Why All the Hate on Naruto?
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Because it just isn't that good, and sadly, yes, it IS over hyped. I don't really hate on things to excess, especially since when Naruto came out, I watched it religiously I'll admit, but that show has come to represent for me a negative in anime. Its so freaking popular, and its just second rate anime (IMO) that is the most popular manga in the USA somehow, when I read/watch stuff so much better consistently (again, IMO but I could easily gather supporting agreements). The premise I originally thought was cool just slowly was stretched to thin over time. I stopped watching after the Naruto/Sasuke (thats spelled wrong probably, I know) battle at the waterfall before sasuke basically goes all darkside on the ninjas. Why? Because like a couple people said above:Thaius said:
Naruto in anime's COD.
the vast majority watch it, and are exposed to almost no other classic or new up and coming shows, or just skim the surface of the wealth of material available. Its a second rate title that all the more devoted fans of anime see favored by people who are hardly anime fans at all, but have etched their way into the anime community because of naruto. And naruto is a cliche of sooooo much of anime and japanese culture, to the point that its almost a parody. Ninjas, ninjas, ninjas! and not even an interesting portrayal! these guys aren't ninjas. not once to they do any subtle sneaking, assassination work, or infiltration and stealth, but instead have face to face battles with flashy powers that drag on for multiple episodes longer than necessary with needless amounts of backstory that begs us to give a shit about every character we meet, and its just not that interesting after a while when the pacing is so stretched over a continually tense moment! (dbz suffered from the prolonged battle and poor pacing, also.)
It just not. that. good. If you like it, fine, I don't judge, but it has the COD stigma of being a shallow experience representative of a broad and deep area of entertainment. also, from what I hear, recent manga developments have been shit, according to my friends who read. Leaf village gone? they kill over done Pain villain yet?
Theres a thousand other titles that deserve naruto's level of attention to detail in the anime or popularity. like Berserk or Gantz perhaps.
Everything Naruto, and by extension Bleach, does is done better by One Piece. So I watch that instead.
I don't hate Naruto. Well sort of... >>
I hate parts of it.
. It's very inconsistent... I loved the Chunin exams. I loved the battle with the sound 4. Just about every Akatsuki fight kicked ass as well. However, the series has many more bad story bits as well. Like when they find Tsunade, The Genin training bit, filler arch, and finding that stupid turtle... as some examples.
Also, I hate Sasuke and Naruto. Most of the other characters are pretty interesting though.
I hate parts of it.
. It's very inconsistent... I loved the Chunin exams. I loved the battle with the sound 4. Just about every Akatsuki fight kicked ass as well. However, the series has many more bad story bits as well. Like when they find Tsunade, The Genin training bit, filler arch, and finding that stupid turtle... as some examples. Also, I hate Sasuke and Naruto. Most of the other characters are pretty interesting though.
Just watching somebody play the PS2 game, and it's sort of..faggy. Not in the homophobic sense, more the medical, as Seanbaby would say.
okay, just have to say, like hell are the first 3 star wars "master pieces on cinema". bull. the empire was defeated by fucking teddy bears. episode 6 was a god awful thing in the second half. 4 was great for a quirky space opera, 5 pretty damn good too. after that, wheres the war in star wars? it became all about Anakin and Padmae's woefully uninteresting romance and the jedi.kouriichi said:
yeah, george lucas doesn't so much write as he does vomit from a pen. had to let it be known.
sure, but only in things i know how to do. you wouldn't ask a hydraulics specialist to fix your corroborator, nor would you ask a gastroenterologist to perform brain surgery. like wise, a sequential arts expert probably shouldn't be directing motion pictures. sure, they're related, but that doesn't make them the same thing.BNguyen said:
though someone else insisted that Kishmoto has no influence on the anime, so at the very least that frees him of any responsibility for the poor state of the anime.
Problem with Naruto fillers is that they can range from "fucking perfect" to "I killed myself by 24 minutes". Most of the fillers that were inbetween the timeskip were great for the most part, but stuff like the fillers that are coming out right now are just garbage. They are just oneshot episodes instead of maybe some 3-4 episode story or something.
