Who Would Pirate the One-Cent Humble Indie Bundle?

[Danpascooch]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.

You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.

I think downloading games is fine so long as you pay for those who earn it, in a perfect world that is. It won't happen in reality.

You used the word "most" that's a big difference from "never ever has ONE not delivered"?

Don't backpedal

 

[Pilkingtube]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

Yes, a team of dozens of people makes something their life work for two years with the aim of delivering a disappointing project. They're going out of their way to make a mediocre game. They don't want to make a good game, no, not at all.

Do you have any idea how absolutely asinine that sounds? Pirating is never justified, whether it's God of War 3 or goddamn Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. If you don't pay for something you should not get to play it.

Oh, and also, everybody knows that if you see a physical copy of "Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing" you enact protocol 41, in which you purchase it no matter the cost and then burn it in fire until only ash and melted plastic remains. One day we shall be free of that game!!

 

[A Pious Cultist]

How do pirates manage to actually download it from the developers site without paying for it instead of filesharing amongst eachother?

I find it very hard to believe that anyone would attempt the ridiculously hard (if not impossible) task of trying to hack the site in order to save a penny.

There server isn't protected. If you'd actually read the blog post you'd see them mention that and the emails they'd gotten from legitimate buyers about it being easier that way.

 

[Veylon]

I believe that the 25% are pirates in the same way that I believe that pirates took down the Assassin's Creed 2 servers down. It's hard to tell why a particular bit of network traffic occurs, so I take this factoid with a spoonful of salt.

 

[Danpascooch]

How do pirates manage to actually download it from the developers site without paying for it instead of filesharing amongst eachother?

I find it very hard to believe that anyone would attempt the ridiculously hard (if not impossible) task of trying to hack the site in order to save a penny.

There server isn't protected. If you'd actually read the blog post you'd see them mention that and the emails they'd gotten from legitimate buyers about it being easier that way.

I don't usually follow the Escapist News Citations, I trust them to report the story fully.

 

[Kurokami]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

Yes, a team of dozens of people makes something their life work for two years with the aim of delivering a disappointing project. They're going out of their way to make a mediocre game. They don't want to make a good game, no, not at all.

Do you have any idea how absolutely asinine that sounds? Pirating is never justified, whether it's God of War 3 or goddamn Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. If you don't pay for something you should not get to play it.

You claimed unprincipled people are the only ones who pirate, yet on principle I wouldn't pay someone for something I don't want. If I could get and try the games for free (which Illegally I can) and only Pay for the ones I'm gonna continue playing instead of having the mass of shit games that makes me oh so terrified to buy something else that looks promising sitting in some bucket most people would mistake for a rubbish bin, yeah I would do it. The whole "gaming is art" debate has sprung into action lately, and believe it or not (as a gamer you've surely encountered this, unless you're extremely lucky or wait for other peoples take on the games) some games don't fit the criteria, they have no redeeming quality and I don't want to reward them for it on any level.

Say what you want, my distrust at the gaming industry was brought on by having trust in them, each time reinforcing the nagging voice in the back of my head telling me not to purchase games. Was it my own fault for buying the game? Sure, but I could have easily avoided it.

An artist may not aim to make a crap painting, but when he does I don't want to pay him to see what it looks like just so he can go on painting.

(Also thought you'd be happy to know for humors sake, I did have to search up the definition for asinine)

 

[Markness]

This makes it obvious that a large proportion either think pirating is easier than buying or that they can't or don't want to pay for stuff through online payment methods. This shows it has nothing to do with cheapness as they could just pay 1 cent for it.

 

[Danpascooch]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

Yes, a team of dozens of people makes something their life work for two years with the aim of delivering a disappointing project. They're going out of their way to make a mediocre game. They don't want to make a good game, no, not at all.

Do you have any idea how absolutely asinine that sounds? Pirating is never justified, whether it's God of War 3 or goddamn Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. If you don't pay for something you should not get to play it.

You claimed unprincipled people are the only ones who pirate, yet on principle I wouldn't pay someone for something I don't want. If I could get and try the games for free (which Illegally I can) and only Pay for the ones I'm gonna continue playing instead of having the mass of shit games that makes me oh so terrified to buy something else that looks promising sitting in some bucket most people would mistake for a rubbish bin, yeah I would do it. The whole "gaming is art" debate has sprung into action lately, and believe it or not (as a gamer you've surely encountered this, unless you're extremely lucky or wait for other peoples take on the games) some games don't fit the criteria, they have no redeeming quality and I don't want to reward them for it on any level.

