What's Your Opinion on Supermodels ??

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TheVioletBandit said:
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They're nothing more than mannequins with a pulse.
And as such, treating them as if they deserve anything, least of all your attention or consideration, is a bit idiotic.
Don't get me wrong, I'd treat them with the respect I'd treat any other human being, but I certainly wouldn't laud their 'talents'.
Even using the word "talent" in regards to modeling is an exaggeration. Being able to wear clothing, and walk is not a talent. Nevertheless just as you said I would treat them with the same respect which I offer any other human being.
I think its less about talent and more about being insane enough to fuck up your body that badly to get to their insane standards. I can honestly see it getting as cruel as the current dog show industry.

Which is disgusting.
 

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the clothes are not made to be worn by the general public *rolleyes* msot of them are jsut concept clothing and showcases of different designs the designer has come out with rarely will you see somebody in real life wearing something shown at a fashion show
You have to admit it's a bit odd, organising huge glamorous shows for the industry's top talent to show off their high concept fashion when all they do afterwards is go back to selling regular clothes. Or if you are Ralph Lauren you get back to your logo stitching machine and churn another 10,000 polo shirts. Does that guy ever bring out new designs?

Sure, it's nice and a spectacle and all. But seems a little... pointless if you aren't even advertising a product. It's almost like there is a disconnect between what the designers want to achieve and what they actually end up doing.

The only other industry that I'm aware of that does this is the car industry and at least their concept cars are actually driven occasionally.
now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of the guys responding seem to think the world revolves around what heterosexual men find attractive as a woman im glad everything doesnt pander to straight men

its get tiring seeing the fan service giving to men everywhere in commercials,books,video games etc
 

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Liquidacid23 said:
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I think a lot of it is that those "designs" are considered more a work of art than practical wear sometimes... it's like those stupid art shows where they have pieces made out of trash glued together... sure people will all come, look at it and chat about it as art but no one would ever want it in their living room
Sure, I get the point of high fashion as works of art. What I don't see the point of is having these events dominated by companies that create mass-produced products.

Fashion is an art. Clothes are consumer goods. Consumer goods =/= Art.
I dunno but if I had to guess I would have to say it's all about publicity and name recognition.. again like you said .. kinda the same deal with the concept cars
thats true

except concept cars dont really draw the same contempt models do i think msot of it comes from being told said model is attractive or and over again.


on the other hand i think most male models are very gorgeous and they do look like guys i see on the street but with better bodies, bone structure and a confidence that msot men seem to lack

i remember going to a fashion show and all the boys had six packs the ladies were in there dying so many sexy men lmaooo too bad the fashion industry doesnt pander to the almight straight male lmaooo
 

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MEH.

I really don't care one way or the other. I mean... they're pretty, I guess. The male models tend to be sexable to the eyes and I'll probably do some eye sexing when I see one. But... that's it. I suppose I probably think it's impressive you are a model especially when I watch reality shows like "America's Next Top Model" and see why people don't make it as a model.

But yeah... nothing special.
 

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They lack superpowers. And are very likely to have psychological problems, eating disorders, and drug addictions. If that's what it takes to be super, I'm so happy to be lame.
 

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Liquidacid23 said:
maybe.. but they have to be making a profit off doing it some how otherwise they wouldn't do it... they are businesses after all...

to be honest they probably make enough off of advertisements from broadcasting it and admission prices from people who just want to see those celebrities that are there or "rub noses" with them as an ego stroke to turn a profit and justify it
Hmm, not sure if profit making or circle jerking...
Onjenae said:
now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of tyhe guys responding are dumb and sound sexiest
The shows are pretty cool, and despite popular opinion, cat-walking to supermodel standards ain't no walk in the park.

Well, you asked what does everyone think of models. I have to admit, I'm having difficulty understanding what you are saying because of the way you are writing...

Are you wondering why people in this thread view models as unhealthy and accusing the industry of forcing them to look a certain way to offer what the industry thinks is pleasing to men? (an interesting debate)

Or are you wondering why people are commenting about the models appearances as women instead of as a fashion models? (As in "that model is freaky, would not bang"?)

