Why all the hate on Blizzard?

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DoomyMcDoom

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I mildly dislike them... mainly their current tactics... the "Lets release expansions that cost more than other games full releases" tactic, along with the fact that I have no doubt that when they release SC2 in 3 installments(as they already stated they would) it's gonna cost me $180 for all 3 parts... and they're gonna draw em out as long as they can just to build hype and such...

otherwise they produce well made stuff for the most part... it's just the greed aspect that most other companies don't hafta sink to to get customers and money.

I could give a large number of examples, but due to plain lazyness I will leave everyone to look at just about anything and see my point made.
 

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CyberGenesis said:
1) Starcraft is only awesome because it has a story that WORKS and was well written
2) I don't hate Blizzard, i just hate some of the shit they've done. I'm sorry but when you allow people to kill 2 of your main storyline characters (Illidan and Arthas) you can go right ahead and fuck off.
You ever read a book before? Generally the story goes something like this, bunch of heroes, ususpecting or otherwise are pulled into a tale of misfortune where the villain does something to the heroes or is otherwise a massive threat to the world, and thus the heroes go off on a quest to get something to beat the big bad then they kill him (yes kill the villain, shock horror) and have scones and tea to celebrate.

Why is it people are so shocked that we the heroes kill the Villain, what are we supposed to do, just let Arthas kill the world, yes thats sensible, right?
 

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Well, they're the kind of bastards who (apparently) still think that auto-attacking for weapon skill (divided into several completely separate weapon types) is a good mechanic for an MMO. Everything they make is quite polished, but they do have some philosophical confusions that allow me to hate some of what they do even though they generally make very high quality games.
 

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joe the janitor said:
They dropped brutal legend then sued them saying they still owned them. That's why I hate blizzard. Although that was after they merged with activision.
What? No they didnt, ACTIVISION sued Double Fine you dolt, Blizzard had nothing to do with it, Activision may own them, but that doesnt mean Blizzard sued them, ugh... For a start Activision originally owned Brutal Legend then dropped it and sued EA/Double Fine when they picked it up, where the hell does Blizzard come into that?
 

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Zeeky_Santos said:
Welcome to the internet.

Allow me to elaborate.

In the real world, if people say something bad or do something unfavorable; they get shot down, burnt or just generally have negative consequences occur as a result.

On the internet, People still have the power to say or do negative things, such as insult blizzard, yet there are no consequences it is quite the reverse. People say something good or positive about something people dislike and they get shot down.
Effectively the internet is not a "hate machine", but a "reason to hate machine".


This Blizzhate is just on example of mankinds' inability to see morality through any medium other than person to person in real life encounters.
I freaking love you.
 

CrysisMcGee

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I am officially a fanboy of blizzard. I own every blizzard product. But this comes from them making awesome games, all of which I love.

The hatred comes from WoW, mostly. A lot of people haven't played the other games they have made. Also, Starcraft is great, but I certainly don't bow down for it. It's a fun game, I just don't see how people obsess over it.
 

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I don't hate Blizzard as such but if I'm not playing either Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2 in the next several months I'm gonna go on a murderous rampage.
 

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because they earn millions per month and still charge us for exspantions that just waste ppl's lifes a little bit longer - i my self do no play wow i just have a oppinion-
 

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I have no idea why people would hate on Blizzard. While WoW had a pay to play system, it was still one of the best MMOs.
 

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CyberGenesis said:
1) Starcraft is only awesome because it has a story that WORKS and was well written
2) I don't hate Blizzard, i just hate some of the shit they've done. I'm sorry but when you allow people to kill 2 of your main storyline characters (Illidan and Arthas) you can go right ahead and fuck off.
Did you have a problem when you killed Kel'Thuzad (for the first time) in the Warcraft III Human Campaign? Mal'ganis in the same one? How about when you killed Uther in the Undead campaign? Tichondrius in the Night Elf campaign? Gul'dan in Warcraft II's orc campaign?

Oh, you did most of those with major lore characters on your side? Well guess what: when raids killed Illidan in The Burning Crusade, they did it with the help of both Akama and Maiev, two powerful heroes in their own right. And you can bet your ass that Tirion Fordring and probably some other people like Mograine, Sylvanas and Saurfang will be involved with the demise of Arthas.

But even if that wasn't the case, soldiers of the horde and alliance could easily kill heroes in Warcraft III, so what on Earth are you complaining about? So these 'main storyline characters' aren't absurdly powerful like the superlative characters in awful anime, so what? Maybe Blizzard's message is that trying to maintain power over others in the World o' Warcraft is a dangerous game where individual strength is not enough to ensure survival. And isn't that just a bit more believable than the opposite?

Or are you just prone to whining about a story killing off the main antagonists? In that case, you might want to whine about pretty much every novel with a violent hero, and especially every video game with a more or less happy ending. The end of Macbeth must have just been awful for you. No man of a woman born could slay him! He was invincible!
 

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people will have reasons, personal or otherwise, idiotic and completely legitimate.

my dislike of this company comes from how they used to be a humble workshop that seemed to care more about making good games than making lots of money, and now..

