Where can I find a good female villian?

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Nightmare Moon?
Queen Chrysalis?
Starlight Glimmer??

Other than that... uh... Miranda Priestly? I feel like I came a bit too late on this thread... :p
 

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Kill la Kill has two really good ones. That's about all that pops in mind.

Blood+ has a pretty good one, too, if only for that one thing she does.
 

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Well as absolutely terrible as Snow White and the Huntsman was, I thought Charlize Theron did a really good job as the villain. That character was the only redeeming factor for that movie.
 

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The first ones that came to mind were the women in Kill Bill.

I came across this site that seems to have every female villains. https://www.pinterest.com/goldenglobegurl/famous-female-villains/

Zykon TheLich said:
Oh...what was that one recently, a film, Matt Parkinson did a review of it on the site. I haven't watched it but I seem to remember him saying the female "villain" was pretty good. Story involved [very vague spoilers I guess] some shit about her disappearing and getting her boyfriend framed for her murder...had some actress in it...uh....look, I don't really do films, but I'm trying to help.
Are you thinking about Gone Girl?
 

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Oh, and going classical...Medea. You know the old "death is too good for them" bit? Medea decided that about Jason. Mind you, Jason gave her ample reason to hate his rotten guts, but her idea of revenge is to kill his new wife, his new father in law, and her own children and leaving Jason alive to suffer the pain of losing them before absconding with their corpses to deny him the closure of burying them. I challenge anyone not to empathize with her anger, but so too do I challenge the idea that she isn't a villainous protagonist.
Honestly, I don't empathize with her anger at all and have more sympathy for Jason in that scenario. Though, my interpretation is basically that Jason was prostituting himself to save his family since his choice was: marry the princess or go into exile (and starve to death). If I remember my Greek plays correctly, there's even a line where Jason says that he only needs to put his family aside until he becomes king. He isn't actually that concerned when his new wife and father-in-law die, with his first reaction being to run back to Medea and say "shit's hit the fan, grab the kids, we need to run!". It fits with better with my understanding of his character which is a man who wants to be a classical hero and will do right by the people closest to him. It's why he gave up a kingship that was rightfully his previous to this episode, and why he married Medea in the first place (long story short: it saved her from being killed by her family). I understand why Medea was upset since it looked like the one person she cared about, who she had basically devoted her life to, the only one she new in a foreign land, was stabbing her in the back. However understanding isn't the same as empathizing and I don't think she made the right decision (killing children is never justified). I think she should have had more faith and trust in Jason than that.

But then, from what I gather my interpretation is actually in the minority among Classics nerds, so eh.
 

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Austin Manning said:
Asita said:
Oh, and going classical...Medea. You know the old "death is too good for them" bit? Medea decided that about Jason. Mind you, Jason gave her ample reason to hate his rotten guts, but her idea of revenge is to kill his new wife, his new father in law, and her own children and leaving Jason alive to suffer the pain of losing them before absconding with their corpses to deny him the closure of burying them. I challenge anyone not to empathize with her anger, but so too do I challenge the idea that she isn't a villainous protagonist.
Honestly, I don't empathize with her anger at all and have more sympathy for Jason in that scenario. Though, my interpretation is basically that Jason was prostituting himself to save his family since his choice was: marry the princess or go into exile (and starve to death). If I remember my Greek plays correctly, there's even a line where Jason says that he only needs to put his family aside until he becomes king. He isn't actually that concerned when his new wife and father-in-law die, with his first reaction being to run back to Medea and say "shit's hit the fan, grab the kids, we need to run!". It fits with better with my understanding of his character which is a man who wants to be a classical hero and will do right by the people closest to him. It's why he gave up a kingship that was rightfully his previous to this episode, and why he married Medea in the first place (long story short: it saved her from being killed by her family). I understand why Medea was upset since it looked like the one person she cared about, who she had basically devoted her life to, the only one she new in a foreign land, was stabbing her in the back. However understanding isn't the same as empathizing and I don't think she made the right decision (killing children is never justified). I think she should have had more faith and trust in Jason than that.

But then, from what I gather my interpretation is actually in the minority among Classics nerds, so eh.
Anyone with a chariot pulled by dragons is clearly not in a rational state of mind. Medea was batshit crazy.
 

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Spoilers for this one, but Eleanor Shaw from "The Manchurian Candidate," as played by Meryl Streep. The pragmatic patriot with an idealistic streak, gone horribly wrong.
 

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Shadowrun Hong Kong has some good examples. Josephine Tsang is the elderly corporate executive that's pulling the strings behind the scenes to set the HKPD on you, getting you a kill on sight order. But that's without getting into the strange things that are going on in the Walled City.

Courtesy of the Queen with a Thousand Teeth
 

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Asita said:
Well if you want psychopaths, there's always Black Lagoon. Off the top of my head, Kerrigan was a pretty major villain in StarCraft: Brood War, there's the Mother from Dragon Age: Awakening, Knight Commander Meredith in Dragon Age 2, Zorin Blitz of Hellsing: Ultimate fame, Bellatrix Lestrange in Harry Potter (granted, both she and Zorin are a bit lower on the totem poll than the other choices), there are two that feature prominently in Knights of the Old Republic 2 (for spoiler reasons I shan't mention them here), Azula in Avatar: the Last Airbender, Demona in Gargoyles, and Scarlett Briar in Season 1 of Guild War 2's living world.