If it's that last one, it's not sexism it's just human nature. When women read fashion magazines they look at the clothes. Men ignore the clothes and focus on the women, because most men have no interest in clothes... Well, that's what me and a female friend agreed on.

Again, asking people what they think of models is a double question since models are both women and clothes hangers... On a site predominately populated by males who by definition, usually don't care for fashion. Which by the way, has nothing to do with being a nerd or whatever it is you assume they are. It's not surprising no-one is stepping forward with an opinion about fashion itself.

And there is a negative stereotype surrounding models. Skinny, dumb, blah blah...
 

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Onjenae said:
its get tiring seeing the fan service giving to men everywhere in commercials,books,video games etc
It's tiring for men who don't objectify women too... But hey ho, sex sells right?
bullet_sandw1ch said:
oh my god he looks like commander shepard!
 

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Raven said:
Liquidacid23 said:
maybe.. but they have to be making a profit off doing it some how otherwise they wouldn't do it... they are businesses after all...

to be honest they probably make enough off of advertisements from broadcasting it and admission prices from people who just want to see those celebrities that are there or "rub noses" with them as an ego stroke to turn a profit and justify it
Hmm, not sure if profit making or circle jerking...
Onjenae said:
now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of tyhe guys responding are dumb and sound sexiest
The shows are pretty cool, and despite popular opinion, cat-walking to supermodel standards ain't no walk in the park.

Well, you asked what does everyone think of models. I have to admit, I'm having difficulty understanding what you are saying because of the way you are writing...

Are you wondering why people in this thread view models as unhealthy and accusing the industry of forcing them to look a certain way to offer what the industry thinks is pleasing to men? (an interesting debate)

Or are you wondering why people are commenting about the models appearances as women instead of as a fashion models? (As in "that model is freaky, would not bang"?)

If it's that last one, it's not sexism it's just human nature. When women read fashion magazines they look at the clothes. Men ignore the clothes and focus on the women, because most men have no interest in clothes... Well, that's what me and a female friend agreed on.

Again, asking people what they think of models is a double question since models are both women and clothes hangers... On a site predominately populated by males who by definition, usually don't care for fashion. Which by the way, has nothing to do with being a nerd or whatever it is you assume they are. It's not surprising no-one is stepping forward with an opinion about fashion itself.

And there is a negative stereotype surrounding models. Skinny, dumb, blah blah...
sorry about that i went back and edited my post lol im typing on my phone and having trouble with this touch screen lol

well men not carting for fashion depends on where you are in europe i notice the men tend to be more well put together,clean cut and overall the put more thoguht into their apperance than american males

in america when a man is clean cut and dresses nice you guys label him gay lol i dont understand that i love a well dressed man


btw yes i was wondering why the men kept talking about the model's apperance i can see if we were talking about playboy models,fhm models,video vixens,porn stars or even swimsuit models but im not i am talking about runway models so there apperance really doesnt matter

i already know a good portion of me n would bang the other set of models lol they already spend large amounts of time jacking off to their pictures
 

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Raven said:
Onjenae said:
its get tiring seeing the fan service giving to men everywhere in commercials,books,video games etc
It's tiring for men who don't objectify women too... But hey ho, sex sells right?
bullet_sandw1ch said:
oh my god he looks like commander shepard!
lmaooo thats the same person right ????

whats that mans name i want to know for research purposes ? :)
 

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Onjenae said:
sorry about that i went back and edited my post lol im typing on my phone and having trouble with this touch screen lol

well men not carting for fashion depends on where you are in europe i notice the men tend to be more well put together,clean cut and overall the put more thoguht into their apperance than american males

in america when a man is clean cut and dresses nice you guys label him gay lol i dont understand that i love a well dressed man


btw yes i was wondering why the men kept talking about the model's apperance i can see if we were talking about playboy models,fhm models,video vixens,porn stars or even swimsuit models but im not i am talking about runway models so there apperance really doesnt matter

i already know a good portion of me n would bang the other set of models lol they already spend large amounts of time jacking off to their pictures
That's okay, I struggle to do the same on mine.

