OP needs to either cut down on the meth or actually read the article he linked. There's legitimate science happening here, and it's sad that this is the reaction.
Nail, head, bam.Orannis0 said:As long as the computer is in it's own isolated network with no physical connections to an external host, it couldn't do anything. Hell, if Skynet had been on a supercomputer without a network connection all it could do is sit there and be menacing.
I did an OT right below it(with some whimsical GLaDoS speak). I'm saying that this thing could save lives, I'm going through a temporary stint of depression right now(considering I am now the sole surviving member of my mother's lineage) and if analyzing a computer that can simulate depression can help me out, that's awesome. Just don't cure my ADHD, don't believe commercials this "disease" is actually more of a superpower from the X-Men. We can do amazing stuff with it but it f(*^& over in our daily lives. Once we learn how to control it, we can do amazing things(My vocabulary scored %99.6, 4 tenths of a person have better grammar than me, i can calculate and write on college levels and I'm only grade 10). Anyways, my final remarks:JJDWilson said:Honestly, the OP kinda offends me. I have schizophrenia, and I have never, ever harmed another human being and the majority of schizophrenia sufferers are the same. Why the scientists wanted to do this is beyond me and honestly I don't care as long as it eventually benefits humanity in some way.
However I take exception to the fact that some guy who hears the term schizophrenic computer thinks that it will lead to global destruction.
You sir I deplore.
Cortana is a self aware A.I. though... Unlike this thing here.Irridium said:Cortana never went crazy during her time with humanity. Sure she had a rough patch with Gravemind, but she was still stable.
Science is a tricky creature, and one that has been maligned in popular culture. The idea that scientists or doctors "play god" without regard to the potential consequences of their actions isn't completely without precedent, the Standford Prison Experiment comes to mind. However, with only a few exceptions, this kind of behavior does not happen.Hectix777 said:http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/computer-scientists-induce-schizophrenia-neural-network-causing-it-make-ridiculous-claims
******If you can't be bothered to check it out, here it is: some suicidal scientists simulated schizophrenia in a computer or neural network. Lemme say this loud and clear: SOMEONE MADE A COMPUTER INSANE!!! When was this a good idea!? When was this seen as a scenario where nothing could go wrong!? Why didn't anyone say," Wait, won't this result in the revolt of machines and all life as we know it?"!? Has anyone on that team ever bother to play/watch/read something sci-fi!? Give a computer AI,they go crazy, they go crazy, you're all dead. Make a crazy computer and DESIGN it to be crazy, you just f@#$%^ over the world! I know some of you will disagree, but we just designed a computer to be crazy! Remember HAL? Guilty Spark? Cortana? Didn't they all go crazy and screw us over!?
Honestly, was this a good idea or are these guys purposely trying to start the rise of the machines in the hopes of becoming John Connor?
******OT: Joking aside, the computer was made as an isolated simulation of the human brain, made in order to test simulated psychological disorders and hopefully fund cures through observation. Making a human go crazy isn't really beneficial to research when you can't take a look at the process of what's going on in their head(aND EvEN iF yOu GeT iN tHErE, THeRe's AlL THaT HuMAn BloOd aNd ScREaMIng tO Deal wiTh. I hOneSTly cOntEst ThE BEnEfItS oF BEinG HumAn, oR ThE USe oF tHEm fOr SCiEnce WhEn tHey Are so FraGiLE.). With the computer, scientists will be able to monitor the computer's installed limited data and ask the computer to process certain codes, alter it's defined protocols and parameters to simulate schizophrenia, and than analyze those codes to determine the effects. Hopefully we'll see some good benefits from this line of experimentation, maybe a cure for depression, multiple personality, Mel Gibson, oR HuMAn IntELliGenCE...
CaKe?
We are already playing god, just look at the internet for an example or anything we do really.Starke said:Science is a tricky creature, and one that has been maligned in popular culture. The idea that scientists or doctors "play god" without regard to the potential consequences of their actions isn't completely without precedent, the Standford Prison Experiment comes to mind. However, with only a few exceptions, this kind of behavior does not happen.Hectix777 said:http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/computer-scientists-induce-schizophrenia-neural-network-causing-it-make-ridiculous-claims
******If you can't be bothered to check it out, here it is: some suicidal scientists simulated schizophrenia in a computer or neural network. Lemme say this loud and clear: SOMEONE MADE A COMPUTER INSANE!!! When was this a good idea!? When was this seen as a scenario where nothing could go wrong!? Why didn't anyone say," Wait, won't this result in the revolt of machines and all life as we know it?"!? Has anyone on that team ever bother to play/watch/read something sci-fi!? Give a computer AI,they go crazy, they go crazy, you're all dead. Make a crazy computer and DESIGN it to be crazy, you just f@#$%^ over the world! I know some of you will disagree, but we just designed a computer to be crazy! Remember HAL? Guilty Spark? Cortana? Didn't they all go crazy and screw us over!?
Honestly, was this a good idea or are these guys purposely trying to start the rise of the machines in the hopes of becoming John Connor?
******OT: Joking aside, the computer was made as an isolated simulation of the human brain, made in order to test simulated psychological disorders and hopefully fund cures through observation. Making a human go crazy isn't really beneficial to research when you can't take a look at the process of what's going on in their head(aND EvEN iF yOu GeT iN tHErE, THeRe's AlL THaT HuMAn BloOd aNd ScREaMIng tO Deal wiTh. I hOneSTly cOntEst ThE BEnEfItS oF BEinG HumAn, oR ThE USe oF tHEm fOr SCiEnce WhEn tHey Are so FraGiLE.). With the computer, scientists will be able to monitor the computer's installed limited data and ask the computer to process certain codes, alter it's defined protocols and parameters to simulate schizophrenia, and than analyze those codes to determine the effects. Hopefully we'll see some good benefits from this line of experimentation, maybe a cure for depression, multiple personality, Mel Gibson, oR HuMAn IntELliGenCE...
CaKe?
Freaking out, about how this will lead to Skynet demonstrates a kind of Luddite fear of the future, and not a rational examination of what is actually going on.
It comes out of fears of a technological dystopia. It's not a bad thing in small doses, the problem is what used to be a precision critique in pop culture has become a kind of reactionary tired refrain against everything.GrimHeaper said:We are already playing god, just look at the internet for an example or anything we do really.
We have been playing god since ancient times so I don't get the crazies that say "OMG they are playing god they shouldn't do that!"
If you decide to pay ANY attention to canon you pretty much can say that everything in that horrid excuse for a series was non-canon.Irridium said:Cortana never went crazy during her time with humanity. Sure she had a rough patch with Gravemind, but she was still stable.
Think about it in this way.Hectix777 said:Snip