Problem with the flashbacks is that like the fillers the quality and reason to have them fell off a cliff. The flashbacks are just tedious and most of them stopped having any character develop or important information that the audience wants to know. We don't need a 5th instance of Naruto noticing that Sasuke has always been an evil douchebag. And monologues are basically the same way, pretty forced and poorly timed. Hell in recent anime, the Danzo fight. The whole issue with that fight is Danzo has a limited time and stamina for his magical-eye-bullshit no jutsu yet he keeps stopping the fight for 10 minute stretches of monologue.
Also on a unmentioned note the artwork is all over the fucking place in anime and manga. We all probably seen the "my pain is greater" faces. Yet even in the manga recent chapters have entire pages that are just rough-draft drawings or are just lazy as all hell (no shading and the like).
Naruto really needs to just pace itself better and have some quality control.
Edit: Damn I forgot to mention all the worthless characters that are introduced and never mentioned or used properly. Ya aspiring writers don't bring up named characters who you don't introduce to the audience and when every other character knows who they are and hope we like them without knowing who in the fuck they are. Also Kishimoto needs to actually show off the long term characters who still haven't had anything to do.
Problem with the flashbacks is that like the fillers the quality and reason to have them fell off a cliff. The flashbacks are just tedious and most of them stopped having any character develop or important information that the audience wants to know. We don't need a 5th instance of Naruto noticing that Sasuke has always been an evil douchebag. And monologues are basically the same way, pretty forced and poorly timed. Hell in recent anime, the Danzo fight. The whole issue with that fight is Danzo has a limited time and stamina for his magical-eye-bullshit no jutsu yet he keeps stopping the fight for 10 minute stretches of monologue.
Also on a unmentioned note the artwork is all over the fucking place in anime and manga. We all probably seen the "my pain is greater" faces. Yet even in the manga recent chapters have entire pages that are just rough-draft drawings or are just lazy as all hell (no shading and the like).
Naruto really needs to just pace itself better and have some quality control.
Edit: Damn I forgot to mention all the worthless characters that are introduced and never mentioned or used properly. Ya aspiring writers don't bring up named characters who you don't introduce to the audience and when every other character knows who they are and hope we like them without knowing who in the fuck they are. Also Kishimoto needs to actually show off the long term characters who still haven't had anything to do.
Lets see almost all the character are over used shoenen stereotypes. the story is startingto run on way longer than it should the endless fight scenes are reptative is starting to follow the formulay of (enemy strong, enemy has obscure weakness, dedicate at least 4-15 minutes describing that weakness,6-10 minutes of preparing to attack, continue next episode) and when u have alot of strong enemies the fun begins
I can agree. George Lucas is a hack, and should be kept away from pen and paper. But its the third highest grossing film series of all time. He had to do something right for it to be there.Wintermute_ said:
And yes, the Prequel was bad. I wont argue that. But the original trilogy was an amazing series, ruined by the prequel made there after.
I think I've replied to this once before. Naruto is just very bland shonen in my opinion. I liked a couple characters and it was okay but got boring very fast. It's not utter shit but as I dig deeper and find more interesting and better done manga or anime, stuff like Naruto and Bleach just don't hold up.
Especially anime-wise. 26 episodes of concentrated awesome is just infinitely better than 220 episodes of sloppily animated, filler... filled patience excercises.
Especially anime-wise. 26 episodes of concentrated awesome is just infinitely better than 220 episodes of sloppily animated, filler... filled patience excercises.
Also, this. Just this. I only read the manga but even then it's the one thing that made me stop buying Naruto and makes me wonder why I'm still reading Bleach.Lance Axel said:
Uggg. Because it had the same premise as Dragon Ball Z. The episode begins with a long recap of the last episode, then there's 5 minutes of heavy breathing by the combatants. During that fun time of watching someone's chest heave up and down, you pan over the other characters who add basically, oh my gosh! He's really pushing himself! Then you throw out another attack, the other person dodges it or gets nicked by it. Oh no!! What was that strange new attack? FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL Z. The Freeza saga was too long for a planet that was about to explode.
