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"Zimmermanmode activate!"
The heck? Zimmerman was hispanic.
And Trayvon attacked him, not the other way around. It was the textbook example of shooting in self-defense.
The fact that you brought the case up at all in this comic and used it as the punchline just makes you seem ignorant.

But I guess pointing that out automatically makes me a racist.
Feel free to ban me now, I guess.
 

Shingro

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Grey Carter said:
My problem isn't with a position, it's with an attitude. The WGDF quite obviously represent a small, but vocal, subset of largely white males who respond to any perceived threat to their cultural dominance with hyperbole and hostility. They also tend to interpret criticism of one sub group as criticism of an entire culture. In that respect, yes, you have proved my point.
Oh no, none of that now. At no point did you start restricting yourself to 'a small, but vocal minority.' You started at 'why can't this character be black' a question which draws all sorts of question about narrative, art and artistic licence and then you just kept expanding the net. You threw a MLP plus in there, you threw the stereotypical 'fat dude' in there, you brought a little hipster in you brought a little 'hittin on the ladies bro' in there. You even brought the whole frikken Zimmerman thing in there. All your actions expanded your net, not restricted it.

Creators can make what they want, they can insult who they want. This is your prerogative as the artist.

But for god sakes. DO NOT politician this, don't 'walk it back 'honest guys I just ment to make fun of the super mega assholes really truly.

Stand up for your work or apologize for letting it get out of hand because of your other opinions but jesus don't pretend you didn't cast a pretty wide ass net.
 

Hover Hand Mode

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JimB said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Isn't the Zimmerman thing moot in this scenario? He's Hispanic, not the cis-hetero white fanboy/jock/hipster types you're parodying.
George Zimmerman is only partially Hispanic. Without bothering to look it up, I believe he's also got some Polish in him.
That's not really the point anyway. He's a hero to white supremacists everywhere because he killed a black kid and got away with it. It's also a commentary on Stand Your Ground laws, which disproportionately protect white shooters and those who shoot black victims. It also creates very flimsy justification for use of deadly force, which the comic is lampooning.
 

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Oh that's nice, so the man who was acquitted of all wrongdoing in a court case broadcast live on TV is still getting shit for defending himself, just because the person who attacked him was black?

Oh and it's nice you hypocrites protest any negative portrayal of everything from women to transexed genderqueer pan-sexual non-binary vegans to the point of personal attacks, but feel it's totally acceptable to make shit like this.
 

ceanji

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Grey Carter said:
Some people are asking for WGDF wallpapers, but fuck them, I'm not their dancing monkey. Here's a very high res pic of the title shot so people can their own wallpapers.

Thanks Grey!
I am putting this up in the locker room of my job.
Cuz the stuff that goes on around there.....
 

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Super Not Cosmo said:
Grey Carter said:
My problem isn't with a position, it's with an attitude. The WGDF quite obviously represent a small, but vocal, subset of largely white males who respond to any perceived threat to their cultural dominance with hyperbole and hostility. They also tend to interpret criticism of one sub group as criticism of an entire culture. In that respect, yes, you have proved my point.
Well I'd like to invite you to take this same idea and make a comics poking fun at Muslim terrorists or cheap Jewish people or maybe lazy blacks on welfare. That wouldn't be offensive in the least because you wouldn't be making fun of the entire culture just a small subset of Muslims that happen to be terrorists or a small subset of Jews that happen to be cheap or a small subset of blacks that happen to be lazy and on welfare. It's their problem if they take your criticism of one sub group as criticism of an entire culture after all. Right?
Isn't the inclusion of Erin Stout showing that not ever white person thinks like that? (besides the fact the creators of the comic are both also white?)
 
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Dansrage said:
Oh that's nice, so the man who was acquitted of all wrongdoing in a court case broadcast live on TV is still getting shit for defending himself, just because the person who attacked him was black?
Why is it that Tayvon is framed as the aggressor, when it was Zimmerman who stalked, confronted, and ultimately shot and killed him, a kid who had only minded his own business and done nothing wrong, doing the first two actions based on a "suspension" (ie: Tayvon was black). It is because he dared to put up resistance against some weird stranger, who obviously wasn't a cop, who had followed him around in a car before suddenly physically confronting him on the street?
 

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Blachman201 said:
Dansrage said:
Oh that's nice, so the man who was acquitted of all wrongdoing in a court case broadcast live on TV is still getting shit for defending himself, just because the person who attacked him was black?
Why is it that Tayvon is framed as the aggressor, when it was Zimmerman who stalked, confronted, and ultimately shot and killed him, a kid who had only minded his own business and done nothing wrong, doing the first two actions based on a "suspension" (ie: Tayvon was black). It is because he dared to put up resistance against some weird stranger, who obviously wasn't a cop, who had followed him around in a car before suddenly physically confronting him on the street?
Because that's not true and if you had followed the case at all rather than just watching the sensationalist media appeal to emotion, you would know the facts.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Isn't the Zimmerman thing moot in this scenario? He's Hispanic, not the cis hetero white fanboy/jock/hipster types you're parodying.
Whether he's hispanic or not is moot. Zimmerman killed a black kid and when Zimmerman mode was activated they killed a black man. The Zimmerman joke is about them killing a black person, not the murderers' race.


