When did this become unnacceptable?

[SecondmateFlint]

I think what you said was reasonable, even though I think 9/10 is a little high (I'm in college, some girls will fling themselves at the first guy who looks at 'em). But I think what you said was intelligent and by no means offensive or worthy of being called sexist.

 

[scaevusxiii]

I don't really see how what you said was offensive. I mean, all that you said was that men needed to have a conversation with women before, as you said, "anything" would happen. So yeah, that was either a super sensitve person, or just a troll.


Off topic:

Now, let me tell you the one about the Catholic hooker.

As someone raised loosely Catholic, that actually sounds funny to me. I won't tempt any trolls by asking you to tell it, though.

 

[Eggsnham]

I was looking at a thread I had made and I got a couple quotes from someone, we got into a small discussion about prostitution and picking up women or something like that when he (I assume it's a he because his profile said so) called me a sexist, apparently I had said something sexist?

"I think that's average actually. Probably 9/10 guys have to at least make good conversation before a girl will do anything with them. And yes, paying for sex is pathetic."

I'll admit it was a crude comment that could easily be taken the wrong way, but since when is acknowledging that people need social skills to find a mate considered sexist? I never put women as a gender in a lower standard, nor did I portray them as objects. Another thing worth noting is that I never said sex directly, I said "do anything with" this could be a date, getting coffee etc.

Yes, I am pissed that this "incident" happened.

Anyways, I ask you fellow escapians, when did discussing how to get a potential mate become unacceptable? And what are things that are apparently unacceptable in this world that really pissed you?

Note: I am not attempting to troll by posting this thread.

Slightly off-topic but I have a question for you - Have you actually paid for sex? If you haven't, I'd say you have some large misconceptions about it and those who engage in it.

Before you answer, I will tell you that I have on many occassions. At one particular brothel I was such a regular, the Madam knew by sight and first name.

Now you can believe that is pathetic, that's fine - I've met a lot of people who believe that, and even ran into some blokes who said they never would, only to see them in the waiting lounge a few weeks later.

For me during those years, it was more ecnomical and expedient to do so than to waste an entire night (and considerably more money on drinks/cover charges) trying my luck to no avail. I was not intereseted in having a relationship, and did not want the bad karma of stringing poor girls along. I was also intelligent enough to understand that I wasn't the most handsome man freqenting the nightclubs. So instead I opted to hit the town with my mates, have a good time and then later drop by the knock-shop before heading back to base.

I'm going to assume that you're not from the U.S. But no, I have never paid for sex and don't intend to, I like satisfaction of knowing that I was able to get a girl (and a relationship, I would never hit n' split) purely from knowing what to say and how to say it. But I understand what your point is, and I can respect that I suppose, it's just not something I was ever really interested in. If it were legal here, I probably wouldn't be so against it as a practice, but it isn't and I have been taught that it's not to be practiced and that led to me forming negative opinions about it (although I don't find my opinions to be without logic).

 

[Eggsnham]

Spoiler: Ironically, I feel that I must warn people that are easily offended to not read my post. I ranted a lot, and one thing led to another. If you are easily offended, do not read. And if you are easily offended, what are you doing in this thread anyway?

I did not view that comment as sexist in any way. People are offended far too easily these days.

Why the fuck did it become unnacceptable to say the word "blackboard" in some places? So mentioning the word black to describe a black object is racist now? Fuck no.

Why do schools call it "last winner" now instead of loser? Go up to the kid and tell him that he lost, don't sugar coat it! How will kids ever learn to accept disappointment in life if we try so hard to protect their feelings?

Why can't teachers hit kids anymore? Assholes make up the majority of a few of my classes. The teacher can't control them, and if they refuse to listen, there's not a damn thing they can do. Of course, if the teacher layed a hand on the kid, they would be sued for sexual/physical abuse by the parents, and hordes of angry soccer moms from across the nation would petition that the teacher go to jail, for doing their damn job!

