Where can I find a good female villian?
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Oh, she was fantastic, the only thing keeping me from replaying hat game in general is the fact that it doesn't have an ending, and that drives me crazy as much as I love Obsidian. As for OT: I would say a certain character in one of the best games ever, Steambot Chronicles, AKA Bumpy Trot. I won't give it away but it was a good reveal.Samtemdo8 said:
What kind of villain do you want? Women run the gamut in literature, and reality (like Irma Grese).
I mean there's basically every woman above 21 in Disney films.
Biko Daitokuji is a favorite anti-villain of mine who comes from Project A-ko. A spoiled super genius (who's father looks suspiciously like Tony Stark) that builds assorted robots, mechs, and power suits to try and defeat Eiko (Who's parents drop hints they're Superman, and Wonder Woman) and win the affection of Shiko in a weird love triangle. The trio team up for the greater good, but they still really don't like each other. I highly recommend the anime movie series. It's one of the few I went out of my way to get the boxed set for.
Scandal Savage, Knockout, Jeanette, Stryx (Sp?), Black Alice, and Porcelain (From Secret Six series)are not ones to call themselves heroes, and they're prone to do the right thing now, and then but are largely villainous mercenaries.
Among other DC Villains, Lady Vix, Catwoman, Superwoman, Cheetah, a long list of women in the yellow Lantern Corps, and Red Lantern Corps, Mogane Lefay(Sp?), Faora, Ursa, Nora Friez, Circe, Devastation, Lady Shiva, and so many others.
Personally, I like a villain we learn about, and can see traits beyond their acts. Redeemable qualities, and so forth. Harley Quinn's having a fantastic run.
There's Captain Phasma, though I'm kinda just guessing, here. Movie ain't out yet.
I've forgotten far more than I could ever hope to list. I wish I had the energy, and strength of mind to list them all. It'd probably be the longest post I've ever made. Can we narrow the field some?
I mean there's basically every woman above 21 in Disney films.
Biko Daitokuji is a favorite anti-villain of mine who comes from Project A-ko. A spoiled super genius (who's father looks suspiciously like Tony Stark) that builds assorted robots, mechs, and power suits to try and defeat Eiko (Who's parents drop hints they're Superman, and Wonder Woman) and win the affection of Shiko in a weird love triangle. The trio team up for the greater good, but they still really don't like each other. I highly recommend the anime movie series. It's one of the few I went out of my way to get the boxed set for.
Scandal Savage, Knockout, Jeanette, Stryx (Sp?), Black Alice, and Porcelain (From Secret Six series)are not ones to call themselves heroes, and they're prone to do the right thing now, and then but are largely villainous mercenaries.
Among other DC Villains, Lady Vix, Catwoman, Superwoman, Cheetah, a long list of women in the yellow Lantern Corps, and Red Lantern Corps, Mogane Lefay(Sp?), Faora, Ursa, Nora Friez, Circe, Devastation, Lady Shiva, and so many others.
Personally, I like a villain we learn about, and can see traits beyond their acts. Redeemable qualities, and so forth. Harley Quinn's having a fantastic run.
There's Captain Phasma, though I'm kinda just guessing, here. Movie ain't out yet.
I've forgotten far more than I could ever hope to list. I wish I had the energy, and strength of mind to list them all. It'd probably be the longest post I've ever made. Can we narrow the field some?
She was Lust in both and she is an excellent villain in the 2003 series where she gets depth but is bland in Brotherhood/manga. Speaking of the 2003 series, the main villain is female and quite good as well.DoPo said:
A lot of other female villains have already been mentioned, but I don't see Selvaria from Valkyria Chronicles on here, so I'll add that one.
EDIT: Oh, depending on how you view "villain", Audrey from A Scanner Darkly.
Probably not the sort of thing you were thinking of, but Snoop from The Wire was described by Stephen King as the scariest female villain.
Sarah Kerrigan/Infested Kerrigan/Queen of Blades. Not so much in StarCraft, but in Brood Wars. Also definitely not in StarCraft 2, but we'll not speak of that game. In StarCraft: Brood Wars, Kerrigan is in control, conscious of her actions, and she is mean! Kills poor Fenix just because. Ruthless, ambitious, and arguably evil, she's pretty awesome, at least as far a genocidal, alien-human hybrid psychics go.
