When there's a tragedy there's also "those people"

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Vault101

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manic_depressive13 said:
Sure, but it's your right to say it.
I guess but it would still make me seem like a real ass...especially if in an inapropriate context
 

Zakarath

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I don't really care that much about particular events like this one, if only because "20 dead in suicide bomb" is a sadly regular headline you see on page 3 of the paper when it happens in some middle eastern country, but suddenly it's huge news when it happens here in America. Just appears to be a sort of selfish arrogance that seems to proclaim that lives here have more value. And there's just so many of these occurences that if you let them all get their claws into you, you'll get torn apart. As to 'those people', I may not be one with them, but whatever. That's the thing about the human race; it has all types.
 

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Probably already been said, but people act that way for attention or because they actually don't care, and are emotionally detached enough to not realize what they're saying is rather cruel. Do everyone a favor and stop talking about them.
 

Vault101

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Magenera said:
its called having tact,mabye its pointless to expect it on an internet forum...but in real like there are times when you say nothing, because bo one wants to hear your opinion

you (hopefully) don't go around saying such things in real life (in certain contexts that is) but even online I still question somone who has to show us all what en edgy hardass they are because they say they don't care when children get murdered

also just because tradgeys happen all the time does not devalue any given tradgedy, by that logic we should not care about ANY tradgedy because chances are theres 10 worse going on the exact same moment
 

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I prefer people who are honest over people who pretend to care.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that the people who don't really care (this includes myself) post those things just to oppose to the people who act like they really care.

The truth is, most of us don't -really- care, but we think we're supposed to.
except they aren't being honest. they're pretending not to care when really they're champing at the bit to demonstrate what a cold, emotionless badass they are. they're giddy about the opportunity to exploit a tragedy for their own self-aggrandizement at the expense of people who are capable of actual empathy.

If you think someone is being insincere about it, then go ahead and call them out if you can prove it. But let's dispense with all this "i don't care" nonsense. the people who actually don't care wouldn't have bothered commenting.
There's a problem on the other side too, the people who make the Facebook pages with stuff like "Like this if you feel bad about (insert tragedy here), and go off the handle at people who dont feel that strongly about it.

I feel bad sure about the shooting that happened recently, its a horrible tragedy, but I dont feel the need to announce to the world how I feel so bad for the kids and the family and yadda yadda. Those kinds of people are just as bad as the ones trying to seem edgy and cool, but they're looking for attention and trying to show off just what a good person they are. It's not necessary, on either end
 

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Still not as bad as the "omg dey die 1 like= 100 prayers and 1 share = da killr die in hell 5eva" people. I think that's part of the problem. There are idiots about who have no idea about what has really happened and they only exist on the far edges of the spectrum, being either one of the people I'm talking about or one of those that you are talking about. So the morons showing a ridiculous amount of care are either attention whoring or supremely childish, and in response we get assholes who want to be edgy just to piss of the previously mentioned retards... by acting like retards themselves.
 

Vault101

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FelixG said:
Careful there Vault

Dont want to go callin people motherfuckers when you have only one warning left on the site.
I figured it was indirect enough (and I actually wasn't even to imply I was calling him that) but yeah...editied, better to be safe
 

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doggie015 said:
Here's a good suggestion which will solve your problems: IGNORE THEM. If you pay no attention then they will stop screaming "LOOK AT ME!!!1!1!!!" and "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!1!1!!!"
Good advice. The morons who have posted that seem to actually take pride in their lack of empathy or have gone so far as to say they find this whole incident to be "amusing" are worthy of as much of our attention as the Westboro Baptist Church.
 

Vault101

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RedDeadFred said:
Thank you for making this thread. I've thought about making one like this for a while but always thought there'd be a lot of back lash. .
I'm quite happy that the thread didn't totally backfire and I'm not the only one who feels that way, but I did expcet alot of backlash
 

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Oh for fucks sake, what does saying these things even accomplish? If they are so apathetic and don't care, why reply? Just ignore it and move on like any other person.
 

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Well, all we need to do is show them the same respect they show others, and don't give a single fuck when their heads get bashed in with a rock. You act like this and you end up like that asshole wrestling manager in the first Spider-Man movie.
 
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Vault101 said:
am I over-reacting? what do you think?
Yes. This is The Escapist's equivalent of people getting angry for posting on Facebook statuses; "Did I ask you to comment? No, so GTFO!!!"

Instead of this thread you can ignore the people that post like that and not give them their rise. I posted something along those lines in the thread, people seemed more concerned for looking sympathetic than they were for what actually happened to the kids. They danced around the issue with their circle jerk of morals, as you so beautifully put it (no sarcasm here, that gave me funnies), when they could and should have been turning around and saying "hold up, this really needs to never happen again, what can we do guys?" and then actually doing it.

