When will it be a "final" Final Fantasy?

[Alexious]

Why are you so bothered? Its not like Square forces you to buy their games when they are released. It feels like your complaining for the sake of it.

 

[Jewpacabra]

Why are you so bothered? Its not like Square forces you to buy their games when they are released. It feels like your complaining for the sake of it.

This is what i was afraid of. I didnt know what better way to phrase it, (i'm in Aus, i haven't slept in about 2 days and it's 3 am over here) but i was just wondering what would happen if Square devoted the same amount of attention to it's other games as it does the Final Fantasy ones.

 

[Jewpacabra]

Whoa whoa whoa...are you telling me that you thought Chrono Trigger sucked?

I'm sorry, having never played it, i can't say ye or nay for how good chrono trigger is, although i have been trying to get my hands on it. I may be a little hasty with some of my comments, and from what i have heard, the chrono series, trigger or cross, are good. i am actually looking forward to getting them, and i hope all of you know, generally when i make a retarded comment like that its cos im not thinking clearly

 

[CoverYourHead]

It's called Final Fantasy because Square was going bankrupt at the time and this was their last game they planned to make, only to have it be a huge success, lucky bastards.

I don't like the FF games, but if they sell I don't see a reason that Square should stop making them.

hmmm . . . That kinda sounds pulled outta your ass. Is that a joke I didnt get or someting? If not, where did you here that?

Heard it from the guys at Square themselves on a G4 special on Final Fantasy.

 

[MB202]

It will end when Mario ends; that is, the end of video games in general.

 

[ultimasupersaiyan]

I'm slightly annoyed at Square. After all these years all they can seem to do is create more Final Fantasy games, despite the fact that there even being a second Final Fantasy game screwed with the notion presented in the word "final", changing it from the end, or completion of something to mean "the last one unless it sells good" oh, there have been other games, but most of them have been spin offs of Final Fantasy games, and the rest have sucked. I'm just wondering if i'm the only person in internet land who thinks that its time to put it to an end, or am i just mad cos Final Fantasy 12 wasn't that great?

If you ever had a decent look at the history of Final Fantasy you'd know that it was originally suppose to be the last game Squaresoft ever made but it's popularity kept the company from going under. Also I don't think Final Fantasy should die, Just give Final Fantasy back to Mistwalker's Hironobu Sakaguchi because while he worked on Final Fantasy(FF1-10, not sure about the spin-offs)the games were better and had excellent stories.
In my opinion Final Fantasy XIII may be the last Final Fantasy because FFXII had a really bad story and they made too many mistakes to gameplay with it. If FFXIII resembles FFXII it's dead, if it resembles Kingdom Hearts or Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII then it will survive a little longer but that's my opinion.

 

[jthm]

It'll be the last when Squeenix has squeezed every last dollar from the golden tit that is Final Fantasy and not a moment before.

 

[Arehexes]

I'm slightly annoyed at Square. After all these years all they can seem to do is create more Final Fantasy games, despite the fact that there even being a second Final Fantasy game screwed with the notion presented in the word "final", changing it from the end, or completion of something to mean "the last one unless it sells good" oh, there have been other games, but most of them have been spin offs of Final Fantasy games, and the rest have sucked. I'm just wondering if i'm the only person in internet land who thinks that its time to put it to an end, or am i just mad cos Final Fantasy 12 wasn't that great?

You do know that the "Final" in Final Fantasy ment that was squares swan song game right? Meaning it was the final game square was gonna make, but the game was a success and they made more Final Fantasy games.

 

[ultimasupersaiyan]

oh, there have been other games, but most of them have been spin offs of Final Fantasy games, and the rest have sucked.

Whoa whoa whoa...are you telling me that you thought Chrono Trigger sucked?

Technically Chrono Trigger isn't a Final Fantasy spin-off, it's a stand alone game(which had a sequel called Chrono Cross if you didn't know)and yes Final Fantasy spin-off(like FF:Crystal Chronicles and Chocobo Dungeon)were pretty bad and marketed at extreme fan boys/girls.

 

[DeadMG]

Square Enix is of course, publishing Supreme Commander 2. Hardly Final Fantasy.

 

[Fronken]

I'm slightly annoyed at Square. After all these years all they can seem to do is create more Final Fantasy games, despite the fact that there even being a second Final Fantasy game screwed with the notion presented in the word "final", changing it from the end, or completion of something to mean "the last one unless it sells good" oh, there have been other games, but most of them have been spin offs of Final Fantasy games, and the rest have sucked. I'm just wondering if i'm the only person in internet land who thinks that its time to put it to an end, or am i just mad cos Final Fantasy 12 wasn't that great?

You do know why its named "Final Fantasy" right?, Square Enix was about to go bankrupt and they had 1 last chance to create a game before going out of buisness, and no one thought they would make it, therefore they named their last game "Final Fantasy", cause it was the companys last hope.

 

[Arehexes]

See, for all the greatness of the Final Fantasy 7 story, for me and many others the only reason that people say it had a great script was cos of the whole tragic Aeris (that is her name, i refuse the "Aerith" shit) death, because it was a shock, her being a main character and all. Not to say that the rest of the game wasn't superb and raised a whole generation of rabid fan boys (and girls, Vincent needs love as well), but when i ask people what the definitive moment was, they generally say that was it.