Why can't parents grow some balls and parent their children? "Hm, I don't feel like raising my kid. I know! The internet/video games/TV will raise them for me". Then when the kid develops psychological issues from parental neglect, they blame the evil video games. How dare they be exposed to children. Before you blame the games, parents, remember who fucking let the kid play them/raise them/do their job of parenting. It's fine to let 4 year olds play GTA, right? Of course!

Why is it sexist to holds a door open for women these days? It's called being polite, not sexist. And why do we insist on changing the names of everything because their sexist? Manhole? No, person-hole. Fireman? No, firefighter, even if it's a man. Who would ever have perceived that as sexist, before feminists pointed it out? Changing Santa's "ho ho ho" to "ha ha ha"? Bull. Shit. Yes, this traditional saying is endangering the rights of women everywhere, yeah right.

Basically, I'm against all of this politically correct bullshit that has propped up over the last few decades. People must be polite, but not to the point where you have to scan every action of every person for hints of racism, homophobia or bigotry. Stop worrying, everyone, and just relax. Rrsident Evil 5 is not racist. Avatar is not racist. Saying the word "black" is not racist. Calling an obese person "dangerously unhealthy" is not prejudice, it's fact. Evrybody stop being so damn sensitive.

Disclaimer- I am completely against racism, sexism, etc. and I applaud the feminist movement. I'm just talking about the people who take it to the extreme. And don't tell me how I made generalizations, I know I did. I admit there are exceptions to everything I said, so you don't need to call me out on that.

This, my friend, is a big ol' cake of truth and awesome.

 

[Deleted]

I was looking at a thread I had made and I got a couple quotes from someone, we got into a small discussion about prostitution and picking up women or something like that when he (I assume it's a he because his profile said so) called me a sexist, apparently I had said something sexist?

"I think that's average actually. Probably 9/10 guys have to at least make good conversation before a girl will do anything with them. And yes, paying for sex is pathetic."

I'll admit it was a crude comment that could easily be taken the wrong way, but since when is acknowledging that people need social skills to find a mate considered sexist? I never put women as a gender in a lower standard, nor did I portray them as objects. Another thing worth noting is that I never said sex directly, I said "do anything with" this could be a date, getting coffee etc.

Yes, I am pissed that this "incident" happened.

Anyways, I ask you fellow escapians, when did discussing how to get a potential mate become unacceptable? And what are things that are apparently unacceptable in this world that really pissed you?

Note: I am not attempting to troll by posting this thread.

they were just mad that you described the dating scene in one sentence, how you just laid out their life like that.

 

[Mikkaddo]

I was looking at a thread I had made and I got a couple quotes from someone, we got into a small discussion about prostitution and picking up women or something like that when he (I assume it's a he because his profile said so) called me a sexist, apparently I had said something sexist?

"I think that's average actually. Probably 9/10 guys have to at least make good conversation before a girl will do anything with them. And yes, paying for sex is pathetic."

I'll admit it was a crude comment that could easily be taken the wrong way, but since when is acknowledging that people need social skills to find a mate considered sexist? I never put women as a gender in a lower standard, nor did I portray them as objects. Another thing worth noting is that I never said sex directly, I said "do anything with" this could be a date, getting coffee etc.

Yes, I am pissed that this "incident" happened.

Anyways, I ask you fellow escapians, when did discussing how to get a potential mate become unacceptable? And what are things that are apparently unacceptable in this world that really pissed you?

Note: I am not attempting to troll by posting this thread.

if you used "do anything with" in place of sex, it could sound like you meant that women should pay the bill for everything not men, or both.

The common belief these days is that either the guy should still pay for everything, or that it should be a half way mark. I pay my way, you pay yours.

If you had said paying for sex is pathetic, it's a lot more specific and can't be taken as meaning something else entirely.

