Come to think about it, I think she started of as substitute, and only got a permanent position a year later at a different school. Does being a substitute teacher make big a difference in education lenght?Easton Dark said:
What's Your View on Teachers
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I think the substitute teacher question varies between schools. I'm pretty sure one of my substitutes had literally no training or education on how to be a teacher. Which is fine because mostly what substitutes do is tell the kids what the teacher wanted them to do for the day and then just make sure you're working.Theminimanx said:
For other schools, substitute hirings might require a few more qualifications.
I work with a lot of teachers,
They deserve a lot more than they get, both in respect and pay. Even the bad teachers, and there are a few, for the most part have just become so totally soul crushingly disheartened with the state of education that it completely inhibits a positive learning experience.
Doesn't help that all the new money we get keeps getting put towards new ways to test, instead of new materials to learn or technology to teach with.
They deserve a lot more than they get, both in respect and pay. Even the bad teachers, and there are a few, for the most part have just become so totally soul crushingly disheartened with the state of education that it completely inhibits a positive learning experience.
Doesn't help that all the new money we get keeps getting put towards new ways to test, instead of new materials to learn or technology to teach with.
I feel sorry for a lot of teachers since the educational budget is being cut down and exams being made harder,making them much more stressed,by the looks of it.
I managed to get good teachers for my Junior cert cycle.
Our budget is pitiful,mainly in our woodowrk/metalwork classes.Our teacher has to buy tools himself,and sometimes materials,A few of us in class took pity(By that,I mean "Christ,our tools suck,I'm buying my own")And bought in our own drill bits and in some cases,bits of wood and a saw from time to time.Using cheap Chinese knock off tools and rusted british tools gets a bit annoying.
I love the way the Irish government is following the Brits and slashing our budget while making exams harder.
We opened up a fund for a private school for myself,so if the educational budget goes down the shitter,I can do my Leaving cert in a private school.
I managed to get good teachers for my Junior cert cycle.
Our budget is pitiful,mainly in our woodowrk/metalwork classes.Our teacher has to buy tools himself,and sometimes materials,A few of us in class took pity(By that,I mean "Christ,our tools suck,I'm buying my own")And bought in our own drill bits and in some cases,bits of wood and a saw from time to time.Using cheap Chinese knock off tools and rusted british tools gets a bit annoying.
I love the way the Irish government is following the Brits and slashing our budget while making exams harder.
We opened up a fund for a private school for myself,so if the educational budget goes down the shitter,I can do my Leaving cert in a private school.
I've had good experiences with my teachers so far and I'd say they're underpaid. Also that they are expected to do EVERYTHING every time, which doesn't work out for them.
But, like all professionals, when teachers are good, they are really good. When they are bad, they really stink.
But, like all professionals, when teachers are good, they are really good. When they are bad, they really stink.
There are definitely good Teachers and Bad teachers. When I think of good teacher, I think of my Grade 6 Teacher. She was nice.
When I think of Bad Teachers. I think of my Current P.E Teacher. He's douchebag.
Overall, I think most teachers are Overpaid. But there are a few, who I'd happily give a payrise to.
When I think of Bad Teachers. I think of my Current P.E Teacher. He's douchebag.
Overall, I think most teachers are Overpaid. But there are a few, who I'd happily give a payrise to.
Studying to be a teacher and I feel good reading some responses here. I do have a few gripes with the education system we have here. The system doesn't treat teachers as human, but as symbols. We have to be the example to follow 24h/7 a week/365 days per year. I don't mind being an example, but some rules take it to an extreme because some parents took it to an extreme. The teacher's association is basicly telling us to shutdown any form of social interactions with society unless it's school related.
Can't go to a pub to enjoy a beer. Can't have a smoke. Can't have a party at your place. Can't critize any decision made by the teacher's association. Can't say anything on a news paper. Can't make your opinion public. Can't...you get the picture.