Despite the fact that you play as the Zerg and that means you basically play as Kerrigan, she is still obviously the villain. You could also argue that Minsk is the villain as well, but he falls into irrelevance by the second act of Brood Wars, what with the UED showing up. So, I nominate Sarah Kerrigan as a good female villain.
Despite the fact that you play as the Zerg and that means you basically play as Kerrigan, she is still obviously the villain. You could also argue that Minsk is the villain as well, but he falls into irrelevance by the second act of Brood Wars, what with the UED showing up. So, I nominate Sarah Kerrigan as a good female villain.
Miang
Miang Hawwa (ミァン・ハッワー Mi~an Hawwā?) is the main antagonist and the mastermind behind all the events in the Xenogears' timeline. She appears repeatedly throughout the game's events in opposition to the party, both behind the scenes and in direct confrontations, Miang acts as representative of Deus, an intergalactic bioweapon designed to conduct warfare on a planetary scale.[3] The final moments of the Eldridge catastrophe resulted in the creation of the original 'mother' being, tasked by the Deus system to give birth to an entire civilization that would provide and gather all the biological and mechanical "spare parts" it needed to repair and reactivate. Hawwa is the Arabic name of Eve. Myyah (the official romanization according to Perfect Works) is almost the reverse of Elly's full name (Elhaym), with the omitted 'El' being Hebrew and meaning 'God', symbolizing how she is connected to but different from that character.
One of the few humans that Deus gave birth to, Miang's first incarnation was known as Hawwa, The Complement. Hawwa's purpose was to guide and shape the events of human history to better suit the coming resurrection of Deus. All human women descended from the crash of the Eldridge, all inhabiting the planet the game takes place on, possess the genetic factor necessary to become the next incarnation of Miang. When the current one dies, Miang simply awakens in a new body.[3] The target seems to be randomly selected, but she always inhabits the body of an adult female, and the momentary transformation always results in purple hair and eye color. The only notable superhuman abilities she possesses are the ability to retain memory across incarnations and some considerable psionic abilities, strong enough to cleanly "reprogram" someone's subconscious to perform a chosen task, though for the most part she prefers working in the shadows to manipulate world events. This is evidenced by her sparse participation in battles in a mostly supportive role, usually piloting her C-1 Vierge.
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned The Boss from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater.
Not to be confused with Big Boss, The Boss was his mentor and a complicated character that is easily one of the best portrayals of a great female villain in video games.
Not to be confused with Big Boss, The Boss was his mentor and a complicated character that is easily one of the best portrayals of a great female villain in video games.
Avatar (both TLA and Korra) had some good examples. Both Azula and Kuvira were strong villains. Oh, also the blood bender that d00mMarinEBG mentions.
I actually can't think of a single good one in video games though. I'm struggling to think of any from games. Uh, there was the sadist girl from the second Tales of Symphonia 2, I would consider it a stretch to call her good though...
Shadowrun: Hong Kong had one that was already mentioned. I felt like the fact that she really never made an appearance in the game weakers her claim to being a good one though.
Planescape Torment? You've got Ravel and the Lady of Pain. Unfortunately I haven't finished the game so I don't know much about the Lady of Pain. But Ravel? She's, at the very least, creepy as fuck
I actually can't think of a single good one in video games though. I'm struggling to think of any from games. Uh, there was the sadist girl from the second Tales of Symphonia 2, I would consider it a stretch to call her good though...
Shadowrun: Hong Kong had one that was already mentioned. I felt like the fact that she really never made an appearance in the game weakers her claim to being a good one though.
Planescape Torment? You've got Ravel and the Lady of Pain. Unfortunately I haven't finished the game so I don't know much about the Lady of Pain. But Ravel? She's, at the very least, creepy as fuck
You've already been corrected on her being Lust in both, but you're thinking about Pride/WrathDoPo said:
Fuhrer Bradley was Pride in the original anime, and Wrath in the manga
CrimsonBlaze said:
She wasn't really a villain though...I think. I zoned out at the end but I'm pretty sure she was following orders still.
OT: Augistine, that ***** from inFamous Second Son. I hate authority so anyone like that gets under my skin right away. But she's a ruthless sadist. She grows concrete shards out from peoples bones. Sometimes for no reason, then never cures them.
I don't like referring to My Little Pony about most topics, but this seems like an exception: Starlight Glimmer. She's an interesting character, particularly as a female antagonist for many reasons:
-She's very powerful, but not for bullshit reasons - she worked her whole life to get strong, and her occasional tools and artifacts serve as supplements for her intellect and talent, rather than as the source of her abilities.