Sorry to DP but I guess Galuf's death didn't mean anything then? Sure he wasn't a young hot girl, but he was the warrior of dawn and light and broke out of EX-Deaths grip and he kept fighting even though his HP hit zero. Aeris just was praying for holy and was stabbed in the back, to me it was funny but Galif fought to the end and died with his grandchild watching him die. And after that he sent down his power of the crystals to her. I'm not bashing FF7 but I hate it when FF7 fan boys don't realize that death was not something new. Or when they don't seem to realize how FF7 mirrors 6 (which some how mirrors 2 but that's just me). First example of the mirror thing, FF6 had a group of rebels called "The Returners" to take down a power hungry group (cough kinda like "The Wild Roses" in F2), and FF7 had "AVALANCHE"(sp) which was to take down a power hungry group. Kefka went from well respected man of the military to mad man from an experiment, Sephiroth went from well respected man of the military to mad man when he found out he is the result of an experiment. I know that was off topic and all but I just had to say something about the death thing.

 

[Eiseman]

Sorry to DP but I guess Galuf's death didn't mean anything then? Sure he wasn't a young hot girl, but he was the warrior of dawn and light and broke out of EX-Deaths grip and he kept fighting even though his HP hit zero. Aeris just was praying for holy and was stabbed in the back, to me it was funny but Galif fought to the end and died with his grandchild watching him die. And after that he sent down his power of the crystals to her. I'm not bashing FF7 but I hate it when FF7 fan boys don't realize that death was not something new.

That's not entirely true, and either way it's something you can only say in hindsight. For starters, Galuf was in an FF game that didn't reach Western shores until two years after Aerith kicked the bucket. From the FF's I had played before then, the only character deaths I had seen were the multitude of cheesy "sacrifices" in FFIV that bore no meaning after they had all been Deus Ex Machina'D back to life, and General Leo in FFVI (THAT one did piss me off).

But more importantly, you know what makes Aerith so different? She was murdered. Right before your eyes. Everyone else before her either gave up their lives willingly or fought back, but Aerith didn't get any such say. Also it wasn't cheesy or overdone like, say, watching Cid blow himself up as he falls through a giant chasm; it was quick, effortless, and left you in a state of shock. A lasting shock, it would seem, since we're still talking about it ten years later.

But I don't wanna downtalk Galuf's sacrifice either. That was epic win. Still fighting even with 0 HP? Unheard of. And awesome. It's just a very, very different kind of dead than what Aerith got.

Anyway, there'll be a "final" Final Fantasy when I lose interest in it. If that happens, then they should be worried.

 

[Alvandera]

The "Final" Fantasy "series" did see some direct sequels over these years. Those were without a doubt, the worst games I've ever played. Anyone remember "X-2"?

I love Final Fantasy, has to be one of the greatest series I've ever played in my opinion, but yes, X-2 was a huge disappointment.

 

[Alvandera]

Try dragonquest you will probably like that.

I thought it looked a bit tacky, but if i get a chance i'll give it a go. Cheers for the advice

Dragonquest wasn't all that good.

 

[Silver Patriot]

I never got Final Fantasy. If they are not connected why do they share the same name? It just confuses me.

 

[Arehexes]

Sorry to DP but I guess Galuf's death didn't mean anything then? Sure he wasn't a young hot girl, but he was the warrior of dawn and light and broke out of EX-Deaths grip and he kept fighting even though his HP hit zero. Aeris just was praying for holy and was stabbed in the back, to me it was funny but Galif fought to the end and died with his grandchild watching him die. And after that he sent down his power of the crystals to her. I'm not bashing FF7 but I hate it when FF7 fan boys don't realize that death was not something new.

That's not entirely true, and either way it's something you can only say in hindsight. For starters, Galuf was in an FF game that didn't reach Western shores until two years after Aerith kicked the bucket. From the FF's I had played before then, the only character deaths I had seen were the multitude of cheesy "sacrifices" in FFIV that bore no meaning after they had all been Deus Ex Machina'D back to life, and General Leo in FFVI (THAT one did piss me off).

But more importantly, you know what makes Aerith so different? She was murdered. Right before your eyes. Everyone else before her either gave up their lives willingly or fought back, but Aerith didn't get any such say. Also it wasn't cheesy or overdone like, say, watching Cid blow himself up as he falls through a giant chasm; it was quick, effortless, and left you in a state of shock. A lasting shock, it would seem, since we're still talking about it ten years later.

But I don't wanna downtalk Galuf's sacrifice either. That was epic win. Still fighting even with 0 HP? Unheard of. And awesome. It's just a very, very different kind of dead than what Aerith got.

Anyway, there'll be a "final" Final Fantasy when I lose interest in it. If that happens, then they should be worried.

I can agree with the Aerith thing, but it just seemed meh to me. I guess the shock is great to Galuf's grand daughter seeing how she is a kid and cloud is a SOLIDER (not doing that for effect) so I figure Galuf's is the more effecting. Sadly I lost interest after X-2, and I do see what you mean with thetime gap of games. But some FF7 fan boys don't wanna admit it, over even play older ones. I have lots of friends like that, some didn't even see kefka's concept art but said he wore pink and was a homosexual clown.

 

[Corven]

I believe it's a lot easier to just say Final Fantasy then it is to say heroic adventure: chronicles of the forsaken as read in the sacred tome of injustice, see it could be worse it could be like a lot of JRPG's where they make a simple beginning title and add some crazy subtitle that barely makes any sense whatsoever.

 

[Nifty]

Not soon enough. FF12 was bloody terrible. They tried to catch me off guard with The Last Remnant but I'm not falling for that one.

They should give up the ghost before they fully turn into the Sonic Team.

 

[LewsTherin]

Hmmm...Well, after a good six of so games that were pure gold, they've been allowed their fair share of crap.