Oh, and going classical...Medea. You know the old "death is too good for them" bit? Medea decided that about Jason. Mind you, Jason gave her ample reason to hate his rotten guts, but her idea of revenge is to kill his new wife, his new father in law, and her own children and leaving Jason alive to suffer the pain of losing them before absconding with their corpses to deny him the closure of burying them. I challenge anyone not to empathize with her anger, but so too do I challenge the idea that she isn't a villainous protagonist.
There are many female "villains" in the classical era the point of the mythos however is that many characters are ambiguous and not evil by choice perse.
 

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Eh, there's probably a dating site for that. Or hit the local super evil bar or whatever.
 

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The main antagonist from the Danganronpa series. Seriously, I think that wackjob could give any other female villian a run for their money.

Ten Foot Bunny said:
So how about Gozer from Ghostbusters?

IIRC, I believe the movie mentioned that Gozer could take the appearance of anything that it wished. So, technically, Gozer is not a female even though it chose to take the appearance of a human female to confront the Ghostbusters.
 

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Nergui said:
In greek mythology, Hera was also quite nasty and vindictive.
From what I can recall of Greek mythology, wasn't that every female whose role wasn't to get boinked by a god/monster/hero/whatever and sometimes even then. Apart from Hestia. I can't recall anything bad about her.

OT: I sense a distinct lack of comic book girls. C'mon! Where's Poison Ivy or Harley Quinn? What about Mystique?

Edit: Also, I agree with [Kira Must Die], there's just something about Worst Mom that makes her so hate-able but in the right ways. Also, Blumenkranz Intensifies!

 

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In Lord of the Ice Garden (Polish book, there's no English translation as of yet, unfortunately) there's the Underground Mother and her 'Red Priestess' called Nahel Ifriti.

The Underground Mother is a goddess that pretty much resembles hardcore, extreme communism. Her holy book is called the Codex of the Earth which pretty much screws over everyone that believes/is forced to believe in it. Some choice mentions include living your life believing that everything that exists belongs to the Underground Mother and will eventually return to the Underground Mother, not being able to eat anything except for some type of wheat (eating anything else is punishable severely), not engaging in any sort of leisure, working pretty much all the time to appease the Mother...There's also a bit in the second book where one of the main characters gets to see one of her disciples naked, and they look vaguely like a man and a woman, with 'something' between their legs.

Nahel Ifriti pretty much goes around spreading the word of the Underground Mother by terrifying everyone into submission. She's kind of the Melissandre (of ASoIaF fame) of this book, except she gets shit done. She pretty much forces and entire empire to turn on itself by bring on a huge drought, the emperor figures out that she's the one causing the drought a little bit too late and just before he sends off some troops to attack her, a massive downpour starts. Pretty much all of his troops turn on him, the city is razed and barely anyone escapes. Oh and she also always has two leopards with her for some reason, if I remember correctly she 'took' them from someone who didn't really want to part with them.
 

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Just going with ones I can think of not yet posted, and not including ones that are mere henchwomen for a bigger bad:

Demona from Gargoyles.

Priestess Nimue from the Warlord Trilogy. Sort of like Demona in that she is apprenticed to a powerful sorcerer and starts out good (in fact being the first character the protagonist ever makes love to) but goes mad with grief and eventually becomes a ruthless enemy far worse than her master.

Talia al Ghul from Batman. Yes, she's more sympathetic than her father but recent events have left her in a far more villainous (and capable!) light despite the fact that she still refers to Bats as 'beloved'.

Colonel Ivanovna from Front Mission 4. Probably designed as the peace-loving Elsa's opposite number since they have similar character designs even though they never met. What other military leader would ignore orders and instead take her giant mech (giant even by Wanzer standards- this thing is the size of a yacht) on a rampage through the city killing people for fun, laughing all the way?

Senator Viqi Shesh from the Star Wars EU. I've read over 50 of those books and no other villain makes me seethe as much as her, not even Palpatine. Palpatine is cartoonishly evil (though his initial character was modelled on Richard Nixon), whereas Shesh is a spoiled brat princess of a politician causing the deaths of billions in a quest for power, sort of like an evil caricature of our initial impression of princess Leia or (insert your least favourite shrill female politician here). At least the book she dies in takes special care to torment her a bit first as retribution.
 

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Yawn... good villaness...in Video Games. I know the perfect one

Awesomenauts - Ayla

And if you ask why I would say that you have clearly never played Awesomenauts.
 
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Since i've just re-watched Dredd this weekend:
More about her 'trademark'
Movie begins with her ordering to skin three dudes alive, after forcing them to inhale a drug that slows down your perception of time
Yeah.

Other than that, i think Ravel Puzzlewell is worth being mentioned in this tread. Her creepy obsession with the Nameless One, or rather the question she once asked him makes her an interesting villain.
 

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In videogames, I think one overlooked is Dahlia Hawthorne from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials & Tribulations



Don't trust this girl! EVER!
 

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JohnZ117 said:
Spoilers for this one, but Eleanor Shaw from "The Manchurian Candidate," as played by Meryl Streep. The pragmatic patriot with an idealistic streak, gone horribly wrong.
Or take the same character from the better original version, played by Angela Lansbury, this time a fanatical communist.

Also, the Wicked Witch of the West from The Wizard of OZ, who, in addition to being properly villainous, had the best minions of any villain.