When play feels like work.
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Mafia II. Average cover based shootouts are the best this game gets. The rest of the time, you're either sitting in traffic, participating in melee brawls with your incredible set of 3 moves, or doing whatever druge work the game cooks up for you. Like in chapter 6 it made me clean toilets. Chapter 7 had me chaperoning 2 drunk guys with my radio hijacked, chapter 8 had me doing cigarette inventory, I'm sure there's more drugery after chapter 10 part 2, and chapter 3 had me driving to gas stations to sell them stolen stamps. And before that "Exciting" driving section, chapter 3 made me load crates onto a truck. I mean, I know you only have to load one, but he walks so painfully slow I might as well have to load the rest.
Chapter 1 stole an italy level from call of duty, and it's the best level in the game. Do not buy this game if you like GTA or Saints Row.
Chapter 1 stole an italy level from call of duty, and it's the best level in the game. Do not buy this game if you like GTA or Saints Row.
Every mmorpg I've played that felt like I was chasing a carrot on stick doing something a macro program could do.
And it made me wonder what the game's manufacturers think of me, to feel that kind of thing was a game.
And it made me wonder what the game's manufacturers think of me, to feel that kind of thing was a game.
Final Fantasy III DS did that for me. The grind was crushing. I've sold it without completing it.
I've also had a job that felt like a game. When I was a student I once got a holiday job of helping clean out the offices of our then recently defunct national airline company. We got to throw computers and other machinery in hugely deep containers. We made a game out of it to make them crash as spectacularly as possible and graded each other for it. It was infinitely more fun than Final Fantasy III DS.
CAPTCHA: "one hit wonder". Well yes, Captcha, that job certainly was. Guys, is this thing going sentient? I'm scared.
I've also had a job that felt like a game. When I was a student I once got a holiday job of helping clean out the offices of our then recently defunct national airline company. We got to throw computers and other machinery in hugely deep containers. We made a game out of it to make them crash as spectacularly as possible and graded each other for it. It was infinitely more fun than Final Fantasy III DS.
CAPTCHA: "one hit wonder". Well yes, Captcha, that job certainly was. Guys, is this thing going sentient? I'm scared.
Yeah, mining in mass affect 2 sucked.
In single Player Red Dead Redemption, those "challenges", especially the flower gathering ones were pretty bad. I really wanted the coat you get for completing all the challenges, but I think you should get a reward inbetween them if I make sense.
In single Player Red Dead Redemption, those "challenges", especially the flower gathering ones were pretty bad. I really wanted the coat you get for completing all the challenges, but I think you should get a reward inbetween them if I make sense.
I've played for that long semi-casually and have experienced most of the endgame content. I have never had to rework my life to play the game and can get by without spending weeks farming. I just don't understand why people subject themselves to playing like that and say "Wow destroyed my life! Game is so grindy! All Wow's fault!".Z of the Na said:
My bullshit detector just goes berserk.
You sound like a pretty casual wotlk/cata type of player, wish i'd seen you experience any endgame content back in BC or vanilla without farming. I'm not just talking about rose tinted glasses, it really was like that back then nowadays you get everything on a plate and they even award an achi for being a retard.Don Savik said:
But ye wow is kind of a job like game, i wasn't into PvE since it's super boring and easy, but even logging on to do some arenas felt more like a chore than me enjoying after wotlk came out. I still don't understand how can anyone play this boring game anymore
For me it's the Open World-stuff Rockstar throws out. I just don't find anything enjoyable in traveling long distances for a mission. Needless to say I feel the pacing in their games is terrible because of this. I've been playing 'GTA 4' and 'Red Dead Redemption' since their launch and haven't been able to finish either one.
The last one was SW:TOR.
I never graduated form the WoW school of grinding so the the gear treadmill and daily quests felt like and abomination to me:
"Man I really need those rakata implants for operations but I already did these quests like 30 times, why can't I have some fun?"
Then I finished all the (two) end game operations...then I had to grind pvp for gear...then I rerolled a char for more grind...then I finally realised that the game actually stopped being fun when I reached lv 50.
In retrospect, everything I did beyond that point was more akin to a daily job than a video game.
I never graduated form the WoW school of grinding so the the gear treadmill and daily quests felt like and abomination to me:
"Man I really need those rakata implants for operations but I already did these quests like 30 times, why can't I have some fun?"
Then I finished all the (two) end game operations...then I had to grind pvp for gear...then I rerolled a char for more grind...then I finally realised that the game actually stopped being fun when I reached lv 50.
In retrospect, everything I did beyond that point was more akin to a daily job than a video game.
Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon, especially Back To Nature.
In Animal Crossing once you've paid your debt back and done everything, the game becomes more of a toy than...well a game.
In Back To Nature, once you have the max number of animals and a sizeable crop space to harvest, by the time you are done just with everyday stuff, it's 3 in the afternoon.
In Animal Crossing once you've paid your debt back and done everything, the game becomes more of a toy than...well a game.
In Back To Nature, once you have the max number of animals and a sizeable crop space to harvest, by the time you are done just with everyday stuff, it's 3 in the afternoon.
Skyrim, but only when I got that f***ing stupid bug where I was stuck halfway between the main quest and the damn liberation quest and couldn't make a ceasefire. So once I'd done so many Imperial quests i got sick of it and haven't played the game since.
Another one was MGS4, I had a fun playthrough where I did whatever, then one that was no alerts, no kills sort of deal to get all the really good stuff, but by then I was too jaded to bother using any of it. I fired like one round of the Tanegashima and moved on to another game.
Another one was MGS4, I had a fun playthrough where I did whatever, then one that was no alerts, no kills sort of deal to get all the really good stuff, but by then I was too jaded to bother using any of it. I fired like one round of the Tanegashima and moved on to another game.
There comes a point when after playing a game for six freaking years that it becomes somehow tedious and samey, believe it or not.Don Savik said:
If you're still having fun with it, more power to you. I however, have moved on.
Yeah, I never got the point of that series. I played religiously for like two weeks, but then....Scarim Coral said:
Runescape and COD.
Runescape is just xp grinding. If was a fun little thing to have on the 2nd monitor while working but I got bored after a few months.
COD, jesus christ. MW1 and WaW were fun. You fought and you earned your prizes. However once you prestige, thats it. Oh you can do it all over again for a shinier badge. Still got my moneys worth of fun tho.
MW2 onwards though...
"Have a new gun!"
"Hey you killed a guy! Have another new gun!"
IT's like giving a peanut to a chimp every time it scratches its arse.
Runescape is just xp grinding. If was a fun little thing to have on the 2nd monitor while working but I got bored after a few months.
COD, jesus christ. MW1 and WaW were fun. You fought and you earned your prizes. However once you prestige, thats it. Oh you can do it all over again for a shinier badge. Still got my moneys worth of fun tho.
MW2 onwards though...
"Have a new gun!"
"Hey you killed a guy! Have another new gun!"
IT's like giving a peanut to a chimp every time it scratches its arse.
Even Vanilla WoW was like a walk in the park compared to some of the older Korean MMO's I used to play. ROSE Online that was a grind. If I recall correctly, it took 1.5 years for the first player to hit the 255 level cap.Schmeiser said:You sound like a pretty casual wotlk/cata type of player, wish i'd seen you experience any endgame content back in BC or vanilla without farming. I'm not just talking about rose tinted glasses, it really was like that back then nowadays you get everything on a plate and they even award an achi for being a retard.Don Savik said:
But ye wow is kind of a job like game, i wasn't into PvE since it's super boring and easy, but even logging on to do some arenas felt more like a chore than me enjoying after wotlk came out. I still don't understand how can anyone play this boring game anymore
What about everquest? If you die you loose like a weeks worth of progress in experience. Or Ultima Online? You and your party emerge from the boss lair with a bunch of loot and badly beaten up, only to be jumped by other players who then steal your stuff