My other gripe is when I see to see some of the other students trying to become teachers. Some of them aren't really smart or even interested. Some of them just want an easy A. The worst things I've heard from them were
-" Subject X doesn't have any purposes". If you're a teacher, you should be able to see a purpose for every lesson.
- I once heard "what's the purpose of knowing children's rights". I've never been so disapointed in humanity like that in my life.
Can't go to a pub to enjoy a beer. Can't have a smoke. Can't have a party at your place. Can't critize any decision made by the teacher's association. Can't say anything on a news paper. Can't make your opinion public. Can't...you get the picture.
My other gripe is when I see to see some of the other students trying to become teachers. Some of them aren't really smart or even interested. Some of them just want an easy A. The worst things I've heard from them were
-" Subject X doesn't have any purposes". If you're a teacher, you should be able to see a purpose for every lesson.
- I once heard "what's the purpose of knowing children's rights". I've never been so disapointed in humanity like that in my life.
teachers are not not payed enough, but have one of the most rewarding jobs ever: Guiding the next generation of children to become adults whom you can be proud of. Yes I plan to become a teacher.
I've gotten to the age where I can get along with my teachers. I'm actually quite chatty with some of them. Once we get a control freak idiot, and they did't last long. He was chased out of the school by older guys who were throwing water at him. Every other teacher I've had sice I was 12 is decent, as long as you don't make trouble.
It depends, if your mother has a masters degree in the field she is teaching, a one year study is enough to be allowed to teach (never heard of halve a year though). People with a masters degree are allowed to teach the upper levels/classes of high school in the Netherlands (we have different levels of difficulty in our high schools). People who only have a bachelors degree can only teach the lower classes/levels. As far as I know there are no official 6 month studies to become a teacher though.. it might have been because she did well as a substitute.. with there being a shortage of teachers in the netherlands and all.Theminimanx said:
To people saying it's a backup study, or taking a small part of a study they couldn't finish. It doesn't work like that in the netherlands at least, it's something you do after completing your masters in a specific field (again, for the higher levels).
I respect teachers who went into teaching out of a passion for wanting to be a role-model for the next generation.
I hold a wavering pity/contempt for people who chose teaching because they weren't sure what else to do: wavering toward pity if they hate it but need it to pay the bills, contempt if they blame the students.
I hold a wavering pity/contempt for people who chose teaching because they weren't sure what else to do: wavering toward pity if they hate it but need it to pay the bills, contempt if they blame the students.
My mother is a teacher. The job is slowly killing her. It's one of the worst job you can have. Low pay, underfunded, deal with parents who hate you, get no respect, hated by the public who think you're just not doing your job well and that's why test scores suck, run by politicians who have no idea how much testing sucks, and you spend a whole lot of unpaid time doing lesson plans and grading in your free time. Oh and in my state they're getting their pay cut every year too.
Of course other teachers are jerks who put zero effort into things as well... and ruin children. So you suck it sucks?
Of course other teachers are jerks who put zero effort into things as well... and ruin children. So you suck it sucks?
Undergrad College Professor: Requires a Masters degree minimum in the area of specialization. This typically takes 6-7 years of college. Teaching graduate level classes requires a Doctorate, which is 8-10 years of college.Theminimanx said:
For example, I have a Master of Fine Arts (a 7-year degree between an MA and a PhD) in English: Creative Writing, so I am qualified to teach undergraduate English and Writing classes. I am not qualified to teach graduate level classes.
Elementary, Middle, or High school teacher: Requires a Bachelors in Education. That's a 4-year degree. Additionally, a school teacher requires Teaching Certification.
Also - and anyone with additional information correct me if I'm wrong about this - most education majors don't specialize - they are taught to be able to teach any subject. Instead, they specialize in an age group - elementary, middle, or high school.
Finally, substitute teachers require less - any Bachelor's degree qualifies one to substitute teach. I tried that back before I got my master's degree. It was AWFUL.
I like most of them, and even respect some of the ones I dislike. Apart from my old Music teacher who was a terrible teacher, often picked on the students (once making a girl in my year cry due to his multiple insults), not even most of the teachers like him, and he?s just an overall jerk. I can?t believe he?s still even employed in the school. His one redeeming trait is that he can be relatively funny at times.