Point being, these people are 2edgy4you but it is about time we did stop commenting on how tragic it is and then forgetting about it a few days later with no improvement or progression.
 

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It's a backlash that is similar to the whole 'fake nerd girl' debacle. Attention parasites.

In the same way that the fake nerd girl thing is a majority of "nerds" being disgruntled with a select few females combining their gender with "tacked on" gaming peripherals in pictures as (an often tasteless) sexual-attention smart-bombs directed squarely at their demographic. Nerd culture has become a massive driving force, and the average ?nerd? is now far tamer than the 1990s stereotype. There?s a whole new demographic for attention parasites to latch on to.

The "I don't care." crowd is probably the reaction towards the constant bombardment of (often tasteless) attention being thrown at the shootings. The self-gratifying facebook tributes, the scrambling for "likes" or "shares" or "upvotes" to their posts in their feeds and the sensationalist media pulling every trick they can for higher ratings. Suddenly there?s a major event that just tugs at everyone?s heartstrings for the attention parasites to dig their latches into and suck dry.

The attention parasites. Trailing in the wake of a terrible tragedy that, one would hope given the United States constant self-proclaimed status as the beacon of democracy and freedom in the modern world, should be the last place on Earth such events occur.

I guess I should quantify with my own stance before accusations of being a malcontent or incapable of empathy emerge. Children being killed is the most horrible thing, society as a whole can agree on this and I doubt any nation no matter their culture or religion would disagree. The ultimate tragedy is the amount of wealth and resources the United States has, yet the political quagmire there prevents legislation being passed or systems put in place to protect that which the nation with the highest military spending in the world values most - its own children.

All because people are just so STARVED for attention there. So starved they'll seek to increase this small electronic counter by sucking at the teat of a tragic event or by creating the event in the first place, inspired by the terrible cycle of media sensationalism and over-exposure the previous events had.

Keeping up with the Joneses is reaching a most terrible precipice.
 

Strazdas

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Father Time said:
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Father Time said:
As if people need firearms to commit mass murder.
You know firearms have been used for self defense.
on the same day there was attack in China. Im sure it has gotten quickly forgotten because "hey white kids dieing are more important right?". the difference is, the chinese guy didnt have acess to a gun, so he used a knife. result? 0 dead, 22 kids wounded.

free access to firearms make mass murder easy. it should not be made easy.
Mass murder can and has been committed in America with explosives and non-guns.

You want to talk about one knifing where no one died I can point to a lot of them where have died, and instance of people using a gun to stop an attack.

But like I said this is assuming they couldn't just get guns from the black market.
the point is about making mass murder hard, not about "one guy managed to do it so its impossible to prevent"
 

Vault101

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Strazdas said:
frankly... half of your posts seems to be around your own moral superiority.....
you call it moral supirority..I call it calling out dickish behaviour
 

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I wouldn't say over-reacting, but most should just be ignored since it's a small troll attempt or them trying and get some attention. If they do go over board, then it should be reportable. Still best not to respond I reckon, because we all know that it will always be around so unless you can actually teach that person something, it's a waste of time.
 

Strazdas

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Vault101 said:
Strazdas said:
frankly... half of your posts seems to be around your own moral superiority.....
you call it moral supirority..I call it calling out dickish behaviour
maybe you misunderstood me, but you just called your own posts "dickish behaviuor"....
 
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People who advertise their apathy aren't really apathetic.

Those people are either trying to troll and make you angry, or they are finding humor is what they are saying and they're laughing regardless of what you may think. Either way, they succeeded.

So yes. You're overreacting.
 

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Vault101 said:
I guess but it would still make me seem like a real ass...especially if in an inapropriate context
So what? If you say "how sad!" and vote for liberal/labor you're still supporting a war that kills children, so those are just empty words. I'd prefer someone who says "big deal, happens all the time" but doesn't support a regime that propagates murder, than someone who carries on about how sad it is while not taking any steps to prevent it. I guess what I'm saying is that it's your actions, not your words that make you an ass. Saying "I don't care" to something that can't be changed doesn't make you an ass. Saying "I don't care" to something that can be changed, does. And saying "HOW AWFUL" and doing absolutely nothing about it makes you the biggest ass of all in my eyes.
 

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Yeah those people annoyed me. I mean there are people who are genuie sad at the tragedy and they have to be so unsympathetic about it. Geez show some compassion or sympathic your heartless git. If you got nothing nice to say at all then say nothing! I ain't weeping by the recent event but I know full well that it is a sad event to had happen and people are sad about it.

Heck I bet the OP would of rage alot when this username "Eico" was around (type her name in the username search to see her past comments).