Say what you want, my distrust at the gaming industry was brought on by having trust in them, each time reinforcing the nagging voice in the back of my head telling me not to purchase games. Was it my own fault for buying the game? Sure, but I could have easily avoided it.

An artist may not aim to make a crap painting, but when he does I don't want to pay him to see what it looks like just so he can go on painting.

(Also thought you'd be happy to know for humors sake, I did have to search up the definition for asinine)

unbelievable, you insult them while stealing from them

 

[Kurokami]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.

You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.

I think downloading games is fine so long as you pay for those who earn it, in a perfect world that is. It won't happen in reality.

You used the word "most" that's a big difference from "never ever has ONE not delivered"?

Don't backpedal

All that means is that you're luckier then me, or perhaps just better at choosing games, or have a lower standard.

For me it remains most.

 

[Frankster]

@KuroKami We live in the age where reviews and gameplay vids are abundant, what you say is NO excuse.

This isnt like the old console days when you would base your purchase of a game on the box art, now you have the tools to go out and inform yourself.

 

[Kurokami]

unbelievable, you insult them while stealing from them

Interesting... particularly since I don't pirate on account of it being illegal... But well done!

And they deserve to be insulted.

 

[Danpascooch]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.

You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.

I think downloading games is fine so long as you pay for those who earn it, in a perfect world that is. It won't happen in reality.

You used the word "most" that's a big difference from "never ever has ONE not delivered"?

Don't backpedal

All that means is that you're luckier then me, or perhaps just better at choosing games, or have a lower standard.

For me it remains most.

There are reviews and demos so that you can decide whether to buy a game, but you use pirating?

I don't believe for a second that you go out and pay them if you pirated it and deemed it to be a great game, not someone like you.

 

[Silver Patriot]

See video for answer.


I jest! I would buy it, i mean, come on, it's as close as physically possible to being free. AND ITS LEGAL!

Even Pirates are supposed to have standards. The people who are pirateing this clearly don't.

Also this box had no locks on it.

 

[John Funk]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

Yes, a team of dozens of people makes something their life work for two years with the aim of delivering a disappointing project. They're going out of their way to make a mediocre game. They don't want to make a good game, no, not at all.

Do you have any idea how absolutely asinine that sounds? Pirating is never justified, whether it's God of War 3 or goddamn Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. If you don't pay for something you should not get to play it.

You claimed unprincipled people are the only ones who pirate, yet on principle I wouldn't pay someone for something I don't want. If I could get and try the games for free (which Illegally I can) and only Pay for the ones I'm gonna continue playing instead of having the mass of shit games that makes me oh so terrified to buy something else that looks promising sitting in some bucket most people would mistake for a rubbish bin, yeah I would do it. The whole "gaming is art" debate has sprung into action lately, and believe it or not (as a gamer you've surely encountered this, unless you're extremely lucky or wait for other peoples take on the games) some games don't fit the criteria, they have no redeeming quality and I don't want to reward them for it on any level.

Say what you want, my distrust at the gaming industry was brought on by having trust in them, each time reinforcing the nagging voice in the back of my head telling me not to purchase games. Was it my own fault for buying the game? Sure, but I could have easily avoided it.

An artist may not aim to make a crap painting, but when he does I don't want to pay him to see what it looks like just so he can go on painting.

(Also thought you'd be happy to know for humors sake, I did have to search up the definition for asinine)

You're absolutely right in that you shouldn't have to pay money for something that isn't good, or that doesn't interest you. If you, say, hate Ubisoft's DRM, then a great way to do that is to not buy their games - vote with your wallet.

But that doesn't mean you get to get the game and play it for free. That's such a childish, self-entitled mindset. If you can't buy something - or don't want to buy something - then you don't get to have it.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

Although I dabble just a bit, I wouldn't do that, I would even give 50 dollars for it (or the full price for four games) because it goes to Charity

 

[Kurokami]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.

You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.

I think downloading games is fine so long as you pay for those who earn it, in a perfect world that is. It won't happen in reality.

You used the word "most" that's a big difference from "never ever has ONE not delivered"?

Don't backpedal

All that means is that you're luckier then me, or perhaps just better at choosing games, or have a lower standard.

For me it remains most.