But most are pretty decent, and some do genuinely make an effort to engage with the students and make their lessons interesting. Like my old Science teacher, and my current A-Level English Language. But the former?s left now, which was a great shame, because he was probably the nicest guy I?ve ever met, and he was a damn good teacher who you knew cared about his students.
But most are pretty decent, and some do genuinely make an effort to engage with the students and make their lessons interesting. Like my old Science teacher, and my current A-Level English Language. But the former?s left now, which was a great shame, because he was probably the nicest guy I?ve ever met, and he was a damn good teacher who you knew cared about his students.
Eh heh... teachers specialize. Elementary teachers don't, because they need to be able to teach the basics of a wide range of subjects, right. But middle and high school teachers need to take specific courses.Bara_no_Hime said:
Me, I'm majoring in Secondary Social Studies with minors in math and science so I can be good and marketable.
I'm not going to be able to be hired to teach an english class.
I've been through grade school, high school, university, various training classes and was a trainer myself briefly.
My brothers wife is a grade school teacher as well.
That being said I think teachers themselves are often great.
They play babysitter while trying to make content tolerable within the extremely scripted confines of the greater business.
Teaching/Training isn't easy. It's fun, but it's exhausting work and frustrating because you can seldom do what you want.
I've had my share of bad teachers though and I can definitely see why people might hate them.
Several of my grade school teachers would yell at our class constantly. One even got fired eventually for throwing their chair across the room, lol.
The worst teachers are typically professors in university in my experience.
With a handful of exceptions most of them just didn't have any passion or flare.
Their styles offered nothing to help you learn beyond the knowledge to answer your questions.
My brothers wife is a grade school teacher as well.
That being said I think teachers themselves are often great.
They play babysitter while trying to make content tolerable within the extremely scripted confines of the greater business.
Teaching/Training isn't easy. It's fun, but it's exhausting work and frustrating because you can seldom do what you want.
I've had my share of bad teachers though and I can definitely see why people might hate them.
Several of my grade school teachers would yell at our class constantly. One even got fired eventually for throwing their chair across the room, lol.
The worst teachers are typically professors in university in my experience.
With a handful of exceptions most of them just didn't have any passion or flare.
Their styles offered nothing to help you learn beyond the knowledge to answer your questions.
I've been through grade school, high school, university, various training classes and was a trainer myself briefly.
My brothers wife is a grade school teacher as well.
That being said I think teachers themselves are often great.
They play babysitter while trying to make content tolerable within the extremely scripted confines of the greater business.
Teaching/Training isn't easy. It's fun, but it's exhausting work and frustrating because you can seldom do what you want.
I've had my share of bad teachers though and I can definitely see why people might hate them.
Several of my grade school teachers would yell at our class constantly. One even got fired eventually for throwing their chair across the room, lol.
The worst teachers are typically professors in university in my experience.
With a handful of exceptions most of them just didn't have any passion or flare.
Their styles offered nothing to help you learn beyond the knowledge to answer your questions.
My brothers wife is a grade school teacher as well.
That being said I think teachers themselves are often great.
They play babysitter while trying to make content tolerable within the extremely scripted confines of the greater business.
Teaching/Training isn't easy. It's fun, but it's exhausting work and frustrating because you can seldom do what you want.
I've had my share of bad teachers though and I can definitely see why people might hate them.
Several of my grade school teachers would yell at our class constantly. One even got fired eventually for throwing their chair across the room, lol.
The worst teachers are typically professors in university in my experience.
With a handful of exceptions most of them just didn't have any passion or flare.
Their styles offered nothing to help you learn beyond the knowledge to answer your questions.
It really depends on what kind of teachers you're talking about. I've seen good teachers and bad teachers. And I think teachers are a necessary part of education.
