tigermilk said:
CrystalShadow said:
tigermilk said:
CrystalShadow said:
tigermilk said:
LuckyClover95 said:
I think, 108 or something?
I don't know enough about IQ to argue for or against it, but it must be sort of important as aren't you legally classed as retarded if you get an IQ score below a certain point? 170 or something?
Wow we appear to be pretty much the only two people here who aren't a) geniuses with the world at our feet but can't be bothered to take advantage of the wonderful gift of an IQ so high one can earn large amounts of money utilising said gift.
Seriously... IQ scores don't earn you anything.
Determination is 1000 times more important than IQ results.
And whoever gave you the notion that you have 'the world at your feet' if you've got a high IQ is, to be blunt, completely delusional.
With people banding about numbers around the 170 mark at that point there are grants available and if someone has that level of aptitude for numbers and logic there is a lot of research money available (well certainly a lot more than there is for the arts/social sciences.)
Grants like that aren't based on having a high IQ.
If you have a maths/physics/whatever degree, sure.
But That's independent of IQ.
IQ is a very abstract number, and not directly useful for anything. It gets used by various groups as a prediction of how good you might be at certain intellectual tasks.
But it makes no guarantee about whether a person has any social skills, ability to commit to hard work, determination, etc.
(As I said in an edit to the message you are quoting, Ironically, because people with high IQ's can in a lot of cases do well in school without really trying, it really does make it more likely they'll learn to be lazy.
Why make a huge effort when doing the bare minimum seems to be good enough?
It's only later on, when you're much older, that you realise the negative consequences that this has, and then find yourself having to work around a lifetime of bad habits.)
Fair point about effort (I regret not working at school and only discovering education in my 20's). What I was trying to say is a large amount of people on this site appear to have IQ's close to people like Stephen Hawking. If people actually have that level of aptitude then they can go very far indeed.
I must admit I am doing my Masters Degree in film and there is next to no doctoral funding so I will be going full time in my job at the call centre or getting a second job. Consequently I have very little time for or respect for people with alleged 140 IQ's who seem to have no desire to utilise their ability (that and I am pretty sure most of the people claiming very high IQ's are either delusional, mistaken or lying.
I would be suspicious too. But, it's impossible to say either way what's going on.
To begin with, just because someone visits a site like this doesn't mean they
aren't some kind of genius, or even that they're lazy.
We could well have prominent scientists, doctors, lawyers, programmers, etc. Here, and we'd be none the wiser for it.
I know my own situation very well, but I also know nothing I can do online will allow me to prove that to anyone short of giving people personal details about me most of my friends don't even know.
Really, there's a lot of pressure on you if you're 'gifted', and your attitude exemplifies that.
"If you're a genius, why aren't you doing something amazing?"
"Don't let your talent go to waste."
Well, life just doesn't work out in such a simple way.
... It's really quite depressing knowing just how difficult it is to live up to the expectations people have of you.
Nothing I did was ever good enough for some people...
And if doing your best only elicits the response:
"You can do better. You're gifted."
Well... After a while you ask yourself what the point of it all is.
(That, and spending all your time worrying about things that are essentially unanswerable. It's enough to drive a person completely insane sometimes.)
Being gifted in some way is highly over-rated.
And what often ends up happening is that your talents in one area tend to blind everyone around you to your weaknesses in others, which makes them all the more confused when you can't cope with what they think must be easy for you.
Talent and intellect don't just vanish into thin air though. I think you'll find that 'lazy' geniuses certainly do a lot with their abilities. It's just, generally not anything the rest of society would consider very productive. (That, or they're producing things but are too scared to show it to anyone. Or, thinking up things but leaving them unfinished for lack of motivation & resources.)
Yeah, well... Whatever.