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SextusMaximus

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Mum and Dad are headteachers, I like good teachers, dislike bad ones, deal with average ones.

What the hell is Michael Gove doing though?
 

Hazzard

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SextusMaximus said:
What the hell is Michael Gove doing though?
My theory is that he wants to shut down all state schools by making them seem bad, and then use that money to fund private schools, which they are starting to do already.

This will result in schools being run for profit rather than education, apparently this will then mean education will be less effective. I don't understand that logic because schools will have higher budgets and will want to get the best results they can to get more funding.
 
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Hazzard said:
SextusMaximus said:
What the hell is Michael Gove doing though?
My theory is that he wants to shut down all state schools by making them seem bad, and then use that money to fund private schools, which they are starting to do already.

This will result in schools being run for profit rather than education, apparently this will then mean education will be less effective. I don't understand that logic because schools will have higher budgets and will want to get the best results they can to get more funding.
It won't mean education will be less effective, it will mean you get a better education if you have richer parents. Meaning wasting time on rich but talentless students and neglecting the education of clever but poor students.
 

teebeeohh

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terrible teacher should be shot, i had a french teacher who did the exact same things for 30 years, never once changing anything.
and good teacher should have thrones build from the corpses of bad teachers, i know a lot of people who had parents who didn't care about education and who got motivated by good teacher to be as good as they can be.

and my sister is a teacher and holds my PS3 hostage right now so i have to say this.
 

Scarim Coral

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Well for one thing, I do got to give them credit for putting up with all the bad pupils well most of them. While I do thing it their job to at least inspire the pupils to do better but some of them simply don't give a damn which I think is a bad quality to have as a teacher.
 

Bullfrog1983

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asmidir said:
The title pretty much says it all. Over the course of your education you're bound to come into contact with a variety of teachers. What sort of views have you developed regarding teachers? Do you consider it a highly regarded career? Do you respect them or do you hate them?
I want to become a teacher so my opinion is going to be a little biased.

I hated a lot of my teachers in high school growing up, I was polite to them but they treated me like one of the kids who wasn't going to make it and didn't really do a good job at explaining anything I had questions about. This is one reason why I want to be a teacher.

I only respected 2 or 3 of them due to their actual interest in teaching rather than the summer break they get every year. This I believe is the key difference between what makes a good teacher and a bad one... well that and the knowledge to actually teach a course.

They are highly regarded where I live (Canada) and I think the reputation is deserved for some of them.
 

Dom1

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I am a teacher (English and Classical Civilisation, private school) - it's really refreshing to see that so many people actually have some respect for us! It's strange, most people I meet have an appreciation of how tough the job can be (although they tend to think of it as breaking up fights rather than tedious paperwork). And yet teacher-bashing has become the favourite sport of a lot of English newspapers.
 

Yopaz

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I consider teacher as a profession a good career with a good income. It's important and I value the workd they do.

As for teachers as people I think of them like pretty much any other group of people. Some are nice, some aren't. Some are great at teaching, some suck.
 

Cyfu

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I don't know, really. I've had fun and good teachers and I've had Stupid and bad teachers.
I had a math teacher who was an asshole and now I have the most stupid Norwegian teacher. Seriously, I want to go all community on her ass, making a twitter account that's called "stuff that Vigdis says"
 

Guffe

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As with most other proffessions theachers are also only people and so my toughts vary a lot from teacher to teacher.
Some I respect a lot and like their way of teaching while some are just plain horrible.
I could, maybe, see myself as a teacher, wouldn't mind it, I like working with young people.
 

sinsfire

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asmidir said:
The title pretty much says it all. Over the course of your education you're bound to come into contact with a variety of teachers. What sort of views have you developed regarding teachers? Do you consider it a highly regarded career? Do you respect them or do you hate them?
Umm I guess I am pro teacher, this is sort of an odd question since I am an adult.

I haven't hated a teacher in many years and when I did it was because they were forcing me to learn (I know how dare they). But since I have to work now and I don't have time to teach my children grammar and the finer points of math and science, not to mention music and the arts, I am glad that there are people who are willing to be teachers.
 