-She's malevolent and spiteful, but for sympathetic reasons - she's not simply explained away as simply being "evil" or even just "mean-spirited".
-Her motives are believable, her philosophy is not intrinsically bad, and her faith in a collectivist ideology as being ideal and peaceful is sincere (though she is aware her own hypocrisy runs contrary to it). There are examples of character interactions in the show that credit the merits of this, even if the ultimate moral is that they are not practical.
I'm by no means a brony, and will even go so far as to say that this show is intolerable most of the time, but I can't deny that it occasionally has brilliant writing and thematic elements. That being said, she's essentially Lots-o'-Huggin' Bear from Toy Story 3: a fluffy, purple-haired megalomaniac leader with abandonment issues who lie to their followers to create a utopia who then go to ludicris, self-defeating measures to exact revenge on those who exposed and overthrew them.
-She's very powerful, but not for bullshit reasons - she worked her whole life to get strong, and her occasional tools and artifacts serve as supplements for her intellect and talent, rather than as the source of her abilities.
-She's malevolent and spiteful, but for sympathetic reasons - she's not simply explained away as simply being "evil" or even just "mean-spirited".
-Her motives are believable, her philosophy is not intrinsically bad, and her faith in a collectivist ideology as being ideal and peaceful is sincere (though she is aware her own hypocrisy runs contrary to it). There are examples of character interactions in the show that credit the merits of this, even if the ultimate moral is that they are not practical.
I'm by no means a brony, and will even go so far as to say that this show is intolerable most of the time, but I can't deny that it occasionally has brilliant writing and thematic elements. That being said, she's essentially Lots-o'-Huggin' Bear from Toy Story 3: a fluffy, purple-haired megalomaniac leader with abandonment issues who lie to their followers to create a utopia who then go to ludicris, self-defeating measures to exact revenge on those who exposed and overthrew them.
That's because no~one knows very much about the Lady of Pain, Sigil's enigmatic... something. No~one knows what race she is, or where she came from. Speculation seems to be that Sigil is either her domain, or her prison. She's more powerful than all the gods of all the Prime Material worlds -- at least enough that no deity can get into Sigil. She can maintain all kinds of portals to and from Sigil and the rest of the Multiverse -- seemingly changing their locations, destinations, and even opening and closing them at a whim. Those who cross her purposes -- and a cutter never knows what those purposes are -- might find themselves wandering for eternity in a dimensional maze, seemingly crafted out of a spatially-linked pseudo-Sigil, devoid of life. Or flayed to death, which is described as "feeling like thousands of knives form under your skin and explode outward in a blossom of blood." Worshipping her as a goddess will get you flayed. Standing in her way when she walks down the streets of Sigil will get you flayed. ~Looking at her~ will get you flayed -- though people who've seen her reflection describe her as having a face like a steel mask wreathed in blades.The Almighty Aardvark said:
She never speaks, but instead has a seemingly infinite amount of her personal minions, the Dabus, who speak for her in a 'language' of symbols appearing over their heads. They also perform Sigil's upkeep, including cleaning the streets, pruning the razorvine... Oh, and picking up houses, streets, and sometimes entire ~wards~ and just... putting them down somewhere else.
But perhaps the most villainous and insidious thing of all, is that TSR and Wizards of the Coast have never given her ~stats~. Without stats, she can never be involved in a combat encounter, and thus, can never be ~defeated~. So the Lady of Pain is a villain who ~always wins~.
"In my talents I shape clay, crafting life forms as I please. Around me is a burgening empire of steel. From my throne room lines of power curve in to the skies of Earth. My whims shall become lightning bolts. The doomsday that ammounts to humanity. Out of the chaos, they will run and whimper, praying to me to end their tedious anarchy. I am drunk with this vision. God. The title suits me well"
- SHODAN, System Shock
Also, perhaps, the witch from Snow white and the seven dwafs. There have been hundereds of interpretations of the character thoughout the ages, which really states how much she stands out as an antagonist.
- SHODAN, System Shock
Also, perhaps, the witch from Snow white and the seven dwafs. There have been hundereds of interpretations of the character thoughout the ages, which really states how much she stands out as an antagonist.
Fair point. I think I might have conflated the killing of her children with the murder of her brother Absyrtus, who according to some variations of the myth was killed and dismembered to delay her father from giving him a proper burial and thus cover their escape.LifeCharacter said:
