rhetoric will promise the moon and subsequently deliver little to none because of economic considerations.

Either there is no money in a certain venture to begin with....or its more or less a one-off arrangement if the product is too effective (little revenue over time). Companies like to see their customers coming back to spend their money.

A cynical example: Suppose that a very effective CURE for cancer was ever developed. That's great for everyone....except the cancer treatment industry...whose source of revenue (all those chemo treatments/ surgical operations/ medication) will be destroyed. So they'll try to use all the influence they have to block this CURE so they can continue cashing in on treatments.

The benefits side sounds great....but the economics side is likely to fuck it over.

I don't know what government you're talking about....but it is likely to side with business (there's this practice called lobbying after all).
 

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Also, the Revival seasons of Doctor Who are better than the old ones, and Matt Smith is my favorite Doctor.
GASP! not that i don't think matt smith rocks or anything, but i still feel that you have major balls for posting that.
 

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boosh-boosh said:
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Also, the Revival seasons of Doctor Who are better than the old ones, and Matt Smith is my favorite Doctor.
GASP! not that i don't think matt smith rocks or anything, but i still feel that you have major balls for posting that.
Oh don't worry, I live in Canada and have free health care. Also, I finished my will.
 

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I largely (note largely, not completely) agree with the philosophical and moral arguments of Ayn Rand and Objectivism.

For the Escapist specifically, I'm pro-gun rights which doesn't seem to go down too well on this site. Also (and after reading some of these posts I'm sure this is going to go over so well) I feel that anyone who believes that the first or best solution to a problem requires violence, murder, or genocide is a thuggish scumbag who's destructive logic will eventually consume them.

Based off of some Escapists' viewpoints of the human race, I guess I also have the controversial opinion of thinking that the human race is fucking amazing. Seriously, we went to the goddamn moon. Let's see badgers do that. Never forget you come from a long line of truth seekers, lovers and warriors (to paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson).
 

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I feel like sexuality has more to do with gender identification early on in a child's development than it does with genetics. This just makes sense to me but every time I mention it I get dirty responses.

Also on an emotional level I see nothing wrong with incest, I believe that you can't really help who you fall in love with. The risks involved are another thing all together.

I get a little upset when people use "America is not a christian country" in an argument. To me that seems more like a line one would use to justify their life choices, and to me that just screams a lack of confidence. To say that is to disregard American history. America was settled by religious fundamentalists who sought freedom from persecution. Christianity has had an extremely large influence on our culture. The majority of the founding fathers wanted religious freedom, not a state void of religion. We've moved more towards a country where life choices are free to be made, and rightly so. Nonetheless, there it is.

Not so much controversial but any time someone says "but animals do it in nature" or something along those lines I say "You know what else animals do in nature? Eat their young." People shouldn't use nature to justify anything.
 

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Wrds said:
I get a little upset when people use "America is not a christian country" in an argument. To me that seems more like a line one would use to justify their life choices, and to me that just screams a lack of confidence. To say that is to disregard American history. America was settled by religious fundamentalists who sought freedom from persecution. Christianity has had an extremely large influence on our culture. The majority of the founding fathers wanted religious freedom, not a state void of religion. We've moved more towards a country where life choices are free to be made, and rightly so. Nonetheless, there it is.
When people say that they mean that the Founding Fathers (being deists) wished for a separation of church and state after viewing the results of both together in Europe. Specifically, Jefferson, Adams, and Franklin all discuss in their work how religion within a state poisons both the faith (by making it politically motivated, and thus neutralizing the morality of said faith) and the state's promise of religious freedom (by favouring one group, which negates the principle of an overlapping concensus of rational opinions and justice as fairness, both concepts developed early on by thinkers like Jefferson but has only been formalized recently). So yes, they did want a state completely void of religion, but they had no problem with personal and private religious and spiritual development.
 

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JoJoDeathunter said:
Sorry to pick on you in particular but I've heard this opinion several times before and I don't mean this in a glib or offensive way but if you really believe that then why are you still alive?