I'm in the UK by the way, to give context. When I say men don't care about fashion, I meant men don't care about female fashion. Ladies didn't model men's clothes last I checked ;) Obviously we were flicking through the ladies section of a fashion magazine. I don't even have a vested interest in fashion so I couldn't tell you why. Oh wait, yeah I was looking at the women...

Men (can't say the same for boys), in the UK generally care what they look like and will often dress pretty respectably. I was in Florida last month and went out to a (really) nice bar wearing boots, smart jeans, shirt and a jacket. The local guy I went to the bar with wore the same polo shirt, baggy jeans and trainers he was wearing all day. So too were his mates and many of the other young men in the bar. I was quite surprised at that because this was a pretty exclusive bar in down-town Tampa, needed a password to get in, private booths, great cocktails, personal bartender, everything. So yeah, I can totally see where you're coming from on the young american males making little effort front.

Again, all I can really say is that men will always judge women on their appearance regardless of context. It's just what we do. Coming to this site of all places looking for meaningful discussion was never likely to be all that fruitful to be honest.

The male model I posted earlier is Mark Vanderloo, he's a pretty prolific model and quite a handsome chap I must say, even if he's getting on a bit...

 

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I think all of the fabulous gay men in the fashion industry are slowly turning the physical ideal of a woman into their physical ideal of a man.

Just sayin.
*Dramatic music cue!!!!* (Otherwise known as na-na-naaaaahhh) I do believe you are onto something. Bony masculine features, expression less faces, rail thin with almost non existent breasts, tall with long muscular legs....
 

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Onjenae said:
TheVioletBandit said:
Onjenae said:
TheVioletBandit said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Ympulse said:
Daystar Clarion said:
They're nothing more than mannequins with a pulse.
And as such, treating them as if they deserve anything, least of all your attention or consideration, is a bit idiotic.
Don't get me wrong, I'd treat them with the respect I'd treat any other human being, but I certainly wouldn't laud their 'talents'.
Even using the word "talent" in regards to modeling is an exaggeration. Being able to wear clothing, and walk is not a talent. Nevertheless just as you said I would treat them with the same respect which I offer any other human being.
well everyone cant be model and like i said you seem quite bitter and no i dont need to find a fashion forum lol
I seem bitter because I don't regard walking as a talent? I think your trying to rationalize a belief by projecting falsity's onto those that would disagree with it. Now, in regards to your claim that not everyone can be a model, I disagree. If you have mastered the art of walking, and putting on clothes you can be a model, as no talent is required. Now, before you say "well i say you cant no look like model can" I'll say this: Maybe, maybe not, but a model can't really take credit for the features they were born with, or paid a doctor to give them. That argument still in no way suggests any kind of talent.
again that is not true but like i said your a nerd and i do not mean that as an insult. nerds usually think different than most of the generally population :)

the word talent is subjective in itself because honestly theres alot of things people do in this world that really requires not much talent and generally you would only considered it talented if you was interested or liked that particular type of work
I don't consider myself a "nerd" that "thinks differently" than the rest of the public, but I do consider you saying so an insult, whether you intend it to be one or not. As for talent, I don't think it's as subjective as you might think. Talent is defined as a "special" ability, aptitude, of faculty above the average ability. If a person meets this qualification then their talented, if not then their not talented. Subjectivity may be applied to how amazing, cool, stupid, useful, useless, or whatever a talent may or may not be, but that's it. So as far as modeling goes you could say something like, I want to be a model, because I don't have the talent or intelligence to do anything else, but you would never say I want to be a model because I am so talented.
 

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They TERRIFY me.

Goddammit, have they never heard of "protein" or "plant fats" or, in many cases, "eating"?

In terms of what they do, I don't think badly of them. They don't do much onstage, but photoshoots are a hassle, as is the scheduling and process of staying in "desirable" shape.
 

