Where's all the SJWs at?
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Well fine, ben kuchera is a hypocrite. I don't know who that is or why you decided to bring him up. Nor do I think whatever he did was okay. What's your point?Incisive said:
I assume because he's one of the ones gamergate wants gone, due to the shitty, hypocritical things he's done. Especially as he's become something of a vocal focus of the anti-journalism ire recently, since the the whole 'trying to get Tito to shut down discussion on The Escapist' thing broke.Racecarlock said:
Honestly, at this rate 'censorship' is going the way of 'literally' and 'ironically', words we can't use any more because they've misused to the point of farce.Racecarlock said:
Gamergate, from what I understand (it's a movement I sympathises with a fair chunk of (less politics, yellow journalism and clickbait in my gaming please) but am not involved in), wants these journalists gone, not because they disagree with their opinions, but because they're yellow journalists, and are therefore worthless at actually doing the job they're ostensibly paid for (reporting events as impartially and accurately as possible). They're not under fire here for expressing opinions, they're under fire for being bad at journalism. Wanting the firing of someone who is bad at their job is not censorship.
My guess? Us "SJWs" are all around. Some of us are on the Escapist, some on Kotaku, some on Destructoid, etc.. The reason you don't see us is because we aren't some unified, secret cabal that plot to pick apart games and picket releases we don't like. We are just gamers that want our games to be a bit better, like most gamers do. The recent mess in the gaming community has made many of us surface however, we've stopped just playing games and being content with what we got (because games are fun) to speak up about how we want games to be made, about how the community treats many of its' members (particularly those of us that didn't get a Y chromosome from our dad). Which is another reason you don't see us that much, because trying to express a simple wish to developers about how they could make their game better (such as "less sexualization of women") often ends up with us being overwhelmed by replies from angry guys who feels that we are ruining their fun by virtue of having an opinion. Better to keep your head down and try to avoid the shit storm.
In my experience, often discussed, rarely seen.
My Tumblr feed has quite a few Feminists on it. I saw maybe two messages a day about Social Justice issues. I had one gamer and he was posting dozens of passive aggressive jabs at SJW everyday. Eventually one particularly self-pitying message (I could disprove all the SJW nonsense in an instant... but I would be banned so I can't), I headed over to his Borderland page. When I started following him, it was wall-to-wall Borderlands, now its wall-to-wall politics... and not even informative politics just a lot of whining about how they're oppressed.
I unfollowed him.
My Tumblr feed has quite a few Feminists on it. I saw maybe two messages a day about Social Justice issues. I had one gamer and he was posting dozens of passive aggressive jabs at SJW everyday. Eventually one particularly self-pitying message (I could disprove all the SJW nonsense in an instant... but I would be banned so I can't), I headed over to his Borderland page. When I started following him, it was wall-to-wall Borderlands, now its wall-to-wall politics... and not even informative politics just a lot of whining about how they're oppressed.
I unfollowed him.
DID SOMEBODY SAY SJW??
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here I am! what will it be? patricary? mysogany? cultural apropriation? I got it all here...wanna hear how Elizabeth is actually sexist? oh hell why don't I just skip to the chase and tell you your all terrible peopel? yes YOU personally micheal! what the hell arte you doing? no don't look at me like that
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here I am! what will it be? patricary? mysogany? cultural apropriation? I got it all here...wanna hear how Elizabeth is actually sexist? oh hell why don't I just skip to the chase and tell you your all terrible peopel? yes YOU personally micheal! what the hell arte you doing? no don't look at me like that
oh hey! you found my twitter acount!Keoul said:Because derp
I'm a SJW , and proud. There are issues that are close to my heart ( yeah that bodily organ with the icy-dagger poking out of it ), and yeah I'm going to stand up for what I believe in.Impulse725 said:
So what if it's a derogatory term? I reclaim it!
and I'm a gamer.
Considering your intense concern over the state of the public service known as (hobbyist) journalism I must ask: Are you not, in fact, an SJW? More to the point that Breitebart list isn't of SJWs, it's of game journalists it's accusing of collusion. Very different.Incisive said:
Edit: Oh, nevermind, the user I was responding to was banned. Good show!
