When will we see a NON-attractive woman in a video-game?
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Just out of curiosity,
where exactly are the unattractive men we see all the time?
Discounting men that are ugly because of graphical limitations, different species or over-the-top looks (since when not discounting these there's surely no shortage of unattractive women, unless you've got a thing for Tauren girls, in which case I won't judge).
where exactly are the unattractive men we see all the time?
Discounting men that are ugly because of graphical limitations, different species or over-the-top looks (since when not discounting these there's surely no shortage of unattractive women, unless you've got a thing for Tauren girls, in which case I won't judge).
Oh dear god. >.<GTwander said:
It's far easier to look at say Elaine from Uncharted than it is to look at a circus freak, to be blunt.
A good example of a normal-non super model woman is Alyx from HL.
Fable 2 has this.
Behold, Hammer (Hanna?):
An absolute badass, and a fantastic teammate. But not really hot or anything.
I also recommend: Pretty much every female in a Bethesda game.
Behold, Hammer (Hanna?):
An absolute badass, and a fantastic teammate. But not really hot or anything.
I also recommend: Pretty much every female in a Bethesda game.
The first, second and fourth of those, I'd say were all above-average looking. Especially the first. Like you said, it's subjective.Batou667 said:There's enough flexibility and subjectivity to make this an impossible request. One guy's average is another man's drop-dead-gorgeous and a third guy's worst nightmare.FireDr@gon said:
I think I get what you mean though: game girls that aren't "eye candy". Well, how about:
Personally I can't really think of any important female characters in games that aren't attractive, except older characters like Wynne. A lot that are attractive in unconventional ways, usually as in being quite tomboyish (i.e. the Mirror's Edge protagonist above, or Jade from BG&E) - but not many that are just not attractive at all.
it's tough because if you want a main character, they also have to be appealing. it's obviously doable to make the character not attractive, it's just easier to make women "attractive" for appealing. a shortcut, if you will. it's that whole double standard nonsense.
As someone who drew people for a living, she clearly has a bone structure and facial features that fall in line with the modern perceptions of "beauty" to be considered totally average. I mean, I can see the developers tried to give her a more realistic appearance (even threw in some asymmetry), but I just don't see too many people considering this:DazZ. said:
totally average. Especially when accounting for body type. To each his own though.
I can't see too many people saying she's incredibly gorgeous.axlryder said:
Not sure how ugly you have to be to fall below average, the thing about being average is someone's going to find you attractive as you'll have something that's their "type" as it were. Alyx's short hair for example really puts me off, could be all someone else needs.
She's not hideous by any means, but she's not made with sex appeal slathered all over her either, she's most certainly in the middle.
IDK, any woman that can one had a claymore shotgun has definitely got my attention.Fappy said:I have a feeling very few people were attracted to Eve....
At least I'd hope.
OT: Thats impossible. The whole "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" thing and all. I mean, yeah, there are obviously characters that are obviously gorgous and obviously ugly, but theres no way to truly quantify a "average" that everyone will be happy with.
What I'm trying to get at here is that there's a thing called "above average". Hair itself has almost nothing to do with a person's natural beauty, which I'm assuming is what the OP is taking issue with. If you have a bunch of pretty people in a game with different hair, you're still not going to have it called an equal representation just because the different kinds of hair put different people off. I'm not trying to tell you you're objectively wrong in thinking she's average, but we're talking about a wider perception here, which is why I'm even bothering to contest it as an example. Overall, most people would probably refer to her as "pretty", which isn't really "completely average". Completely average is more like "okay looking".DazZ. said:
If anyone had the massive balls and the massive effects budget and the massive creative superbrain required to make a game out of Mortal Engines or Fever Crumb the scales might be swayed a bit. The female protagonist of Mortal Engines is missing most of her face, an Fever Crumb stars a bald twelve year old girl.
But alas, the grip of steampunk on the gaming culture is not yet strong enough.
But alas, the grip of steampunk on the gaming culture is not yet strong enough.
Most games where the female protagonist is attractive, it would be fair to say that a male counterpart would also likely be attractive. There are plenty of unattractive and mediocre looking women in games. The TES series is my example.
Which is exactly how I see Alyx.axlryder said:
A huge problem with this topic is beauty is quite a personal preference, hair was just an example of taste and my view of what the wider perception sees as beautiful is completely anecdotal. I've certainly not hung around people who draw and study faces for beauty, most of my talk about beauty comes from more of a tits and ass perspective.
Well since Kreia's already been taken guess I'll go with Katie Mcreary from GTA4
Also props to dishonoured most of the chicks in that aren't all that beautiful either.
I definitely wouldn't call her ugly but I wouldn't call her a super attractive, she's definitely pretty but in a homely way but not a super model way.
Also props to dishonoured most of the chicks in that aren't all that beautiful either.
That's bizarre. I'm quite certain that what you are referring to is a true example of "personal taste" that has nothing at all to do with what is and isn't attractive. For instance, I would not expect a japanese production to portray an arabic person in a voluptuous manner, but that doesn't in any way rule out the idea of a 'sexified' arabic character.The Tall Nerd said:
Plus, it seems like you're stating that westerners in general find your nationality ugly, which implies a passive racism that most westerners would not identify with at all.
Basically, any nationality or hair type etc could and indeed should be regarded as attractive, and presented attractively.
Still able to draw? If so heres a challenge: Draw an unattractive female. She must be in good health, between the ages of 20 and 45, not afflicted by any grotesqueries, and have facial features and a body type that conform to the average of whatever ethnicity you choose. Assume she pays a modicum of attention to her appearance. (i.e. brushed hair, reasonable clothing, no clownesque application of makeup, etc).axlryder said: