Who else thinks FFVIII needs some spin offs?

JediMB

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Zefar said:
Like, to stop Ultimecia to bend time, IS to let her bend time!

Wait what? :/ Isn't there a BETTER plan than that? Honestly?
The only way to stop Ultimecia from compressing time was to kill Ultimecia. She was in the future, so the only way to get to her would be to allow her to start the time compression process, but kill her before she gets the chance to finish it.

Plus, the future had already happened, so there was no other way it could be done. >_>
 

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Jaqen Hghar said:
ansem1532 said:
So you hate Final Fantasy because it is being hyped by fans of the game?

I though people disliked my favorite game franchise because people weren't into that type of JRPG =/
I guess you're just weird :p
Basically I hate JRPG really. While I love a good RPG :p
I think it's all that... anime-like aspect of JRPGS. Which is what I hate.
Anyway, yes. One of the reasons I hate FF is because all the hype it gets.
Of course I am weird :p Being normal is sooo last year.
Ah, I see. At least "the hype" wasn't your only reason.
 

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As if there aren't enough already. They are on the 13th one, not including the spin-offs. I never got into the FF series and frankly it is getting way out of hand how all they mainly seem to do is have the same exact story, but from a different characters view. Sometimes I don't understand how the series has stayed alive this long.
 

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Depth Charge said:
Only the delusional people who thought FFVIII was somehow a good game would want this. I can't see much interest in this.

I genuinely thought it was a really good game, the junction system was very immersive, the story was by far the best in any final fantasy so far. The chemistry between Squall and Rinoa was epic.
I just think it needs something new
I agree with this.

I did like FF7 a lot when I played through it but FF8 was so much better for me. There should be a sequel made for it, either in game or film form.
 

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N.O.

No!

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Squall was the first emo. I hate him! He's based off of that horrid Japanese singer Gackt who couldn't sing a good song to save his life.

iamapictureframe2 said:
the junction system was very immersive...
My system was to use the same 3 magic spells for pretty much every battle in the entire game. Yeah, very immersive.

the story was by far the best in any final fantasy so far. The chemistry between Squall and Rinoa was epic.
How some prissy girl fancied the most unlikeable character in history of creation? epically stupid if you ask me.

Sure the music was good, and the visuals in some of the locations and cutscenes were fantastic, and the idea of the schools (or 'gardens'_was a noval one, but seriously, lets lay this game (or even franchise) to rest for good.
 

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JediMB said:
Zefar said:
Like, to stop Ultimecia to bend time, IS to let her bend time!

Wait what? :/ Isn't there a BETTER plan than that? Honestly?
The only way to stop Ultimecia from compressing time was to kill Ultimecia. She was in the future, so the only way to get to her would be to allow her to start the time compression process, but kill her before she gets the chance to finish it.

Plus, the future had already happened, so there was no other way it could be done. >_>
They had another option but there are also just tons of plot holes.

Check out the review. It's pretty awesome.
 

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ooooooooooooooooh yyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah
FF8 has about as much right as FF7 to have a spinoff, but it doesnt. why? the closest it gets is kingdom hearts
 

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Ollie596 said:
As long as its not a crappy film sequel like Advent Children, I wouldn't mind it.
Spaz91 said:
Really, I thought that movie was pretty good.
Depth Charge said:
Only the delusional people who thought FFVIII was somehow a good game would want this. I can't see much interest in this.
Only retards and sheep though that FF7 was even playable. FF8 was a brilliant game and deserves so much more attention unlike FF7 which has had every possible drop of money squeezed out, making a string of awful spin offs from an awful game.
Are you calling me a retard? Respect the opinion, my dear sir. And could you verify why you thought it was awful?

OP: I haven't played the game, although I played it for the first hour, I was pretty bored. But it might be good for those who like that sort of thing (which is probably a lot of people).
 

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ansem1532 said:
Ah, I see. At least "the hype" wasn't your only reason.
Hype is a stupid reason to hate something. At least if that is all there is to it.
I like Halo (the games are ok, but I love all the story behind it). I love Bioshock. And probably a lot of other games people hate on because it is popular to hate it.
I tend to go my own way when it comes to these things. And some people mistake that for trolling or going with the flow :/
 

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canadamus_prime said:
No no no no & NO!! The Final Fantasy franchise, it doesn't matter which one you're talking about, doesn't need to be milked anymore then it already has been. Square needs to stop making spin offs to Final Fantasy games and generally milking their already successful franchises and start coming up with some new stuff already!
Says the guy with the DBZ avatar? A franchise still desperately milked to this day long after its original creator has abandoned it...
 

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Jaqen Hghar said:
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yea man i know what you mean. There are a handful of FF titles that i wholeheartedly tried to enjoy and i wanted to. But just couldn't see through to the end for the life of me. 8 Just happening to be one of them.
I have been unable to try others than the first one, 7, 8 and... one more which I don't remember :p This due to me not having a PS. Anyway, when I "grew up" and I saw online that people loved these games, I checked it out. Dug out the stories (this was before wikipedia), found videos (before youtube...) and tried to learn everything about these games. What did I find out? Every game was as boring as I remembered. As for the new combat elements... that doesn't fix the god awful stories. And don't get me started on that pansy Sephiroth!