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Onjenae said:
Raven said:
Onjenae said:
the clothes are not made to be worn by the general public *rolleyes* msot of them are jsut concept clothing and showcases of different designs the designer has come out with rarely will you see somebody in real life wearing something shown at a fashion show
You have to admit it's a bit odd, organising huge glamorous shows for the industry's top talent to show off their high concept fashion when all they do afterwards is go back to selling regular clothes. Or if you are Ralph Lauren you get back to your logo stitching machine and churn another 10,000 polo shirts. Does that guy ever bring out new designs?

Sure, it's nice and a spectacle and all. But seems a little... pointless if you aren't even advertising a product. It's almost like there is a disconnect between what the designers want to achieve and what they actually end up doing.

The only other industry that I'm aware of that does this is the car industry and at least their concept cars are actually driven occasionally.
now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of the guys responding seem to think the world revolves around what heterosexual men find attractive as a woman im glad everything doesnt pander to straight men

its get tiring seeing the fan service giving to men everywhere in commercials,books,video games etc
It's interesting how you see men talking about the appearance of models as annoy when just the other day you where going on about nerds being "ugly as hell" and thought that was perfectly acceptable.
 

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Onjenae said:
Neverhoodian said:
I believe Edna Mode from The Incredibles put it best:

"'Supermodels,' hah! Nothing 'super' about them! Spoiled, stupid little stick figures with poofy lips that only think about themselves."

When I see the emaciated figures of most supermodels nowadays, my first thought isn't "she's hot." Instead it's "get that girl a cheeseburger, pronto!"
i should have known the response i would get on a site full of nerds lol
I'm not sure if anyone else has called you out on this, but this seems unnecessarily derogatory considering the validity of the point made.

OT: A bizarre lifestyle choice, and not one I'd wish on anyone. Your job is to be judged on every aspect of your appearance, before being dressed up and paraded in front of the media. However, I don't understand any aspect of so-called 'high fashion', such as why none of the clothes are even remotely close to something anyone would wear, even for something like a red carpet event.
 

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TheVioletBandit said:
So as modeling goes you could say something like, I want to be a model because I don't have the talent or intelligence to do anything else, but you would never say I want to be a model because I am so talented.
Except this is completely incorrect. Great models aren't considered great because they look skinnier, prettier or wear clothes better. Think of fashion photography, the task for a model to evoke feeling from a static image is a talent. It takes hard work to achieve and even then there are thousands of girls who don't make the cut. The model has to work with the photographer, respond to his/her cues to produce the result. If you think it is all the photographers skill you would be wrong.

The same with runway modelling. It takes the same feats of self discipline, grace and rhythm required by ballet dancers, gymnasts and figure skaters. The only difference is pace...
 

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Met a few models, they were actually decent people. Fuck, two of them were doing a fashion show near where I work and came in, they were two of the very few customers I've seen that treated the retail staff like actual human beings. I think a lot of the bitterness that surrounds them, the idea that models can't be intelligent, nice people just comes from people being upset that they're attractive. It's a weird notion you seen thrown around a lot, that good looking people never have good personalities.
Thank-you!! I was reading through this thread getting super angry at all the people shaming models for being skinny and pretty. Sure eating disorders are never good, but not all models are anorexic. But anyways, most of them DO have decent personalities and some amount of intelligence.

Let's look at how the fashion industry works: designers/creative directors for magazines or what have you are the ones that hire models. And no one wants to work with a personality-less *****. They are more likely to hire someone who is pleasant and interesting! Models are usually very polite, charming, and usually very knowledgeable about the history of fashion, know multiple languages, and are in general fairly intelligent. Of course there are exceptions (ever watch America's next top model?? some girls on that show make me want to punch them repeatedly)

Also, there is nothing wrong with being thin. ALL BODIES ARE GOOD BODIES. Anorexia and bulimia suck, and the people with those disorders are suffering so let's not shame them and act like they can simply stop being anorexic/bulimic whenever they want.
 

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Not much to say here, most of them look like they're victims of concentration camps or have radiation poisoning. But I guess since they're not "fat" and have nice hair they're "hot".

I miss real women.