OT: I'm sure the SJWs are out there somewhere, but if they're socializing to play games, they're too busy playing games to be all boogyman-y.
Perhaps I am interpreting her comments wrong but it seems like she is being sarcastic and egging these people on. I find it funny how angry people are getting at her comments.Keoul said:Because derp
Someone's probably gunna come and correct me but this is all I have to contribute. Don't know this topic well enough to debate it really.
Take the two pilots that have already made the sacrifice so that you can face the challenge. Dispose of them. Assume the controls. Shove that control into a nosedive! Push yourself to total self-dstruction. As you realize, you are about to enter a world close to Parts Unknown. Ah, smell it. Warriors.Quadocky said:
Joking aside, SJW is a pejorative. I don't know a single should that seriously takes that label onto themselves.
Urban dictionary has a definition that explains that much better
If you sit there, have a think, realise that you are generally pretty cool with inclusion and diversity, and say "hell, I guess that makes me a SJW!", then you're wrong. That makes you a decent stand-up human being.
SJWs are people who actively try to tear down everything men know and love, who would sooner see the media and hobby in ruins just to further their own agenda or get smug self satisfaction. Therefore, they don't exist.
SJWs are people who actively try to tear down everything men know and love, who would sooner see the media and hobby in ruins just to further their own agenda or get smug self satisfaction. Therefore, they don't exist.
Hi. I'm here and was called sjw multible times.
I mostly don't post in GG Threads anymore because I learned that as long you don't agree with GG 100% you are aperently either stupid, naive and/or corrupt. You can't discuss with people who are not capable of self-reflection.
I mostly don't post in GG Threads anymore because I learned that as long you don't agree with GG 100% you are aperently either stupid, naive and/or corrupt. You can't discuss with people who are not capable of self-reflection.
Don't be silly he means Social Justice War-Monks [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/War_Monk]Norithics said:
You get to fight for justice with Axes and can use Staves to revive threads, but you can only be one if you are a man.
Which I think they are working on... but have run into linguistic difficulties with the SJWs [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/War_Cleric] who claim that cleric is a way cooler word. So the SJWs and the SJWs are unable to resolve their SJW differences and are calling on the Social Justice warlocks to be an impartial party in terms of SJWs, so that could be where you got confused.
Theres not much to reclaim there, since the term was afaik coined in order to describe what is essentially a group of people that is very hateful, features a lot of sexists, racists and other rather unpleasant people (like people hating thin people, for example, not even sure if theres a proper term for that O_O) who claim to be "feminists" or some similar term while pretty much insulting the very principle of any form of equality.Ben Lyons said:
They also tend to heavily rely on ad hominem and strawman arguments when it comes to actually having a discussion, which basically makes talking to them nearly impossible since they will constantly try to either spin your words around or simply make something up in order to justify why you are not worth talking to and your arguments should hence be dismissed on the grounds that you are a terrible person instead of simply addressing what you actually said.
Theres more about them, specifically regarding some odd sense of "hierarchy" essentially based on just how "oppressed" a person is, an oddly cult-like behaviour, a very weird own terminology to keep themselves free from being called out for how hateful they are etc., but I dont really feel like writing an essay right now
.At any rate, if you want to you are perfectly free to use the term to describe yourself, its not like you need anyones approval after all, though you shouldnt be surprised when a lot of people dont really take you seriously when you basically use a title given to what I would call an insane person to describe yourself, just my two cents
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I don't. Whether she's being snarky or no, it's perpetuating a cycle of ignorance and loathing and it's reprehensible.Bat Vader said:Perhaps I am interpreting her comments wrong but it seems like she is being sarcastic and egging these people on. I find it funny how angry people are getting at her comments.Keoul said:Because derp
Someone's probably gunna come and correct me but this is all I have to contribute. Don't know this topic well enough to debate it really.
Edited to add:
In the name of fairness I would and have said the same thing on various unmentionable image boards when the hate machine starts up in earnest and the 'egging people on' that goes on there makes headlines. Those gents have no excuse, she has no excuse.
Eventually people have to stop kicking each other and start healing.
