I'd like to ask, why ask the question of why not make a character black if you aren't fishing for a shitstorm? There's no way to answer a loaded question like that without looking like a racist.Lucane said:Asking the question isn't the same as demanding a change, and the mere fact of the character being (in this case)white isn't racist but trying to justify it with (He's like "Well then maybe people won't be able to identify with him")quenlinlom said:The author bites his own hands.
as a defense to keep a charter a certain way without the choice being about setting/time period or even just the creators decision. Then saying that everyone(male/female white/Hispanic/black/Asian/Indian/Middle Eastern/Etc Gay/Straight Short/Averge/Tall Obese/Skinny/etc. etc. etc etc. ) who would seek to play it is or should be okay with playing as a whitemaleguy character which implies anything other than a white guy would be an inferior choice to have as the character.
Again this isn't just about if the character is X but rather why it can only be X.
WHITE GUY DEFENSE FORCE GO!
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Although the comic attacks reactionary extremists well, it goes a little overboard. A problem is that someone might go, 'But wait, I'm white," or big, or buff, or like statistics, or a brony, etc, and mistakenly group themselves with the WGDF. Fitting into one of these categories isn't too unlikely if in the gaming community. If the 4th row of the comic was left out or changed, the comic would have been far less controversial and far funnier. This side attack on 'socially acceptable' things to attack detracts from the original message.
>suspiciously only created an account to comment on this comicSpot1990 said:
>implying new accounts are automatically suspicious
Tinfoil much?
EUPHORIA-TRANSFORMATION AND HOOOVER AWAAAAY. Let us escape [sub]to the movies[/sub]Daystar Clarion said:I'm glad we finally agree on this topicMaiev Shadowsong said:
Zachy! ZACHY!Zachary Amaranth said:
Wait, I'm coming with you.
[HEADING=1]ZACHY WAIT![/HEADING]
Cali-bear, come with me if you want to live!Calibanbutcher said:
(Though I shall enjoy being a spectator to this spectalce)
Hey guess what... free speech doesn't actually give you the right to say what you want. The escapist is a company and a business, and their website is the way they want it. The views expressed by it's members reflect on the site itself. People say horrific things on 4chan because they are horrific, and that is the image 4chan wants. The escapist doesn't want that image so they moderate it to represent themselves. This is a privately owned website/business... their train set their rules, you choose to go by them and be here, or you go elsewhere.quenlinlom said:
True, but hey, if you're going to make a comic strip that will obviously piss off some people, might as well include the Evangelion fans as well, it is there go to joke after all.Frostbite3789 said:
That is genius, good sir, if Grey and Carter read this thread and plan to include the White Guy Defence Guy more in the future, I hope they read this comment.McMarbles said:
You seem reasonable, I will ask you what does the atheist have anything to do with this comic? I see no religious or anti-religious iconography, or speech on/from any of these characters.itsthesheppy said:
So, let's try to pull context out of this:
1) Racial minority upset that development group said that "race doesn't matter" but stomps over that with "the character is white because it's relatable". ~~~~Yes, that is racially ignorant of the developers to say. Can't have it both ways, it's one or another: either race does matter because you're targeting a white audience, or race doesn't matter and the nothing is relatable at all, which means the character can be black/white/Latino/whatever.
2) Enter 3 challenged white, heterosexual males with an ignorant statement of being a "minority". And blame Obama for it as well ~~~~Last census in the US still showed 'whites' as the majority (though estimated to change by 2025). Furthermore, the lauding that sexuality or sex separate one's self within their own "racial group" is absurd. I guess this joke is created by the simple fact that white heterosexual males are threatened by female progressiveness, homosexuals, and minorities all at the same time. Funny because it's true. Also, Obama has nothing to do with it at all....just a scapegoat for them to blame self delusional issues on.
3) "Sup, baby. You 'mirin?" ~~~ An emphasis made to assert that these "lunks" only see females as sexual objects that admire their physical presence.
4) Friend Zone/Son Zone. ~~~ I honestly don't quite get the context of this joke. I'll throw a guess that "son" is the white Jersey version of saying "homie", where as "friend" is like in the context of a common word similar to that of Candians use - ex. "Hey, friend". Maybe I'm misunderstanding the joke because I'm not tied to the MTV sewage subculture? I hope that's the reason.