Calibretto said:
rofl games as art
games need to make money mate thats the company's primary concern
and no company invests in its artist as much as blizzard do.
you sound like a southern state yokel

i dont like blizzard anymore cause i HAET this kind of gluttonous attitude


theyve done a lot of great things but it seems the breath of fresh air is over

ill be honest, im looking forward to starcraft 2 and diablo 3, but i dont like the COMPANY anymore. and i am SO not looking forward to playing upwards of 160$ for starcraft 2. remember back in the old days when youd get a mission pack for a good RTS with like 60+ missions on it for like 30 bucks? THATS an expansion pack, theyre releasing the same game 3 times under some guise of freedom of choice so that they may charge more, ill be a son of a ***** how sleazy that tactic is. thats the kind of shit id expect from EA

/wrists
 

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antiwheat said:
I hate Blizzards! They're just so damn cold!
not really, it can't snow if the temp is below a certain level, i think it's - 10 C or so

joe the janitor said:
They dropped brutal legend then sued them saying they still owned them. That's why I hate blizzard. Although that was after they merged with activision.
the brutal legend thing had nothing to do with blizzard, it was activision who was doing brutal legend
 

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Because they turned a great fantasy RTS into an MMORPG.
Nah , I don't really hate Blizzard.
 

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I like Blizz, and WoW. Although WoW really did fuck up the whole Warcraft story, and they give out some pretty awesome prizes out at European conventions WHICH I CANT AFFORD TO GO TO!

But as I originally said, Blizzard is good, and they have a sense of humor (Space Marine Murloc), but they are flawed.
 

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Another thing I've started to wonder is how people can justify that WoW is a "click on stuff and auto attack" style MMO. It's not. Right from the start you get at least two abilities no matter which class you are that you can use to help kill stuff. By the time you get to level 80 you will have over 100. Sure, you do have to click on your enemy ONCE to select them (or just press Tab), but after that you have to press other buttons yo use your different abilities, and, if it's a boss, maneouver (spelling?) around their attacks.

Solo play in WoW is a big grindfest, and I dislike that.
Group play in WoW is crazy fun, especially when it's people that you know in real life (I have about 10 real life friends that play WoW) and if you have voice communication.

The main problem I see with the game (no, it's not perfect) has to do with the restrictions on where you can play. If you start a character one on server and your friends are on another server, someone will have to transfer servers, which costs $25 now THAT is excessive, server transfer should be free or like $5. I'm also glad that they finally added a faction / race change mechanic, but that costs $35!

I'm fine with paying $15 a month to play my favorite game, but having to pay these extra costs (if I even do) to move my characters around to play with my friends really pisses me off. But that's just one aspect I hate, I still love Blizzard for making this awesome game.
 

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michael_ab said:
Sci-Fi luver437 said:
Starcraft? The best RTS ever? Sarcasm? A yes!

Starcraft is not a great game. Neither a good one. Warcraft speaks awesome. Wow speaks average fun. Diablo speaks bad graphics and not-mah-kind-of-thing.

Starcraft copyed some of the best. Yes the best SCIENCE FICTIONAL UNIVERSES EVER!

Aliens.Predator.WH40K(not heavily) and Starship Troopers. This may not be fact. But the lore and design certainly looks like it.
soo, you hating on starcraft because it was banking on spaceships and aliens, something every single entertainment company of any kind was doign at the time??

name a REAL TIME STRATEGY game that can completly top starcraft, if you have a list (which i doubt) start from the beginning and work to present day
Give me every single RTS that ever existed and let me play them. Then I can determine the best RTS ever. By the way, I said SC isn't the best RTS because there's probably another RTS out there that is better but which I don't know.

There can never be a best game of any genre because every person has different opinions but when mashed up and altered, can have the same opinion on a game. Star Craft may be a certain number of peoples Best RTS ever but it is not mine.

Because the balancing is horrible.

I have the strategy guide book for both games and in the Terran general strategy there is only 2 things to do with offense! The rest are all defense, base-building and etc. Zerg and Protoss are all build this to annihilate the enemy or spam zerglings for a quick win!

Also other companies may of been doing the same thing at the time but SC is the only one worth noticing because of all the love for it. Give me 5 games that have been doing the same thing as SC at the time as SC was being created or released.

P.S Next time please use spell check.
 

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Syvari said:
Anyways, where is all this hate coming from?
Primarily, its because they got bought out by Activison, who seem intend on mining it for money before throwing the corpse in a ditch.

By the way, Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 look awesome.
For example, lets look at Starcraft 2, a game I was looking forward too. But now, if you want the whole single player plot (like me), you have to shell out for each part because of Activison's profit goals. And don't get people started on the LAN multiplayer stuff.

Diablo 3, not sure what's being destroyed in that to carve a path for profit, but I'm sure their will be.

As for WoW; well, its up to MMORPG players to see if they feel what's going on is alright - I think they've put in safe guards to disconnect people after so many hours play, so it seems as if they are at least thinking about their corporate responsiblity.
 

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They have a lot of money because they are doing something RIGHT, that in Blizzards case being the making of awesome games.
World of Warcraft = NOT an awesome game.

World of Warcraft = an addictive game.

A game which hogs a ridiculously large percentage of the total amount of MMORPG players world wide. Effectively making it a lot harder for possibly better MMORPG's to get a shot at the market.

Now someone might say "Well, if these 'other' MMO's actually were better than WoW, people would quit playing WoW." Let me be the first to pop that illusion for you. Most gamers have invested themselves in WoW. Not just by buying the game an dpaying monthly fees but a lot of other things (grinding up player characters, paying real money for in-game equipment, made a commitment to in-game guilds etc. etc.), and of course Blizzard is promoting this.

But if you really look at WoW, it isn't that great a game. The graphics could certainly be better and more realistic, the gameplay is repetitive and unecessarily time consuming etc.

There is so much more that could be done with the MMO format, but because the majority of MMO players are all WoW-junkies that simply won't abandon it to check up on something that could be a lot better, the evolution of the MMO format is quickly becoming stagnant.

Personally I hold a grudge against most companies and people who practice something that's counterproductive towards progress...