If I would, I could. Only problem is that I only use my credit card for die hard emergencies. Way too many people have been screwed over by those.
Actually, this friend of mine is a pirate, he thinks these guys are doing a great thing and deserve recognition.John Funk said:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.
Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!
Sgt. Sykes said:Not everyone has to know about this deal. It's not like people who usually pirate wander around looking for deals. I guess most people would pay a dollar or two, if they knew about this deal, but some just don't know about it. They just find a bunch of games on a sharing site, so they download it.
Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.John Funk said:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.
Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!
How does one pirate directly from the site anyway? I am not asking methodology or how to do it, so don't flip a s--t people, all I'm saying is that I always thought it worked something like this:John Funk said:I see where you're coming from but that's not what I meant, really.Asehujiko said:Perhaps that's exactly what they did? Seeing as how Rosen listed that as one of the reasons for the numbers being as they are?John Funk said:So... get a friend to do it, and pay them back?
You seem to be completely fixated on the assumption that every missing sale is a pirate laughing at them behind his/her keyboard and not any of the multiple other causes mentioned.
I'm perfectly aware that there are people who aren't exactly "pirates" getting this game for free. But you're horribly naive if you don't think that of those 25% unpaid downloads, a good number of them ARE pirates.
If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.Kurokami said:Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.John Funk said:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.
Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!
An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.
Yes, a team of dozens of people makes something their life work for two years with the aim of delivering a disappointing project. They're going out of their way to make a mediocre game. They don't want to make a good game, no, not at all.Kurokami said:Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.John Funk said:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.
Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!
An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.
When you order it they just give you a link to the download page (which is associated with a key). However, you could share that link with anyone and they would easily be able to download the games.danpascooch said:How does one pirate directly from the site anyway? I am not asking methodology or how to do it, so don't flip a s--t people, all I'm saying is that I always thought it worked something like this:John Funk said:I see where you're coming from but that's not what I meant, really.Asehujiko said:Perhaps that's exactly what they did? Seeing as how Rosen listed that as one of the reasons for the numbers being as they are?John Funk said:So... get a friend to do it, and pay them back?
You seem to be completely fixated on the assumption that every missing sale is a pirate laughing at them behind his/her keyboard and not any of the multiple other causes mentioned.
I'm perfectly aware that there are people who aren't exactly "pirates" getting this game for free. But you're horribly naive if you don't think that of those 25% unpaid downloads, a good number of them ARE pirates.
1.) A guy downloads it or rips from disc
2.) Guy posts it online with a torrent file
3.) People get access to the file and download it using the torrent file
How do pirates manage to actually download it from the developers site without paying for it instead of filesharing amongst eachother?
I find it very hard to believe that anyone would attempt the ridiculously hard (if not impossible) task of trying to hack the site in order to save a penny.
I don't take the position that there are no reasons for anyone to ever pirate, but this viewpoint of game developers being a bunch of rich bastards who will milk you for whatever you worth while giving you nothing in return is just wrong, and it bothers me that that opinion seems to be growing in popularity.John Funk said:Yes, a team of dozens of people makes something their life work for two years with the aim of delivering a disappointing project. They're going out of their way to make a mediocre game. They don't want to make a good game, no, not at all.Kurokami said:Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.John Funk said:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.
Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!
An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.
Do you have any idea how absolutely asinine that sounds? Pirating is never justified, whether it's God of War 3 or goddamn Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. If you don't pay for something you should not get to play it.
Or people who want to try it before they buy it. Or people who already own the games. X pirated copies does not translate to X lost sales, the courts have even recognized that.John Funk said:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.
Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!
You've never expected anything from a game that didn't come even close to deliver? Spore? Borderlands? I wish I hadn't paid for the empty promises, I did though.danpascooch said:If you don't like it don't buy it, but don't assume all game companies are rolling in dough and don't care about their customers. If you care enough to pirate it, it's not shit, so your argument doesn't really make sense.Kurokami said:Yeah, we should reward most game developers for being so 'principled' and caring about the consumers as much as they *kaching* do. IMO pirating should be fine for the shitty games that come out, I'm so sick of the gaming industry smearing so much shit in between the already scarce gems out there.John Funk said:I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "ungrateful, self-entitled dicks," that's who.
Hmm. Wow, it's hard to believe that pirates would be this unprincipled. Man, it's almost like the rationalizations that pirates use for their behavior (DRM, price, etc) are actually just flimsy pretenses to get stuff for free. Can you possibly imagine that?!
An overreaction, sure... Hypocritical when you consider that only non-imaginative games are profitable because of pirating, sure... but I'm getting sick of rewarding people who seem to aim at disappointing me.