When it Rains in Minecraft 1.5, It Snows

[Tharwen]

Snow and rain have been in Minecraft for a while now.

Rain was first put in by Notch as a tech test ages ago (but never actually implemented), and if you generated a snowy map before the 1.2 biome update, snow fell on the entire thing.

Now we just need him to make snow always fall above the cloudline, so we can have snowy peaks with epic lava-castles on them.

Actually, that's quite a good idea.

Ooh! Maybe later down the road we can have seasons, (each lasting maybe a dozen Minecraft days or so) where trees blossom and later the leaves fall off and snow starts falling!

This is slightly unrelated, but I saw a mod on the minecraft forums today which made trees and plants reproduce so forests would spread out and regrow. Maybe that could be combined with all these other ideas later in development (but first I think we need some game balancing and better development techniques from Mojang).

 

[Internet Kraken]

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Why are you trying to debate me over something we're in agreement on? You merely misinterpreted my post. That's it. I don't get why your writing a long winded response and telling me that I said something I didn't.

Seriously, you're grossly misinterpreting everything I said. Don't put words in my mouth.

And so long as you're getting a little overdefensive at me for pointing out the not-at-all-subtle "this showering of attention is unfair" undertone in your posts, why are bring up DF at all?

This thread is about Minecraft. DF is really not even remotely like Minecraft in any real way.
Posting all that update about the Caravan Arc is really a gigantic nonsequitor, isn't it?
You may as well have brought up the new Monopoly movie by Ridley Scott, it is exactly as relevant in this thread as DF.

I mean, if you're that annoyed at the dearth of DF information on this site, why not make your own threads in which you keep us all updated on new DF developments?

This is ridiculous. I don't get what you're trying to accomplish here, since we said the same thing. You just misinterpreted what I said. Which is probably my fault due to way I phrased the original post. But what I don't get why despite knowing that you still insist that I was saying something else.

As for why I used DF as an example, well it's just the first thing that came to mind. Probably because I was writing an update for my DF LP when I made that post. It was just an example of to show that it doesn't matter how much your adding to the game when a news post is made, but rather how popular the game is on the sight.

I don't get what your problem is.

 

[Angus565]

Lightning and wind would be kick-ass...
Imagine watching entire environments be changed by tornadoes! Forests burned down as you watch from the window of your mountain-top castle...
ahem... Sorry I got a bit carried away.

 

[Lord Devius]

because of biomes. can't have it snowing in deserts, now can we.

Well, you could, it would just be really weird.

 

[Niccolo]

The Escapist has a Minecraft obsession. Every little thing added to the game must be covered by the news even before it's released. So Toady can add all of this to Dwarf Fortress

-SNIP-

And never get a single mention, but the second Minecraft adds something trivial like beds it gets showered with attention.

This.

I love me some Dwarf Fortress... I guess Escapist are just intimidated by the sheer level of work Toady will do in one 0.01 release of his game?

 

[sunpop]

What about lava rain to purge the heathens by fire?

What about 'lava rain' sounds like something you'd like to have happen to you?
just curious here but what?

Lava rain would be awesome in minecraft it would teach those punks who build out of wood.

 

[WingedFortress]

Oh, Notch put weather back in? Or...hes going to?

Someone wake me when the Lanterns happen.

 

[Shjade]

Minecraft's monstrous inaccessibility is not remotely confined to its graphics.

At all.

In any way.

I have to assume this is a mistake and you meant to say one of two things:

1 - Minecraft's monstrous accessibility is not remotely confined to its graphics.

2 - Dwarf Fortress's monstrous inaccessibility is not remotely confined to its graphics.

If you intended to say 1, I have to disagree. Low graphic requirements mean broad audiences in terms of what hardware can run the game at reasonable speeds, and if Minecraft were rendered in ASCII I guarantee its audience would be considerably smaller than what it is now. The gameplay is heavily reliant upon its graphical presentation. The game's accessibility may not be entirely "confined" to its graphics (I suspect you meant to say "related" there, but I'll work with what you gave me), but the way the game is presented plays a major role in its popularity, including the modifiable nature of that presentation.

If you intended to say 2, again, I have to disagree. If Dwarf Fortress were rendered in a way you could interpret as you do Minecraft - say as a noclipping observer swooping around the landscape to observe the goings-on of your various dwarves and the creatures and landscape around them - it would be exponentially easier for new players to have some idea of what is going on in the game at a glance. As it is now I literally cannot interpret geography or action by looking at screenshots - or even video - of Dwarf Fortress being played, and I grew up with MUDs. If I don't have a key beside the monitor detailing the definitions of each symbol on the screen I have no chance of knowing what's what beyond the very basics: those are dwarves, that's grass...that's about all I know.

Both games' popularity are heavily impacted by their visuals. You're fooling yourself to think otherwise.

Where I fall on the spectrum: tried DF for three days before I surrendered and gave up on it. Played MC for a few weeks before I got bored with it and irritated by the cycle of finding neat mods, having them broken by an update, waiting for them to catch up with the update, being broken by the next update, etc. I don't particularly care much about either at this point. I see this post about 1.5 coming up and my first thought is, "Great, now the texture packs are going to be mussed again." Not encouraging.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

minecraft really needs to switch to the dwarf fortress liquid level system, the whole infinite liquid cube thing is totally immersion breaking

 

[infohippie]

...Minecraft is the perky, hot, accessible little sister who is a fraction as difficult to figure out but no less satisfying to get into.

That simile is a little bit worrying, to be honest. Does anyone else have a hot little sister who's satisfying to get into?

 

[thefanciestfish]

Massive amounts of butt hurt

I Love the smell of flame war in the morning.

Honestly you guy this is ridiculous. Show some class.

 

[Abedeus]

Actually, sight of a "wall of rain" is pretty easy to look at. Just pick a good observation spot and you can see a cloud just dropping a wall of liquid over an area.

 

[the1ultimate]

Awesome, I have been waiting ages for this.

I even looked up that rain mod, but given that it wasn't perfect, and the presence of the rain texture in the texture files meant that it probably was getting added back, I decided to wait.

 

[PH3NOmenon]

DF is the smarter, more complex big brother who spends years perfecting works of art by himself in the basement, whereas Minecraft is the perky, hot, accessible little sister who is a fraction as difficult to figure out but no less satisfying to get into.

Oh gods, I chuckled out loud at this one.

Well done good sir, well done.

 

[MGlBlaze]

That's nice but I'm more interesting in when they're going to bother fixing half the shit they've put in, instead of adding more broken systems.

You realise the game is still a Beta...

 

[jpoon]

Sweet, I am excite for this update!

 

[Uszi]

On topic:
I'm really excited about weather. I kind of have a love/hate relationship with snow biomes. I love the way they look and feel when you play in them, but I hate the fact that snow/ice never recovers.

Be glad to see that feature coming back.

because of biomes. can't have it snowing in deserts, now can we.

Well, you could, it would just be really weird.

Actually, the term desert doesn't necessarily denote a sandy, hot climate. Rather, it denotes a climate that recieves extremely little percipitation every year.

The largest desert in the world is in Antarctica. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert]

The more you know!