WHITE GUY DEFENSE FORCE GO!

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madwarper said:
chronobreak said:
If the authors had any conviction, or any courage, they would be in here to explain their work. They will stay far away and let the click money come in, all while probably having a good laugh at the fiasco they have created. To me, that is cowardice.
Granted, if he did enter the forums and repeat what was said in the comic, he'd probably be ban-hammered rather quickly.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/codeofconduct

Regardless of what some of our content creators may say, do or provoke within their videos or articles, this does not give members the ability to act in the same way. They are entertainers and if they brought their language or flaming into the forums, they would be held accountable, just as any other forum member of The Escapist would be.
Now that is fucking bullshit. Same kind of crap as here in the UK where the average bint can get prosecuted for "hate speech" but if they're a comedian telling the same joke on stage then it's okay.
 

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I've been thinking about that myself, and although I don't see anything that's really worth getting up in arms about, I do think the Zimmerman reference is a little too soon. I mean, whether you agree with the courts decision or not, a kid is dead and a dude was hung by the media. Nobody really 'won', and thanks to the excessive media coverage and conjecture flying around it will probably be years before anyone can dig up the raw facts for themselves and come up with a personally satisfying answer.
Meh. Very few of the responses have actually even mentioned the Zimmerman bit, so I'm reasonably certain that's not the reason.
Hey man, you offered it as an option. I did try to read through the thread, but I don't have a strong grasp of what people are really talking about anyway. Mostly because I chose to read the thread backwards for reasons lost to time, but I also suspect that a number of people aren't actually arguing with each other so much as they are responding to people who aren't speaking...
 

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sageoftruth said:
Can anyone explain why White Guy Omega always had his hand on his fedora?
The joke is that creepy omega males typically wear fedoras in an attempt to look cool. And that bronies are unattractive beta males.
 

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Status euphoric and had hover mode where both hilarious.
Also it was nice to see Omega and Beta rather then the Alpha/Beta where beta is Omega.
Shame you don't know what the differences are:
Beta= second in command or someone who will assume command if ask but has no wish to be "top-dog"
Omega= follows what Alpha and Beta say would rather be populate then right, don't mind dicking people over is the Alpha tells them too.
basically you Beta and Omega where the wrong way around.

The Zimmerman comment was a bad step though, that was at best Tangential about race and Zimmerman wasn't even white.
So you're basically just giving your enemies a stick to beat you with.

7/10 better luck next time
 

Agayek

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Bluelaughter said:
It's offensive because it casually makes fun of anyone who is fat, nerdy, short, likes fedoras or statistics, is a brony or works out, by making them negative points of the White Guy Defense Force, the obvious antagonists.
No it doesn't. That's like saying an episode of South Park casually mocks tall people because the target of that week's mockery happens to be a basketball player or something.

It's a bullshit fallacy at best.

Bluelaughter said:
It offends people who are staunch defenders of Zimmerman and his actions.

If offends people who could make a civilized argument against the first man's point, but straw-manning the argument.
Now these may actually have some merit. I'm still not really seeing why it's cause enough to rant and rave and insult people for over 300 posts, but I'm also the kinda guy who can't see why just about anything is cause enough for that, so I guess I'll just have to deal with it.

EvilRoy said:
Hey man, you offered it as an option. I did try to read through the thread, but I don't have a strong grasp of what people are really talking about anyway. Mostly because I chose to read the thread backwards for reasons lost to time, but I also suspect that a number of people aren't actually arguing with each other so much as they are responding to people who aren't speaking...
I did, and it may well be what's going on. I guess I'm just looking for an answer that's more satisfying than that. /shrug
 

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That was a good laugh.

Later friends. My mind has now drifted off to the alternate dimension.
 

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Why is the White Guy Beta version holding a Twilight Plushie?? How does that even apply to this comic's joke? I don't even XD
By the time I got to this post someone has probably answered it better than I can, but the serious question posed at the beginning is actually relevant to the MLP fandom.

As great as a lot of people in the fandom are, there are a lot of people who get really up-in-arms whenever a humanized pony is portrayed as non-white. (I can post some examples if you're interested) "Why is Twilight indian?!" "You idiot Rarity isn't black!" "You made Fluttershy a muslim how dare you" etc etc.

Go to any pony image site and find an image of humanized ponies and I guarantee you on most of them there is at least one comment on race.
pft, ya, those idiots. It's like people who complain about Katara from Last Airbender being cast as a white girl, or Zuko being India. If you get upset about that kind of thing, your a bad person.

For the record, as an avid fan, I have never seen a single comment like that. I recommend not visiting sites like that if that's such a common thing. It's like reading youtube comments or 4chan posts, you're just asking for trolls.

A more accurate read might just be that the internet says it's acceptable to hate on Bronies right now.
 

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They killed the black guy.;_;

All of this Escapist content is ruining my innocence. I'm too young to be exposed to all these horrors of the world.
Did you not already see what that stuff about veganism did to my poor mental health? How I responded?

Give my poor innocence back, Escapist. You heartless monsters.

Also, as a My Little Pony fan, I'm not sure how to feel about this. But the making fun of racism was pretty funny.
 

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Well it's just lazy to make fun of white people. It's easy because of all the horrible things associated with them, but it's just plain lazy and a real cop-out in terms of writing.

This comic is just about on par with every "stupid husband can't figure out how to work a gadget" commercial ever made in terms of effort.

While it is true that yes, race shouldn't matter and protagonists should be allowed to have any amount of melanin in their skin, we just don't have enough developers/writers around in this industry that can identify with not having less melanin to properly portray a character without their melanin level becoming their defining character trait in most cases.