Frankly though, if there was a way to monitor the people being paid for, I don't think Prostitution would be quite as bad as it's made out to be . . .

one of the biggest problems with it is just like using oh say . . . pot . . . it's considered illegal, so no one will have quality control laws . . . for all you know it's got heroine, cocaine or cyanide in it. Just the same there's no quality control in prostitution, all you have to go on is the persons word that they don't have an STD . . . which when dealing with something considered that taboo . . . someone's word isn't going to go very far.

And frankly a person (guy or not) backing the idea of monitored prostitution is not wrong, I support the idea if it's employing consented adults, of all genders and races.

 

[Eggsnham]

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Slightly off-topic but I have a question for you - Have you actually paid for sex? If you haven't, I'd say you have some large misconceptions about it and those who engage in it.

Before you answer, I will tell you that I have on many occassions. At one particular brothel I was such a regular, the Madam knew by sight and first name.

Now you can believe that is pathetic, that's fine - I've met a lot of people who believe that, and even ran into some blokes who said they never would, only to see them in the waiting lounge a few weeks later.

For me during those years, it was more ecnomical and expedient to do so than to waste an entire night (and considerably more money on drinks/cover charges) trying my luck to no avail. I was not intereseted in having a relationship, and did not want the bad karma of stringing poor girls along. I was also intelligent enough to understand that I wasn't the most handsome man freqenting the nightclubs. So instead I opted to hit the town with my mates, have a good time and then later drop by the knock-shop before heading back to base.

I'm going to assume that you're not from the U.S. But no, I have never paid for sex and don't intend to, I like satisfaction of knowing that I was able to get a girl (and a relationship, I would never hit n' split) purely from knowing what to say and how to say it. But I understand what your point is, and I can respect that I suppose, it's just not something I was ever really interested in. If it were legal here, I probably wouldn't be so against it as a practice, but it isn't and I have been taught that it's not to be practiced and that led to me forming negative opinions about it (although I don't find my opinions to be without logic).

Maybe my informations old, but I thought prostitution was legal in some of your states.

Also, imo, prostitution/brothels only work if its regulated by the government, and not by organised crime or pimps. I don't know the exact figures or remember what doco it was I saw, but in it some researchers have found that in countries/communities where prostitution is legal/regulated, there are less incidences of sexual assault against women.

I understand your point about knowing how to chat up women, but imo that's a separate issue from one extreme to the other of hiring a prostitute. One is a social exercise, the other - not to be to cold about it - is the contracting of services.

But I won't deny that men who lack the gift of the gab or basic social niceties probably avail themselves more to prostitutes than other men.

I believe that prostitution is legal in Nevada. And I see your point on the government controlling it and how that would make things not so sexually oriented, and your point about men not possessing the gift of gab. The only thing I have to say is that "It is what it is" and "it" is prostitution. I'll just leave it at that considering I did a pretty good job of confusing myself (it's pretty late over here).

 

[Necrofudge]

Well, it could be possible that the other person was simply hurt at your statement (obviously lacking any social skills themselves) and turned it into a sexist accusation. But thats just a theory based on nothing.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

Well, it could be possible that the other person was simply hurt at your statement (obviously lacking any social skills themselves) and turned it into a sexist accusation. But thats just a theory based on nothing.

Hypothesis is the word you're looking for. A theory is something that has been tested and found to hold true in a large number of instances. Your postulating a reason behind someone's behavior is merely a hypothesis (unfounded idea based on a single observation).

 

[tthor]

i don't believe men and women are equal, nor do i believe either are superior. its like comparing apples and oranges

 

[Double A]

Only being stupid is unacceptable.

And in this case, the offender wasn't you. Don't take it too hard, idiots annoy everyone every once in a while.

 

[Mr. Gency]

I really don't care about your petty internet fueds.

just do what I would in a situation like that and not post anything

 

[Georgie_Leech]

You know, I have to laugh that everyone isntantly assumes that the other guy meant sexist against women. It does work both ways.

OT: I miss being able to tell/laugh at dumb blonde jokes. I always figured being blonde, I didn't have to worry that it was so offensive. For that matter, I wish that political correctness wasn't so prevalent.