But sorry, Naruto generally does the same basic equation. Hopefully it's not going to continue as long as One Piece with its 400+ episodes. Hell, I liked Bleach until they got bogged down with filler, overdrawn explanations and heavy breathing. Geeze! Cut the run time in half and you have a decent Anime. Lastly, how many times are we going to flashback into the past where Naruto was all alone and sad. GET OVER IT!
Now the funny thing is that nobody will read this because it's long and doesn't have 5,000 spaces.
But sorry, Naruto generally does the same basic equation. Hopefully it's not going to continue as long as One Piece with its 400+ episodes. Hell, I liked Bleach until they got bogged down with filler, overdrawn explanations and heavy breathing. Geeze! Cut the run time in half and you have a decent Anime. Lastly, how many times are we going to flashback into the past where Naruto was all alone and sad. GET OVER IT!
Now the funny thing is that nobody will read this because it's long and doesn't have 5,000 spaces.
I don't really hate it. I really like naruto up to the time skip. From there on the stroy becomes way weaker, it should have ended after the pain arc, but Shounen Jump wont let Kishimoto end it. I'm of course speaking about the manga here.
The anime is synched (horribly in germany) so you don't get the very good original synch, and there are a horrible lot of fillers in the anime. It just doesn't hold up to comparable titles.
The anime is synched (horribly in germany) so you don't get the very good original synch, and there are a horrible lot of fillers in the anime. It just doesn't hold up to comparable titles.
Actually, in my opinion at least, Ryu isn't all that much more stealthy than Naruto. Sure, he's a great deal quieter and dresses in black, but his fights are just as flashy and he uses Ninja Magic (I can't remember the technical name for it right now) which is very similar to the chakra attacks used in Naruto.Shark Wrangler said:Well to me Naruto is not a real ninja and hes annoying to no end. Hate the plot of the story, the characters, his dumb antics. Everytime I see Naruto I want Ryu from Ninja Gaiden to cut his head off.
Not a real ninja
Real ninja
The main difference, aside from the yelling and wardrobe, is that Ryu slaughters everything that so much as glances, or even thinks, in his direction.
Im thought is it's like more or less, the new DBZ. from wait i can tell its starting to get some people int anime just like DBZ was for me and others.
Because of that it gets overrated people saying its the "shit." (A bit like I was when I was younger with DBZ, But in my defence i tryed to respect other opinion)
I'll be lieing if that the only problem the show has. I havent watched it in a long time because ever time the plot was moving forward a little, it went into filler. That was rough some point in shippuden. That and even when its not filler they try to drag ever scene out a much as possable with: long posys; drawn out flashbacks. the way Naruto constantly goes on about Sasuke you think he real loves him and sometime its just so damn cheese.
Uh, it real is the new dragonball Z. yet again yu can say the same about bleach. All the above shows also have a simaler problem they so damn long! I can't say anything about one piece because I havent see it. i only so it on tv when 4kids had it. so i didn't watch it. Know its 5 to 600 episode long. To fuck if im going into a show that long.
Because of that it gets overrated people saying its the "shit." (A bit like I was when I was younger with DBZ, But in my defence i tryed to respect other opinion)
I'll be lieing if that the only problem the show has. I havent watched it in a long time because ever time the plot was moving forward a little, it went into filler. That was rough some point in shippuden. That and even when its not filler they try to drag ever scene out a much as possable with: long posys; drawn out flashbacks. the way Naruto constantly goes on about Sasuke you think he real loves him and sometime its just so damn cheese.
Uh, it real is the new dragonball Z. yet again yu can say the same about bleach. All the above shows also have a simaler problem they so damn long! I can't say anything about one piece because I havent see it. i only so it on tv when 4kids had it. so i didn't watch it. Know its 5 to 600 episode long. To fuck if im going into a show that long.
Because we wanna see ninjas do awesome ninja things! Not some emo punk whining about his brother (who's actually cooler)