Speaking as a teacher's assistant, I've been with 50 or so students per Tuesday and Thursday. There's a trade off that has to be present in order for there to be a successful student. The teacher has to present the material, explain the material, or state the importance of the material enough so that the student outside of that discipline and that education level can understand. For some teachers it can come naturally, for others it can be very difficult, as I've learned from classes on how to teach (creating a lecture for students is extremely hard). The other part of the deal has to come from the student. The teachers I know, as well as myself, offer office hours, help room hours, and recitations to help with material and homework. And while the teacher is responsible for stating that those lifeboats and resources are available for students that are having a hard time, it's up to the student to decide whether or not he or she wants to accept and use those resources. There's a point at which the teacher cannot care more about the student, because then it definitely becomes babysitting.
Do I care about the grades of my students? Absolutely. Do I reach out my hand in offering help? Hell yes. Do the students come to me for help? That depends on them.
The good qualities that I've seen in past teachers are from my Intro to Quantum Mechanics, and Electromagnetism I and II classes:
-A well laid out plan that doesn't extend into overtime.
-Clarity such that the student at that level of education will understand the new material.
-Offers good office hours so that the student can see them.
-A friendly nature and commanding knowledge of the material.
-HW that is on a weekly basis.
The bad qualities I've seen in past teachers come from my History of Jazz class and possibly Intro to Archaeology (although that teacher wasn't so bad.)
-Not enough HW or graded assignments to keep the student invested in the material or learning the material.(HoJ)
-Lectures that seem to ramble on. (HoJ)
-Too much reading, and especially... (ItA)
-Too much reading outside of the textbook (Cosmology and ItA).
-Too fast or too slow on lectures (Cosmology Class).
-Little clarity on the material (Cosmology Class)
Some people have said that teachers are overpaid. To those of you who have said that, here's some food for thought. One of my high school physics teachers left his job to become a plumber because being a plumber had a bigger salary. Elementary through High School teachers don't get a lot of money per year. It's more than enough to keep them in the middle class, but it's definitely not a deal of being overpayed.
Speaking as a teacher's assistant, I've been with 50 or so students per Tuesday and Thursday. There's a trade off that has to be present in order for there to be a successful student. The teacher has to present the material, explain the material, or state the importance of the material enough so that the student outside of that discipline and that education level can understand. For some teachers it can come naturally, for others it can be very difficult, as I've learned from classes on how to teach (creating a lecture for students is extremely hard). The other part of the deal has to come from the student. The teachers I know, as well as myself, offer office hours, help room hours, and recitations to help with material and homework. And while the teacher is responsible for stating that those lifeboats and resources are available for students that are having a hard time, it's up to the student to decide whether or not he or she wants to accept and use those resources. There's a point at which the teacher cannot care more about the student, because then it definitely becomes babysitting.
Do I care about the grades of my students? Absolutely. Do I reach out my hand in offering help? Hell yes. Do the students come to me for help? That depends on them.
The good qualities that I've seen in past teachers are from my Intro to Quantum Mechanics, and Electromagnetism I and II classes:
-A well laid out plan that doesn't extend into overtime.
-Clarity such that the student at that level of education will understand the new material.
-Offers good office hours so that the student can see them.
-A friendly nature and commanding knowledge of the material.
-HW that is on a weekly basis.
The bad qualities I've seen in past teachers come from my History of Jazz class and possibly Intro to Archaeology (although that teacher wasn't so bad.)
-Not enough HW or graded assignments to keep the student invested in the material or learning the material.(HoJ)
-Lectures that seem to ramble on. (HoJ)
-Too much reading, and especially... (ItA)
-Too much reading outside of the textbook (Cosmology and ItA).
-Too fast or too slow on lectures (Cosmology Class).
-Little clarity on the material (Cosmology Class)
Some people have said that teachers are overpaid. To those of you who have said that, here's some food for thought. One of my high school physics teachers left his job to become a plumber because being a plumber had a bigger salary. Elementary through High School teachers don't get a lot of money per year. It's more than enough to keep them in the middle class, but it's definitely not a deal of being overpayed.