5) "Zimmerman Mode" ~~~ You really went there? Okay, this one has me baffled. I mean, the whole situation was a painful one, but it was a bunch of people yelling "racist" over a crazy man who thought a kid in a dark hoodie, going around the neighborhood late at night, was breaking into houses on his street. Paranoia kicked in and he stalked the hooded figure with a gun...got his ass kicked (don't deny it either, the police reported as such besides the images of him with bloody head wrappings), used said gun, and shot the kid. Zimmerman was Latino, not white...so that's why I'm lost on it's relation to this comic joke. The problem with the whole Zimmerman situation is that the parents of the kid (who couldn't bother fully explaining why their teenager was in that neighborhood, that late at night), as well as other figureheads ('Reverend' Jessie Jackson) were all trying to play the race card in a tragedy that seemed to be at fault of both parties without consideration of race pre-shooting.
Parts of the joke are lost in some context that I don't quite get, but the overall joke of "white heterosexual male 'lunks' are complete idiots" I did enjoy. Thank you.
1) Racial minority upset that development group said that "race doesn't matter" but stomps over that with "the character is white because it's relatable". ~~~~Yes, that is racially ignorant of the developers to say. Can't have it both ways, it's one or another: either race does matter because you're targeting a white audience, or race doesn't matter and the nothing is relatable at all, which means the character can be black/white/Latino/whatever.
2) Enter 3 challenged white, heterosexual males with an ignorant statement of being a "minority". And blame Obama for it as well ~~~~Last census in the US still showed 'whites' as the majority (though estimated to change by 2025). Furthermore, the lauding that sexuality or sex separate one's self within their own "racial group" is absurd. I guess this joke is created by the simple fact that white heterosexual males are threatened by female progressiveness, homosexuals, and minorities all at the same time. Funny because it's true. Also, Obama has nothing to do with it at all....just a scapegoat for them to blame self delusional issues on.
3) "Sup, baby. You 'mirin?" ~~~ An emphasis made to assert that these "lunks" only see females as sexual objects that admire their physical presence.
4) Friend Zone/Son Zone. ~~~ I honestly don't quite get the context of this joke. I'll throw a guess that "son" is the white Jersey version of saying "homie", where as "friend" is like in the context of a common word similar to that of Candians use - ex. "Hey, friend". Maybe I'm misunderstanding the joke because I'm not tied to the MTV sewage subculture? I hope that's the reason.
5) "Zimmerman Mode" ~~~ You really went there? Okay, this one has me baffled. I mean, the whole situation was a painful one, but it was a bunch of people yelling "racist" over a crazy man who thought a kid in a dark hoodie, going around the neighborhood late at night, was breaking into houses on his street. Paranoia kicked in and he stalked the hooded figure with a gun...got his ass kicked (don't deny it either, the police reported as such besides the images of him with bloody head wrappings), used said gun, and shot the kid. Zimmerman was Latino, not white...so that's why I'm lost on it's relation to this comic joke. The problem with the whole Zimmerman situation is that the parents of the kid (who couldn't bother fully explaining why their teenager was in that neighborhood, that late at night), as well as other figureheads ('Reverend' Jessie Jackson) were all trying to play the race card in a tragedy that seemed to be at fault of both parties without consideration of race pre-shooting.
Parts of the joke are lost in some context that I don't quite get, but the overall joke of "white heterosexual male 'lunks' are complete idiots" I did enjoy. Thank you.
Why is it bad that he made the guy asking the question black? That kind of makes sense.quenlinlom said:The author bites his own hands.
Also; You do realize the answer to the question is that race does matter right?
Kind of true[sub](usually)[/sub], but you shouldn't go down to their level. Then you just look as bad as them. Sorry Fargo, but you could have and should have handled that much better.FargoDog said:
This comic does a complete 360 in hating reactionary extremists and flies directly around into being smug and condescending in the same fashion as said reactionary extremists.
Like is that the joke? Can we not excessively push hot button issues on the escapist for views anymore?
Oh well... I suppose I should just stop reading these. They've just turned into another echo chamber on the escapist for the author to get up on a soap box every week and spout how great they are for having a political belief, ad nauseam.
kk... Done with Critical Miss too now.
Like is that the joke? Can we not excessively push hot button issues on the escapist for views anymore?
Oh well... I suppose I should just stop reading these. They've just turned into another echo chamber on the escapist for the author to get up on a soap box every week and spout how great they are for having a political belief, ad nauseam.
kk... Done with Critical Miss too now.
Maybe it's added irony to what the character is saying about "white heterosexual males"? After all, those of that same 'type' have issues with trying to make sure to prove their own sexuality while still enjoying a show abut magical rainbows and talking unicorns.Caramel Frappe said:
Captcha: Bridgestone Rebate
I don't know what to call this stuff Critical Miss has been doing, if it is "white knighting" or what, but I want it to stop and I want them to get back to making motherfucking video game comics. Can you do that please?
And I ain't even white.
And I ain't even white.