Anywho, glad to see someone who share my view, at least partially, when it comes to FF. I thought I was alone... *sniff*

Oh, and may the Schwartz be with you!
Loads of people "hate" Final Fantasy mate, you're far from alone :)

Nobody with half a brain is going to force them onto you wither ^^ Best way to deal with fanboys is to leave them to their own discussions, they're not going to change their minds and you won't change yours, let's leave it at that ^^

As for Final Fantasy VIII, I freaking love it. I guess I'm hit by a bad case of "rose tinted nostalgia goggles" and the fact that it's been three or four years since I played it. I just have very fond memories of it. Looking back on it (mostly through other people's complaints) I can see that it's flawed on a lot of points, but when it comes down to it, I prefer to remember it for the good parts.

FFVIII has always struck me as a love-it-hate-it kind of game (with most people hating it). I guess the "stale and lonely guy ends up with the pretty girl" just clicks for some and seems utterly pointless to others. At it's core FFVIII had quite a lot of potential, had they handled the game as well as they did during it's brightest moments it would probably have a much bigger fanbase.

As for prequel/sequel/spinoff I just don't see it happening. Wouldn't rule out a few more guest appearances/crossovers (á la Dissidia/Kingdom Hearts) by the cast though.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
canadamus_prime said:
No no no no & NO!! The Final Fantasy franchise, it doesn't matter which one you're talking about, doesn't need to be milked anymore then it already has been. Square needs to stop making spin offs to Final Fantasy games and generally milking their already successful franchises and start coming up with some new stuff already!
Says the guy with the DBZ avatar? A franchise still desperately milked to this day long after its original creator has abandoned it...
And I despair as much over the milking of the Dragonball franchise as I do about the Final Fantasy franchise or any other franchise, more so in fact. Don't assume so much.
You know what happens when you assume, don't you?
Anyway back to Final Fantasy, I started to lose interest in Final Fantasy the day they released Final Fantasy X-2. The series was greatest when there were no direct sequels or spin-offs and only a few commons elements connected one game to another. I maintain that the franchise started dieing as soon as they started deviating from this formula.
 

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iamapictureframe2 said:
There are actually real gunblades, it works with vibrations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunblade
I didn't see anything in that article about vibrations. But, at least it explains the gun aesthetic, though I still think it makes more sense to have a firearm supplemented by a blade rather than vice versa.
 

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The only FFVIII related spinoff I would buy is a crossover where you can watch/play as Terra grabbing squalls gunblade, stabbing him with it, then pulling the trigger...
 

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WolfmanNougat said:
If only to explain the logic behind *cough*Leon's gunblade. If not, then no. Not that the FFVII spinoffs have really been worth much anyway.
That's like saying, "Well, nobody likes my first cake, I should stop making cake."

There needs to be learning experiences and attempts at varying things up.

The first final fantasy came at what the creators thought would be their company's life because of all their commercial failues. Now look at it.
 

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WolfmanNougat said:
If only to explain the logic behind *cough*Leon's gunblade.
For starters, his name is Squall.

And the point of the gunblade is that you cut into your enemy with it. When the blade is inside, you pull the trigger and detonate a charge inside the barrel, which makes a small explosion shoot out and into the wound for extra damage.
 

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JJDWilson said:
That's like saying, "Well, nobody likes my first cake, I should stop making cake."

There needs to be learning experiences and attempts at varying things up.

The first final fantasy came at what the creators thought would be their company's life because of all their commercial failues. Now look at it.
I suppose you've got a fair point, the only downside being that we were finished eating the first cake a long time ago and plenty more have come since, most recently tasting increasingly stale and strange. Indeed it's always a nice idea to try and improve things, but when many previous attempts at improving something else don't go down too well, then it's time to consider whether it's really a good idea to continue.
Not that it really matters anyway; the fanboys would lap it up no matter what, the casuals may give it a try, and the cynics will stay far away. What it comes down to is, "They could try this if they wanted, but what would it accomplish?"

JediMB said:
For starters, his name is Squall.
I know, and I don't care. Your point?

And the point of the gunblade is that you cut into your enemy with it.
Just as easily accomplished with a perfectly good sword.

When the blade is inside, you pull the trigger and detonate a charge inside the barrel, which makes a small explosion shoot out and into the wound for extra damage.
I was under the impression that this was caused by shockwaves from blank rounds. Either way it doesn't really make much sense. I've just always felt it made more sense to have a melee weapon enhancing a firearm rather than have a sword with a pistol gimmick. Square seem to agree, since gunblades in Dirge of Cerberus and FFXIII implement such. Hell, even Gears of War uses the idea in the form of the Lancer. I know Gears is kind of a different ball park to Final Fantasy, but the point remains, and I'm paraphrasing SpoonyOne here; why have only a melee weapon when enemies use firearms?