When Do You Declare Victory?

[Krantos]

I don't.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no point to arguing, especially online. The other person will never admit to being wrong and the only you accomplish is to raise your blood pressure.

And I hate when people think they've won when the other person walks away (figuratively speaking, online anyway). Typically the other person leaving just means that they've realized the argument is pointless.

Here's a great example: I was on a forum one time and someone brought up Subliminal Messaging. Now, having been a psych major before I switched to IT, I know quite a bit about the subject, most particularly that it does not work, contrary to what people think. The reason being that, while you're mind may register something that you're not aware of (i.e. images that flash too quick to consciously see) thus evoking momentary biological response, you must actually be aware and attentive to something in order for it to pass into long term memory, so things you are not aware of never make it beyond Short term memory.

Anyway, I made that argument to the people on the forum. Their response? To post a YouTube video of a TV show host supposedly using subliminal messages on someone. I thought for a while that the more intelligent people would call them out on it, but, like I should have expected, they all fell in saying that the video proved I was wrong.

Now, I could have done some searching, using my university's Scholarly journal engine, to find actual studies that have been done on the matter, but I decided it wasn't worth my time.

Can you honestly say I lost the argument just because I walked away because proving my point wasn't worth the hassle?

I don't think so.

 

[Deadlock Radium]

Online:
I generaly believe I won the arguement if the otehr leaves the game / party or mutes me.

In RL:
If instead of replying the give a loud sigh or they begin to get violent.

Those. And I often tend to annoy them a little more by giving them a super lame grin.

 

[Pandalisk]

When i have Crushed their soul in my virtual Iron Grasp, only the Total destrution of the mans Sanity and ability for coherent thought is a Victory.

 

[etherlance]

* When the other person breaks down into swearing and insults rather than a valid point.
* Whenever a person brings the topic of hitler and/or nazi's they lose an arguement.
* Whenever the other dude just keeps repeating him/herself over and over.
* When the person cannot take five minutes to fully spell out their arguement.
* When the person is just plainly full of shit and doesn't even realise it.

* When the other person simply starts an arguement they lose because I never start them....I just finish them!

These are a few of the ways that I know when I have won the arguement.

 

[Chogg Van Helsing]

well i have the annoying habbit of making sure im right before i argue, so i generally win and can combat any points they make instantly lol.

ppl say i have a 'im always right' attitude, but thats coz i generally am lmao, ppl just dont like it :/

so when the argument goes in circles, or they strart being violent or dismisive, i count that as me winning

 

[Chogg Van Helsing]

I don't.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no point to arguing, especially online. The other person will never admit to being wrong and the only you accomplish is to raise your blood pressure.

And I hate when people think they've won when the other person walks away (figuratively speaking, online anyway). Typically the other person leaving just means that they've realized the argument is pointless.

Here's a great example: I was on a forum one time and someone brought up Subliminal Messaging. Now, having been a psych major before I switched to IT, I know quite a bit about the subject, most particularly that it does not work, contrary to what people think. The reason being that, while you're mind may register something that you're not aware of (i.e. images that flash too quick to consciously see) thus evoking momentary biological response, you must actually be aware and attentive to something in order for it to pass into long term memory, so things you are not aware of never make it beyond Short term memory.

Anyway, I made that argument to the people on the forum. Their response? To post a YouTube video of a TV show host supposedly using subliminal messages on someone. I thought for a while that the more intelligent people would call them out on it, but, like I should have expected, they all fell in saying that the video proved I was wrong.

Now, I could have done some searching, using my university's Scholarly journal engine, to find actual studies that have been done on the matter, but I decided it wasn't worth my time.

Can you honestly say I lost the argument just because I walked away because proving my point wasn't worth the hassle?

I don't think so.

i get your point on that tbh

ppl might think i do that, (not what you done, what the others do), but if im in an argument, i make sure i know im right to begin with. its a sure shock way of winning. and if im proved wrong, i accept it lol. i have the amazing gift to be able to argue against my self, as if i was another person, so i realise all my flaws etc, and can use that to my advantage. cant u tell i like to win? lmao