Libra

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I loved my teachers. They were kind, inspirational, and always willing to extend a helping hand.

Of course, I was in a gymnasium. Basically a school for nerds.
 

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Teachers don't deserve respect. Teachers that deserve respect deserve respect. No, if you are not a respectable person, I will not respect you.
 

DudeistBelieve

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Overpaid. Not true for most of the country but true for my long island.

5000 dollars in school tax alone, and their budget goes up EVERY. FUCKING. YEAR.
 

Dollabillyall

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I've personally had a pretty bad time in the education system.
The part where it all goes wrong is when you take children who are either A: Little apes or B: just becoming sexually mature... and then telling them to sit down and listen for 6 hours. A classroom should be setup more like a "home base" from wich the children learn in and about the world around them. Experiencing things first hand is a lot more impactfull than just telling them.
Especially if their minds... are somewhere else...

That's why we need teachers and education to be a much more respected, better financed and somewhat updated field. The thing that most people in the US seem to be worried about is if schools might (accidentally or not) teach opposing religious or political views. In Europe it's more a culture of overprotection (as long as children are shielded from anything unpleasant everything is ok). Both approaches are missing the point of actually making people love what they do so much they persue a succesfull carreer in it and giving them the tools to do so.
Don't (just) teach geography off of maps.. actually show them on regular field trips. And don't just leave philosophy for a handful at a later age but engage children in some fundamental questions about life at a young age. For this we need more development than research. We need to just prune the philosophical and other questions and examples we have and see how children react to them and from how young an age we can actually teach them complicated things in a rudimentary form.
 

Hawk eye1466

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It's largely based on your experience their style and how you learn if you go into a class at least wanting to learn then you'll probably like the teacher if they aren't happy that will probably rub off on you and you'll hate the class. It's all about how you approach it and whether or not the teacher wants to do their job in a fun way or get the lesson over with as soon as possible.

The other major factor that determines whether you like a teacher or not is how the rest of the class is, I'm very good at English and god awful at math but I enjoy math more because, even though both teachers are nice, they help me and answer any questions I might have and seem to enjoy their jobs but the reason I hate going to English every day is because the rest of the class fucks around and I mean it we'll be taking a test and they'll just get up and start yelling to each other from across the room, they give that teacher no respect and I'm amazed she hasn't killed one of them. The math teacher however will have comebacks if someone says something stupid so he keeps people on topic without them realizing it.

The main point is I like teachers in fact being a teacher as a career is an idea I've had for a little while now but it's all based on them and their environment.
 

Theminimanx

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Bara_no_Hime said:
Angie7F said:
Teachers are a fall back career for people who didnt make it in the real job.
This is entirely wrong.

Teachers have to go to college as "Education Majors" to learn how to teach to children. It is an entire four-year program with certification. No one "fails" at some other job and then "falls back" on public school teacher - they have to go to college specifically for being a teacher.
I'm curious, what kind of teaching position do you have to take a four-year program for? My mother only had to take lessons for half a year before being allowed to teach. Maybe it's different in the USA than it is here in the Netherlands. Or does this have something to do with the level of education you're teaching? My mother teaches in what would be a middle/high school in America, do college professors have to learn for a longer time?
 

Easton Dark

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Theminimanx said:
Bara_no_Hime said:
Angie7F said:
Teachers are a fall back career for people who didnt make it in the real job.
This is entirely wrong.

Teachers have to go to college as "Education Majors" to learn how to teach to children. It is an entire four-year program with certification. No one "fails" at some other job and then "falls back" on public school teacher - they have to go to college specifically for being a teacher.
I'm curious, what kind of teaching position do you have to take a four-year program for? My mother only had to take lessons for half a year before being allowed to teach. Maybe it's different in the USA than it is here in the Netherlands. Or does this have something to do with the level of education you're teaching? My mother teaches in what would be a middle/high school in America, do college professors have to learn for a longer time?
I'm taking a four year program just for the basic teaching license for high school social studies classes (along with math and science qualifications).

It looks like it is different between countries. Unless your mother is a substitute teacher.

And yes, professors have to have... I want to say 6-8 years.