There are reviews and demos so that you can decide whether to buy a game, but you use pirating?

I don't believe for a second that you go out and pay them if you pirated it and deemed it to be a great game, not someone like you.

You felt the need to wrongfully accuse me TWICE?

There's an edit button next to the quotation on any post you write, I'm not saying this to be condescending or irritating, just helpful. Then again I suppose you could've been unaware that it was my post again that you quoted, or that you simply wanted to post twice.

Demo's aren't available for everything, and I still have some stupid faith in the gaming industry that makes me pre-order, particularly for collectibles for games I think are actually gonna be worth something.

 

[Danpascooch]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.

You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.

I think downloading games is fine so long as you pay for those who earn it, in a perfect world that is. It won't happen in reality.

You used the word "most" that's a big difference from "never ever has ONE not delivered"?

Don't backpedal

All that means is that you're luckier then me, or perhaps just better at choosing games, or have a lower standard.

For me it remains most.

There are reviews and demos so that you can decide whether to buy a game, but you use pirating?

I don't believe for a second that you go out and pay them if you pirated it and deemed it to be a great game, not someone like you.

You felt the need to wrongfully accuse me TWICE?

There's an edit button next to the quotation on any post you write, I'm not saying this to be condescending or irritating, just helpful. Then again I suppose you could've been unaware that it was my post again that you quoted, or that you simply wanted to post twice.

Demo's aren't available for everything, and I still have some stupid faith in the gaming industry that makes me pre-order, particularly for collectibles for games I think are actually gonna be worth something.

I meant to quote you, I'm saying that if "most" of the games you bought were crap, you should have better informed yourself instead of resort to stealing and pretending you pay for it if it's good, I don't buy that shit, maybe your parents do, but not me. Are you saying that if you pirate a game and like it a lot, you go to the store and pay for it because it's not shit?

Don't believe it for a second.

 

[Frankster]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.

You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.

I think downloading games is fine so long as you pay for those who earn it, in a perfect world that is. It won't happen in reality.

You used the word "most" that's a big difference from "never ever has ONE not delivered"?

Don't backpedal

All that means is that you're luckier then me, or perhaps just better at choosing games, or have a lower standard.

For me it remains most.

There are reviews and demos so that you can decide whether to buy a game, but you use pirating?

I don't believe for a second that you go out and pay them if you pirated it and deemed it to be a great game, not someone like you.

You felt the need to wrongfully accuse me TWICE?

There's an edit button next to the quotation on any post you write, I'm not saying this to be condescending or irritating, just helpful. Then again I suppose you could've been unaware that it was my post again that you quoted, or that you simply wanted to post twice.

Demo's aren't available for everything, and I still have some stupid faith in the gaming industry that makes me pre-order, particularly for collectibles for games I think are actually gonna be worth something.

Demos might not be available for everything, but reviews and gameplay vids certainly are.
Sorry but I don't see what the gaming industry has done bad in your example, you're the one that fell for their carrot and readily bit it without any sense of consumer savy, and got punished for it.
Rather then wisening up and making smarther purchases, you instead blame the industry ¬¬

 

[Danpascooch]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.

Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!

Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.

An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.

If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.

You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.

I think downloading games is fine so long as you pay for those who earn it, in a perfect world that is. It won't happen in reality.

You used the word "most" that's a big difference from "never ever has ONE not delivered"?

Don't backpedal

All that means is that you're luckier then me, or perhaps just better at choosing games, or have a lower standard.

For me it remains most.

There are reviews and demos so that you can decide whether to buy a game, but you use pirating?

I don't believe for a second that you go out and pay them if you pirated it and deemed it to be a great game, not someone like you.

You felt the need to wrongfully accuse me TWICE?

There's an edit button next to the quotation on any post you write, I'm not saying this to be condescending or irritating, just helpful. Then again I suppose you could've been unaware that it was my post again that you quoted, or that you simply wanted to post twice.

Demo's aren't available for everything, and I still have some stupid faith in the gaming industry that makes me pre-order, particularly for collectibles for games I think are actually gonna be worth something.

Demos might not be available for everything, but reviews and gameplay vids certainly are.
Sorry but I don't see what the gaming industry has done bad in your example, you're the one that fell for their carrot and readily bit it without any sense of consumer savy, and got punished for it.
Rather then wisening up and making smarther purchases, you instead blame the industry ¬¬

Exactly my point, I certainly won't be using the edit button like he suggested.