It's a chicken and egg thing, there aren't a lot of lead characters with skin tones other than 255 red, 255 green, and 255 blue around, so people without those mixes of color feel ostracized and don't get into the industry, and because they don't get into the industry, the tones stay the same color levels because the developers/writers can only personally identify with those color combinations.

The same goes for almost every entertainment industry, that's what creates idiots like Tyler Perry and all that misogynist, generic "gangsta rap", because they are the only ones filling a niche, so they get all the money and praise from their respective communities. It's like if Silent Hill was the ONLY horror game, naturally it would make all the money, and it's why indie games are so successful right now, because they fill niches that no one else is filling.

It's just going to take a long time until things balance out in such a way where characters lacking more sunburn/skin cancer-friendly tones aren't dominating all of our media (especially games), but in the meantime, making lazy comics like these just to provoke rage and be click-bait is doing nothing to further us to that point. No, we shouldn't just sit back and "wait" for things to change, but comics like these will not incite positive, natural change. It just creates pressure and unnecessary rage.

We need rational, grounded advocacy groups. Not trolling.
 

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This is really depressing. I hoped that the people in the first pages saying this was so obvious people wouldn't be offended. Guess I need to remember the Escapist is still part of the Internet.

Oh well, to the fallout ball, away!

 

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carnex said:
Well, Johnatan Grey Carter never changes really. He always thinks that if accidental ball to the groin is funny kicking someone in the balls dozen times, then jumping on his balls for a few minutes and inviting everyone in the surrounding area for a round of the same fun will be that much funnier.
He has a point. After a while, beating a joke into the ground actually can loop around to being funny again. TVTropes calls this "crossing the line twice", I believe.

I really love dry, dark, nonsensical and morbid British humor
Pretty sure the British version is called humour, actually.
 

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chronobreak said:
If the authors had any conviction, or any courage, they would be in here to explain their work. They will stay far away and let the click money come in, all while probably having a good laugh at the fiasco they have created. To me, that is cowardice.
There's like three hundred comments, man. Give me a chance to read them.
 

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lacktheknack said:
chronobreak said:
If the authors had any conviction, or any courage, they would be in here to explain their work. They will stay far away and let the click money come in, all while probably having a good laugh at the fiasco they have created. To me, that is cowardice.
Grey's jumped in before (<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.825461-How-to-Talk-About-Games-3?page=5#20037008>occasionally to hilarious effect), and he says a LOT about his personal perspectives, even seeding his news stories with them.

Try again?
Oh, then where is he? I mean, besides that one time he joined the discussion. Because, you know, that really defends my accusation so fervently.

Edit: Good man, right above me. It's one thing to fling shit, it's another to stand in front of it.
 

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xplosive59 said:
So is this comic trying to pander to the /b/ audience now or what?
Except that they would be for the sort of folks this comic would be making fun of to begin with.

Or /pol/, who was formerly /int/, which was formerly /new/, which was formerly /n/. Which is one of the biggest White Nationalist lolligags around the internets. And people like SRS say that Reddit is bad, 4chan lives up to its reputation. In fact, probably the only reason Reddit is so terrible is that a handful of 4channers floated onto the site. The reason SRS hate them is because they're receiving the fallout of a far more terrible site.

Speaking of which, it would appear likely that someone on /pol/ linked to this. And I suspect that quenlinlom could be a /pol/ user who decided to bravely take action and sign up for this 'evil, white hating site' to show us who's boss in the name of glorious 4chan. Don't forgive, don't forget, and all that! If history tells us anything, it's that 4chan won't forgive enemies of the glorious white raceTM. Note all the Greentexting and mocking both tumblr and Reddit as casual, white hating social network sites.

Hey 4chan, thanks for the Touhou and the My Little Pony. Now go away and leave the internet peacefully, please.
 

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chronobreak said:
lacktheknack said:
chronobreak said:
If the authors had any conviction, or any courage, they would be in here to explain their work. They will stay far away and let the click money come in, all while probably having a good laugh at the fiasco they have created. To me, that is cowardice.
Grey's jumped in before (<link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.825461-How-to-Talk-About-Games-3?page=5#20037008>occasionally to hilarious effect), and he says a LOT about his personal perspectives, even seeding his news stories with them.

Try again?
Oh, then where is he? I mean, besides that one time he joined the discussion. Because, you know, that really defends my accusation so fervently.

Edit: Good man, right above me. It's one thing to fling shit, it's another to stand in front of it.
And besides, <link=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/posts/Grey+Carter?f_sort=datestamp+desc&f_page=2>here's his decently long string of posts during the "MOAR FUNNY ;___;" days.

You didn't choose the right contributor to call a coward, I gotta say.
 

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Tips for getting over 300 comments:
1. Take as many divisive issues as you can.
2. Boil everything down into the most ham fisted straw man possible.
3. Add insult to other large groups where ever possible.
4. Post
5. Act surprised and hurt when called out on what this kind of post is.

It worked for Sarkeesian. Time to throw a kickstarter up for making this a comic series.
 

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Grey Carter said:
chronobreak said:
If the authors had any conviction, or any courage, they would be in here to explain their work. They will stay far away and let the click money come in, all while probably having a good laugh at the fiasco they have created. To me, that is cowardice.
There's like three hundred comments, man. Give me a chance to read them.
Did you read my comment about how this is 2tumblr4me hahaha, I guess that's a maybe since the mods hid it away. anyways, in all seriousness, I only found the "Zimmerman mode" to tickle my funny bones. JUst found the rest too dull...

:p
 

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The only good this comic did is how 4chan changed it so it's actually funny. which will no doubt be the only reason it's ever going to be remembered. Not only that but as funny as it is this to the average person on the net will look like a politicly correct rip off.