I'm actually worried about the comments where kids are idolizing the "Zimmerman mode" joke. One Facebook user even said "I want a Zimmerman mode." Zimmerman killed a kid; it's not something that should be idolized in a joke.
 
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Dansrage said:
Because that's not true and if you had followed the case at all rather than just watching the sensationalist media appeal to emotion, you would know the facts.
Because Fox News isn't sensationalist media, amirite?
 

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My turn, now watch me get banned because it's fine to demean and attack one group but it's a hate crime to attack another.

[http://imgur.com/Z0amKvx]
 

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That comic was so incredibly racist, and filled with stereotyping. Yeah you show people with your hypocrisy. Yeah the comic should be more like this.

"If race doesn't matter, why isn't he a black guy?"

"Because race doesn't matter"


Problem solved, race doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if he is black or white, and you are stirring up race baiting, good job.
 

Dansrage

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thenoblitt said:
That comic was so incredibly racist, and filled with stereotyping. Yeah you show people with your hypocrisy. Yeah the comic should be more like this.

"If race doesn't matter, why isn't he a black guy?"

"Because race doesn't matter"


Problem solved, race doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if he is black or white, and you are stirring up race baiting, good job.
How is it racist when the voice of reason is a black immigrant?
 
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"Well, you see, I, a white person, had a fictional black person expressing my view-point, therefore there is no possible way it could be racist!"
 

Dansrage

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Chaosritter said:
Dansrage said:
thenoblitt said:
That comic was so incredibly racist, and filled with stereotyping. Yeah you show people with your hypocrisy. Yeah the comic should be more like this.

"If race doesn't matter, why isn't he a black guy?"

"Because race doesn't matter"


Problem solved, race doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if he is black or white, and you are stirring up race baiting, good job.
How is it racist when the voice of reason is a black immigrant?
Ever got the idea that racism isn't exclusive to white people?
So who am I being racist against? Is it just a knee-jerk reaction to yell 'racist' at anything you don't like?
 

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/9113-LESBIANS

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Johnathan Grey Carter posted on 9 Sep 2011 9:00 am
Critical Miss

Making out on top of a copy of Skyrim. In Minecraft
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^Sums up the article and the apparent direction Grey is taking this series. Quite disappointing.

Edit: Well technically, since the popular search terms are in the article itself it's not as bad as what was being mocked. I guess?
 

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Blachman201 said:
Why is it that Tayvon is framed as the aggressor,
What do you call it when someone is straddling their victim, "raining down blows" on them? Seems pretty aggressive to me.
when it was Zimmerman who stalked, confronted,
Out of curiosity, do you have any proof to back up the claim that a) Zimmerman stalked[footnote]*Hint* You might want to look up the definition of the word[/footnote] Martin, and b) initiated the confrontation?
 

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I know I'm painting a huge red target on myself for za Flammenwerfer, but you can technically play the game the other way around.
If race truly doesn't matter, why should we make the character black?

Now, I don't really have anything against racial diversity. If the designer want black or yellow people in their games, by all means, do it. If they want a game that consists only of white, black, yellow, rainbow people, I honestly don't care as long as their character is developed and the game is good.
But I have a lot against people who use such flawed arguments and try to make others paint the others as bad. Honestly, there is quite a bit of racism towards white people, whether you like to admit it or not. Even tho you tried to spin the arguments against those who use it doesn't make them any less valid.

But this comic is just shitposting and baiting for views.
 

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I feel physically ill reading this thread, the amount of sheer bigotry by hateful straight white males is unacceptable, seriously when are people going to band together and say "enough is enough", and take steps to get these whites off the internet completely as a start, and further on begin to contain and remove these evil hate filled monsters.
 

Dansrage

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madwarper said:
Blachman201 said:
Why is it that Tayvon is framed as the aggressor,
What do you call it when someone is straddling their victim, "raining down blows" on them? Seems pretty aggressive to me.
when it was Zimmerman who stalked, confronted,
Out of curiosity, do you have any proof to back up the claim that a) Zimmerman stalked[footnote]*Hint* You might want to look up the definition of the word[/footnote] Martin, and b) initiated the confrontation?
Don't bother mate, when a live televised trial with all relevant information and evidence available to anyone who cares enough to look sees a man acquitted of all wrongdoing and they still stick to their guns, then there's no convincing them.
They don't care about logic or evidence, they are emotionally invested in the idea of black people being perpetual victims regardless of reality. They even went as far as to make out a Hispanic man was white and lighten his skin in his mugshot to reinforce this idea of 'white oppressors'. They live in a false reality that doesn't answer to any kind of real-life logic, they even think doctoring and withholding evidence is completely fine because "he's white so he's evil anyway and slavery and apartheid happened or something".
Then they call YOU a racist.

Truth is a black person who happened to be a thug attacked a Hispanic person who happened to be armed.
Now his life is ruined A: because he had to shoot a guy, and B: because the media decided they would make money if they played the race card, which has also caused countless 'revenge' attacks by mobs of black people against whites, which the media is neglectful to mention.