WHITE GUY DEFENSE FORCE GO!

[Vegosiux]

So do I get my ban now, or later?

Later. Much later. It's actually an eight-strike-rule around here. (more if you lay low for a while!)

I'm starting to get increasingly intrigued about the imminent memetic status of this particular comic though. I wonder how long it will last.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

WHITE GUY DEFENSE FORCE GO!

*Guitar Solo*

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Keep up the good work. I'm sure messages like yours have convinced more then few people to withhold from supporting games that they expect someone like yourself would approve of. It's not quite unlike a scene in Django Unchained, where Christoph Waltz's character does something dumb and almost completely fucks up the situation beyond the possibility of repair because he can't handle Leonardo DiCaprio's character being such a pitch-perfect asshole. Of course, in the movie Django goes on to singlehandedly win the day and then rides off into the sunset. Which is a little different from our reality, where this ongoing argument is more likely to fragment the gaming industry in such a way that will leave the people whom you claim to champion worse off then before you started fighting on their behalf.

 

[bunji]

Later. Much later. It's actually an eight-strike-rule around here. (more if you lay low for a while!)

I'm starting to get increasingly intrigued about the imminent memetic status of this particular comic though. I wonder how long it will last.

A week, 2 at most. The only webcomic I can remember turning into a meme (besides xkcd) is ctrl alt delete and this does not have the same memetic potential as that miscarriage.

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I swear no more, this one was just so spot on. Also knowing /pol/ from where these fabolous edits are coming from, this will be forgotten by morning.

 

[Gizen]

So do I get my ban now, or later?

Your edit would be more effective if that had been the response the black man had actually received. But then, if it was, he in turn would likely have also used a different argument. Different reasonings deserve different responses afterall. But I'm assuming you're either trolling for attention, or incapable of understanding that different situations are different?

 

[bunji]

So do I get my ban now, or later?

Your edit would be more effective if that had been the response the black man had actually received. But then, if it was, he in turn would likely have also used a different argument. Different reasonings deserve different responses afterall. But I'm assuming you're either trolling for attention, or incapable of understanding that different situations are different?

Not even my shoop, but it kinda highlights how dumb that sentence is.

 

[Scarecrow]

The level of buttfrustraion pleases me greatly.

Kind of offtopic but butthurt makes some sense to describe someone getting bent out of shape over nothing, but buttfrustration just sounds like a euphemism for constipation.

I just think buttfrustion is more fun to say than butthurt. Don't ask me why...just has more of a ring to it.

 

[Nightmare99]

Love it!!!
Best Critical Miss in a long time.

 

[bunji]

All in all, the only feasible solution is to treat people the way you want to be treated and don't freak out if something comes across as potentially offensive, since chances are it's not meant to be.
Making a flamebait comic that spawns 17 pages of debate is not the way to go.

Man youre taking it too seriously, anyone who matters can see through shit like this like cellophane, just have fun with all the buttdevastated SJWs

 

[Infernal Lawyer]

Okay, I read through all 17 pages... And NONE of you guys noticed the Beta Male throwing his MLP doll over his shoulder when he was reaching for his gun? And that he didn't even try to pick it back up? Really? I am disgusted with the lot of you.
Wait, what's that? This was all about Racism?
Um.
Oh, I don't care, this shitstorm is too volatile for me. Have your fun, guys.

 

[Scarecrow]

All in all, the only feasible solution is to treat people the way you want to be treated and don't freak out if something comes across as potentially offensive, since chances are it's not meant to be.
Making a flamebait comic that spawns 17 pages of debate is not the way to go.

Man youre taking it too seriously, anyone who matters can see through shit like this like cellophane, just have fun with all the buttdevastated SJWs

Buttdevastated! Thank you...that's an even better one. I'll be using that in the future. And yeah, to add on to this discussion, I'm a bit confused as to why it's gotten so large. I didn't know white people had it so hard that they broke down in tears when they got made fun of.

 

[Vegosiux]

Alright, before I go to bed, I think I found the solution, at least a temporary one. From now on, every protagonist's race should be "enchanted motorcycle". I'm also high on sleep deprivation so please don't take me too seriously, but this is the most coherent response I can whip up after being through these 18 pages twice. My brain hurts.

 

[Gizen]

Oh what the hell? What the hell is this comic? Seriously? You guys think this comic is accurate? That it's slinging hard truths? Are you really, by some unfathomable mental gymnastics, able to rationalize it as anything other than a strawman argument based on offensive stereotypes?

And for fuck's sake, stop bringing up "euphoric". The quote that came from was a parody to begin with.