Disclaimer: I'm not advocating that you or anyone-else commits suicide, as that would be terrible, but I'm curious as to how you justify your own continued existance if you believe that the whole human race should be extinct.
That is a worthwhile question, I suppose ...
Think of it this way: Does a person who started smoking but then became an anti-drug activist kill himself? No. True, I do believe that humanity really doesn't deserve to be here, but that doesn't mean I'm going to kill myself; I do still enjoy life, for the most part.
I can't control my species; if I had the choice, I wouldn't be human, but as it is I make do with what I've got. Killing myself isn't going to help anything.
 

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King Toasty said:
Oh don't worry, I live in Canada and have free health care. Also, I finished my will.
Smart man. Now all you need is a pointy stick and a bomb shelter for when the Whovians come swarming.
 

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boosh-boosh said:
King Toasty said:
Oh don't worry, I live in Canada and have free health care. Also, I finished my will.
Smart man. Now all you need is a pointy stick and a bomb shelter for when the Whovians come swarming.
Oh god, Tom Baker is at my window. 0.0
 

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My controversial opinion: Some Lolita/Hentai os produced for peodophiles and those who consume it are complicit in the subjugation of children and perpetuating abuse they have inflicted upon them as it is part of a normalising and rationalising process.

Perhaps no one will quote this, perhaps people will either way its my belief not something I have any desire to discuess with people who wnat to convince me they are not playing a role in the rationalisation of peodophillia.

Another one, society can not operate with "complete/absolute freedom of speech". Complete freedom of speech is the right of a newspaper owner to publish your name, address and photo on the front of a newspaper with the decleration you rape children.

Finally a huge amount of people with "definite answers" lack the critical faculties to engage with ideas.
 

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Always take the moral high ground, by not killing anything unless you have to.
It's hard position to take sometimes, but I always take it.
And I think I'm a better person for doing so.
 

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well, im anti-religion to the point that i've argued with preist...in church! but i am against all things that hinder intelectual reason, religion just happens to be the biggest obsticle to common sense.

Im gonna get flamed for this, but i belive that everywhere the black and brown people have control over a larger populous than 50-100 people, it will most likely go to hell. Just look at South-Africa, Libya and in South-America. You have powerty, corruption, genocide, rape, child labor and a general miss-use of power. Just look at the case with Gadaffi if you don't belive me! And he isn't one in a million either.

I belive that white people have better inclanation to build and function in larger societies. Look at democracy, industry, the scientific method, philosophy, international laws of war and conflict, underground sewer systems, better adjusting to being a part of larger groups (something that wheren't normal for our early societies in Africa, we would be more likely to lash out violently when emotionaly and mentaly stressed because we wheren't designed to live like that).

It's not a coincidence!
So when it comes to that part of humanity, I belive there IS a "evolutionary" difference between the first man in Africa and the caucasian man up in the north.

Of course Im not saying that makes one supperior than the other, and I am not a rasist!
I repeat, I AM NOT A RASIST!
He said "controversial opinion", not your most mind-numbingly retarded one.

"It's not a coincidence!"

Maybe not, but not because of fucking skin colour. And do not assume that just because certain areas are in shit now means they always have been. Africa's problems meanwhile are caused by factors ranging from simple bad luck to the nature of the land they live on. Them being black has nothing to do with it.
 

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DarkenedWolfEye said:
JoJoDeathunter said:
Sorry to pick on you in particular but I've heard this opinion several times before and I don't mean this in a glib or offensive way but if you really believe that then why are you still alive?

Disclaimer: I'm not advocating that you or anyone-else commits suicide, as that would be terrible, but I'm curious as to how you justify your own continued existance if you believe that the whole human race should be extinct.
That is a worthwhile question, I suppose ...
Think of it this way: Does a person who started smoking but then became an anti-drug activist kill himself? No. True, I do believe that humanity really doesn't deserve to be here, but that doesn't mean I'm going to kill myself; I do still enjoy life, for the most part.
I can't control my species; if I had the choice, I wouldn't be human, but as it is I make do with what I've got. Killing myself isn't going to help anything.
But that comparison doesn't work, as an anti-drug activist doesn't believe that people should be dead, they believe that people shouldn't take drugs. A more apt comparison to you would be an anti-drug activist who still takes drugs anyway. Surely according to your beliefs less humans are better, so you shouldn't exist? If you personally enjoy being alive then isn't it hypocritical to want to deny others life?
 

