If you don't like the idea of a site full of "nerds" you could always find another forum. I'm sure there's fashion forum out there you could go to.Onjenae said:
What's Your Opinion on Supermodels ??
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because some where along the line models became household names and celebrities before the 90s there was a time when many people didnt generally know the names of any supermodels. then during the 90s models were all over tv,commercials,etc and they had fashion shows that the general public could watch for themselves wehich turned these girls into mini celebrity and increased there paychecks ten foldsOmniscientOstrich said:
these days we dont really have real models most models are actresses and singers therefore really is no supermodels
i remeber when you couldnt recognize the face on msot magazines because they were models now days every face on a magazine is a well know actress or singer
Even using the word "talent" in regards to modeling is an exaggeration. Being able to wear clothing, and walk is not a talent. Nevertheless just as you said I would treat them with the same respect which I offer any other human being.Daystar Clarion said:
this is not necessarily true people keep forgetting that marilyn monroe and alot of the oldschool hollywood beauties were mdoels back in the day and these women were pciked out by msotly straight malesKair said:
they had bigger breast,curvy hips,and nice shapes somewhere along the line that all went to shit and it wasnt that recent even the 90s models had hips and was generally not to far off from the everyday women with the exception that they was in shape.
Supermodels? Waste of a life, but as long as no one tries to force me to look at their derpy outfits or give them any of my money I couldn't care less.
Really, the fashion industry as a whole has nothing to do with reality, the general human experience, nor does it in anyway contribute to the world.
So I couldn't care less.
Really, the fashion industry as a whole has nothing to do with reality, the general human experience, nor does it in anyway contribute to the world.
So I couldn't care less.
I seem bitter because I don't regard walking as a talent? I think your trying to rationalize a belief by projecting falsity's onto those that would disagree with it. Now, in regards to your claim that not everyone can be a model, I disagree. If you have mastered the art of walking, and putting on clothes you can be a model, as no talent is required. Now, before you say "well i say you cant no look like model can" I'll say this: Maybe, maybe not, but a model can't really take credit for the features they were born with, or paid a doctor to give them. That argument still in no way suggests any kind of talent.Onjenae said:
See, that I can understand a lot more. If you're using somebody that's already famous for their achievements outside of fashion then that draws in a wider audience and greater incentive for people to try and emulate them over someone they won't recognise. And for the record, I'm not bitter towards supermodels/the whole fashion industry thingy, I'm simply indifferent. =/ Hence I don't really get what the appeal is/was with supermodels or why they got the kind of veneration they got, but hey, whatever floats your boat I suppose.Onjenae said:
Supermodels don't really do anything for me, similar to mannequins. They don't look anything like anyone I've ever known in real life, so there's nothing I can mentally connect them to in my brain. Not only that, but they generally don't do many nude photo shoots, which as we all know are readily available on the internet. I see their purpose, I just personally gain nothing from their existence.
again that is not true but like i said your a nerd and i do not mean that as an insult. nerds usually think different than most of the generally populationTheVioletBandit said:
the word talent is subjective in itself because honestly theres alot of things people do in this world that really requires not much talent and generally you would only considered it talented if you was interested or liked that particular type of work
same can be said about video games and gamers because honestly who sits around and plays video games all day ?? nad what use to the designers of video games have to societyDimitriov said:
studies show that video games,television etc have made children lazy over the years when i was growing up the kids had social lives now all they do is sit in the house nad play video gmaes all day
You have to admit it's a bit odd, organising huge glamorous shows for the industry's top talent to show off their high concept fashion when all they do afterwards is go back to selling regular clothes. Or if you are Ralph Lauren you get back to your logo stitching machine and churn another 10,000 polo shirts. Does that guy ever bring out new designs?Onjenae said:
Sure, it's nice and a spectacle and all. But seems a little... pointless if you aren't even advertising a product. It's almost like there is a disconnect between what the designers want to achieve and what they actually end up doing.
The only other industry that I'm aware of that does this is the car industry and at least their concept cars are actually driven occasionally.
I think very few supermodels are hot. For the ones that are, I oddly don't even tend to find them overly attractive anyway. It's sort of a weird too "perfect" to be real thing like they look more like dolls than actual people. Combine that with my perference for more real looking curvy girls and you get an interesting result.
Sure, I get the point of high fashion as works of art. What I don't see the point of is having these events dominated by companies that create mass-produced products.Liquidacid23 said:
Fashion is an art. Clothes are consumer goods. Consumer goods =/= Art.
It kind of depends on the type. The one's who are showing off their own designs, I support because they are helping influence the upper class designs. At the same time I feel they are insignificant as a whole due to the majority deciding on what the fashion retailers produce and make most their profit from. Some are just stagegirls who I think are just there for the money so I am split between disliking them for selling out versus admiring them for taking advantage of the insane people who fund these things.
First of all, if you are going to quote me please have the decency to write intelligibly. Anyway, if I understand you correctly, then yes there is an argument to be made there.Onjenae said:
The difference for me is that from what I have seen and read the people who pay attention to "fashion" like to pretend that it actually fucking matters, or that other people should in anyway care. Whereas your normal gamer realizes that they are buying and enjoying an entertainment product, nothing more.
Also, my main point was that fashion shows involve a bunch of wealthy people watching other people (usually very bizarre looking or even quite ugly people) walk around in derpy looking costumes (because let's face it they don't usually qualify as actual clothing) that no one else will ever wear or buy. And the entire thing ends up costing millions of dollars... why?
Now if you are simply talking about models on magazine covers wearing actual clothes, then yeah it's just somebody advertising a product. Boring. Largely unnecessary. But, whatever.
Except the fashion industry's concepts don't really suggest a new creative direction for the company. I don't need to watch every fashion show to know that colours are going to come in, and out of fashion. Because that's all the difference it seems to make in the end.Liquidacid23 said:
I have a sneaky suspicion, high street fashion is more dictated by the celebrities attending the fashion shows, than the models and designers involved in them...
It seems like a fashion show is really just a show by designers for designers... Everyone else just waits 5 months and buys whatever Vougue tells them to.