Who said it was accurate and slinging hard truths? I've read the entire thread, but I started this morning so maybe I missed that part.

I'd say it takes a bit more mental gymnastics to think this comic was actually meant to be an argument as opposed to just mocking parody.

The comic is basically on the same level as this

So what, you lot are offended by a mocking comic and have to accuse it of making an argument when it's just mocking? You seem to have nothing to say about what I actually asked and posted.

It was making an argument in the first panel. Then it suddenly brings in straw opponents of that argument to mock. So it's exactly like the cartoon I just posted.

Okay so you're incredibly offended by it and lying about it.

It showed an argument. It did not make one against those people. There being an argument in it does not mean it is making that argument. The point of the comic does not seem to be about his argument, it seems to be to mock people who react poorly to it. Not by saying it actually represents them.

But please, keep insisting repeatedly. I'm sure you'll consistently fail to give a reason to think it was trying to present anything but a mockery.

I have you just insist I haven't. That seems to be a pattern with you. If after 3 or 4 posts you haven't convinced the person they're right you start getting condescending, nitpicky and more insistent .

Notice how unlike you I actually said something about the comic and what is in it. You just complain about me instead of replying to the refutation. WGDF ftw I guess?

I've already said something about the comic. That it paints one side as calm and reasonable and then has a bunch of opponents to that view who act like idiots who shout irrelevant crap. It's like a bad political cartoon (incidentally I got that image from an article about bad political cartoons).

Yes, it's pairing a straight man with some lunatics. That's a commonly used trope in comedy.

Also a commonly used trope by pundits and in political cartoons.

Yes, because political cartoons, though they often fail, usually at least strive for some degree of light comedy, and so do some pundits, if we're talking about the likes of Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert.

So do I get my ban now, or later?

Your edit would be more effective if that had been the response the black man had actually received. But then, if it was, he in turn would likely have also used a different argument. Different reasonings deserve different responses afterall. But I'm assuming you're either trolling for attention, or incapable of understanding that different situations are different?

Not even my shoop, but it kinda highlights how dumb that sentence is.

Except that sentence isn't dumb, because there's a perfectly valid reasoning behind it. Most video game characters/heroes are white. Not all the people who play video games are white. Some of them are black. A larger % of the video game playing population is black than the % of video game heroes. Maybe they might like to have a character who looks like them some of the time? Not all the time, just, you know, some of the time. Maybe bring that % up a bit to be a bit closer to the % of people who play? So if his race doesn't matter, and he's white, then why not change him to black, because you (you in this case being whoever the black guy was originally talking to) the creator won't care one way or another (since it doesn't matter to you), but it will matter to other people who don't get to see that very often and will appreciate the change.

Does that sentence still seem dumb to you now? If so, why does it seem dumb? Is it because race does matter afterall to you? Well then, why does it matter to you? In the end, it comes down to this. If something doesn't matter to you at all, but it does matter to someone else, why not let them have it their way? If you don't want to let them have it, then clearly it must matter to you, so the question becomes, why?

 

[SidheKnight]

The problems with this comic:

1) It libels George Zimmerman, who has already been found not guilty by a jury.
2) It's offensive to bronies, fedora-wearing atheists, fat people, and white nerds in general.

I do however agree with the points raised by the young black man in the comic.

And I do get pissed when white gamers use the "political correctness" argument to keep the medium as un-diverse and exclusive as possible.

As for white straight males being the only demographic that is still legally able to be discriminated against, it's true. You can relativize the importance of this problem, but you can't deny it's existance.

Again, this doesn't justify the actual discriminating crap minorities and women have to endure in videogames everyday, and it's our responsibility to make this medium as inclusive as possible.

Other than that, I laughed a lot with this comic.

If you think I am mistaken, please let me know.


P.S: If you get banned in this site, do they tell you the reason why? Something tells me I might get banned for this post..

 

[bunji]

All in all, the only feasible solution is to treat people the way you want to be treated and don't freak out if something comes across as potentially offensive, since chances are it's not meant to be.
Making a flamebait comic that spawns 17 pages of debate is not the way to go.

Man youre taking it too seriously, anyone who matters can see through shit like this like cellophane, just have fun with all the buttdevastated SJWs

Buttdevastated! Thank you...that's an even better one. I'll be using that in the future. And yeah, to add on to this discussion, I'm a bit confused as to why it's gotten so large. I didn't know white people had it so hard that they broke down in tears when they got made fun of.

Well the real issue isn't that white people cant take being made fun off. It is that it is socially acceptable to make fun of white CIS males for literally anything, but you do the same with any other denomination and prepare to get all of reddit, tumblr and the escapist crowd after you.