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Woodsey said:
Your once and future Fanboy said:
well, im anti-religion to the point that i've argued with preist...in church! but i am against all things that hinder intelectual reason, religion just happens to be the biggest obsticle to common sense.

Im gonna get flamed for this, but i belive that everywhere the black and brown people have control over a larger populous than 50-100 people, it will most likely go to hell. Just look at South-Africa, Libya and in South-America. You have powerty, corruption, genocide, rape, child labor and a general miss-use of power. Just look at the case with Gadaffi if you don't belive me! And he isn't one in a million either.

I belive that white people have better inclanation to build and function in larger societies. Look at democracy, industry, the scientific method, philosophy, international laws of war and conflict, underground sewer systems, better adjusting to being a part of larger groups (something that wheren't normal for our early societies in Africa, we would be more likely to lash out violently when emotionaly and mentaly stressed because we wheren't designed to live like that).

It's not a coincidence!
So when it comes to that part of humanity, I belive there IS a "evolutionary" difference between the first man in Africa and the caucasian man up in the north.

Of course Im not saying that makes one supperior than the other, and I am not a rasist!
I repeat, I AM NOT A RASIST!
He said "controversial opinion", not your most mind-numbingly retarded one.

"It's not a coincidence!"

Maybe not, but not because of fucking skin colour. And do not assume that just because certain areas are in shit now means they always have been. Africa's problems meanwhile are caused by factors ranging from simple bad luck to the nature of the land they live on. Them being black has nothing to do with it.
you are right, i agree, thats why i specified that the areas and countries where shit and the actions of that people in that region are whats the problem. im not saying that usa for example will become a chaotic mess if obama get a second term, or if another black person becomes president.

im just saying that the worst places in the world are in these areas where those races are in control and in these regions, but the history and culture of those countries are the problem. and they havent improved the world or the evolution of humans as a big, societal creatures with new ways of thinking like democrasy, or build up the rights of people and the induvidial.

If you want to disagre with that, go down to any African or islamistic country and say that you are gay!

you'll be beaten to death before you can think "oh fuck".
 

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ThePirateMan said:
TheScientificIssole said:
ThePirateMan said:
I think religionsIslam and Christianity should fuck right off the world. Without any religious people being hurt, except for maybe the Pope, islamists and whatever other people use religion for power and/or harm.
You act like all Muslims are terrorists.
Muslims and islamists are two completely different things. An islamist is, basicly, a person who wants Islam to have political power, many of them even see Islam as a sort of political system in itself and the sharia law is something that most islamists promote. Quite simply put, an islamist is a supporter of islamic fundamentalism. A muslim is simply a member/follower/whatever of the faith Islam.
Thank you for that. Sorry if I seemed like an ignorant jerk-off.
 

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JoJoDeathunter said:
The Incredible Bulk said:
That the vast majority of the people on this fucking website are A) pricks B) liberal pricks C) conservative pricks D) complete dumbass shitholes or E) most or all of the above. Seriously though, what the fuck is wrong with you all? It's like they dumped all the morons and doey-eyed naive twats in the world into one stupid as fuck website. I'm getting banned for this, of course, thus...so long and thanks for all the fish...

Fucktard twatsuckers.
My controversial (or maybe not) opinion is that all rage-quitters are attention-seekers who try to gain a tiny bit of self-importance by rejecting a community in the most vocal way possible. Believe it or not, we Escapists can survive without the glorious and intelligent input of the Incredible Bulk.
Somehow I don't see that as being too controversial, I must say I'm worried by the fact that the rage quitter was The Incredible Bulk, if he is anything like the Hulk we should all beware.