Why All the Hate on Naruto?

[Helios_(DEL)]

appart from the really fucken shit,dumb and just rediculious fillers the anime is seriously one of the best made out there atm it focuses on secondary characters sometimes moreso then naruto and all are unique in there own fighting capabilities, and more importantly its one of those stories that motivates never to give up.

 

[notebook_holder]

My main gripe with it is that it doesn't seem to have a end in sight(Not saying that a show with 300+ episodes or something like that is bad I just feel like anime should have a end). I like to see that the show is winding down,like in Deathnote or Code Geass.

 

[Mafoobula]

There are times when the series becomes so damn in love with its own angsty crap that I find myself skipping whole filler arcs. Filler is one thing, but when it isn't even very good filler, it just comes across as being more about padding.

Good filler: Bleach and One Piece. Maintained the spirit and status quo of the main stories while exploring interesting scenarios, some being downright sci-fi and silly "what if?" stories (the zanpakuto rebellion arc in Bleach comes to mind very quickly). If a portion of the main story can recall something from a filler arc, so much the better (big bad from the Bount filler arc appears in a spirit-quest vision some 100 episodes later). I actually want to watch the filler in Bleach and One Piece
Bad filler: Naruto. Compelling me to skip a dozen or more episodes is never a good thing. The characters introduced in the filler are generally one-dimensional, and no, the predictable no-twist tragic back-story doesn't count. And you never, ever see them again. No, you never see filler characters in One Piece after their 10 episodes of fame are up, but at least while you DO see them, you care about them. When I'm watching Naruto filler, I find myself thinking about how just nuking every-damn-one would make life blessedly simpler.

Problem 2: Filler inside the episodes. Flashbacks. All too frequently, we'll see someone, usually Naruto himself, sitting and staring off into space looking for all the world like he's never been happy for a nanosecond in his entire life. After looking at Negative-Naruto for a solid 5-10 seconds, we cut to a sepia-toned flashback of something that happened in the previous episode, and we'll watch that flashback for a good three or four minutes. Sometimes longer. Considering that after cutting out the themes there's maybe 19 minutes or so of show, 4 minutes is a rather large chunk of time. No joke, there were times when I would skip ALL the flashbacks in a single episode, and end up watching about 5 minutes of real content.
Worse than THAT is that, inside of a single arc, we'll sometimes see the SAME flashback repeated two or three times in the space of 5 episodes. This is either laziness to the point of hackery, or the producers thinking that the viewing audience has the memory retention of a particularly dull rock.

Problem 3: Nobody seems to know how to have fun. Except for maybe a small handful of GOOD filler episodes (read: self-contained episodes, not arcs) the humor is, well, lack-luster. I'm fine with an anime that takes itself seriously, but at some point, all the depression and sorrow and soulless indifference just becomes detrimental. Except Naruto isn't supposed to be that bad to begin with. Call it cerebus syndrome if you want, but DAYUM, I sometimes get uncomfortable with how friggin' depressing it can be, and there's no relief in sight.

Problem 4: The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are better ninjas. I'm'a just leave that big open can of worms for someone else to have fun with.

And yet, I still watch it. Because at least the action is really damn cool. Hell, the third Shippuden movie is downright awesome because of said action. So, do I hate Naruto? Well, only half the time, I guess, and the other half makes up for it.

 

[Fetzenfisch]

just assume that a show can get up to a certain quality and not further.
just assume that you spread this finite amount of quality over a brazillion episodes without any story or originality left.
Every show thats running over more than 30 episodes gets worse with every new one, its repetitive and gets artificially stretched to spread that little originality the authors can come up with over as many episodes as possible.
The product we are left with is a mindless storyless fighting sequence filled and stretched by dumb dialogs which basically is a 30 minute commercial= on the same level as every childs cartoon.

 

[Frogman54]

I started watching the anime right on release and fell in love with it. I kept up with it until mid-shippudden. The frequent changes in the main story made me lose interest. It seems like the writers have forgotten what the show is about. NARUTO. Specifically him becoming Hokage.. not some war between ninjas. Sure that could be an interesting story in the future, but i want to see Naruto achieve his original goal first. Make the ninja war a continuation of the first. Similar to Dragon Ball Z & GT

 

[andriod]

i stopped watching the anime ages ago, then i stopped reading the manga when sasuke could summon a giant gundum from his eye. at that point i thought, 'This is rediculus' and was dissapointed with myself and the creator

 

[Daveman]

I don't know why people ***** about flashbacks. They're a fucking necessary part of most overarching story lines like there are specifically in anime. If there wasn't a flashback, and I missed that episode, everyone else might get it, but I won't. It may be treating you like a child but tbh I don't hate on Dexter because there's a 5 minute "previously... on Dexter" bit at the beginning.

I like Naruto, yes the flashbacks are ridiculous, yes there's a lot of filler... but it's still fuckloads better than any given Dragonball, Z or GT episode. And that's coming from somebody with a Vegeta avatar.

 

[Olorune]

QR: Besides the bad animation, terrible dub version, boring characters, filler bullshit, and the 2 hour talks that drudge on and on before any actual fighting happens?

 

[SousukeSeg]

Ugh... To be honest, I'm not sure if I hate Naruto more then I hate myself for watching it for so bloody long and putting up with all the fillers.

I held off, I said "it has to get good at some point" I kept going and going, until at one point I got fed up with waiting to see when the "REAL" plot was going to continue and decided to read the manga, which actually helped me resist the awfulness of the anime. "The manga was good" I said, but "I really want to see this happen in the anime", it's one thing to look at a battle in still pictures and another to see it animated, so I kept going.

But things were only getting worse, the quality of the animation was going down and the writing was getting worse, the dialogue was getting way too corny even for anime standards much less Naruto standards, the jokes were getting repetitive, the characters were practically ignoring all their buildup and becoming one dimensional, basically everything was grotesquely horrible.

And then came Shippuden... oh... my... God... Thankfully the story picked off, the manga was again in charge of the plot, so it was good step in the right direction... BUT GOD DAMN the animation was horrible, aside from a few good fight scenes, IT WAS A$$(I'm sorry I sincerely could not come up with a better word to describe it)! but still it was the plot from the manga so I kept going, thinking that this is the best I could hope for, and it can't get much worse... I could kick myself for thinking that.

Once again, filler, FILLER!!! wtf... just wha the... fgh.. scr... UGHHHHHHHHHHH.
AAAAAAAAANND!!! the writing was EVEN WORSE! forget corny jokes, these were unfunny abominations, forget characters BECOMING one dimensional, they WERE one dimensional, forget stupid dialogue, it was retarded dialogue, forget unimportant, unrelated, unnecessary, unimaginative subplots, because the only way any writing could ever stink more then Naruto filler writing would be by using skunk secretion in staid of ink.

If you think the filler does not discredit the rest of the anime, then you are WRONG, the entire anime itself was diminishing in quality, and don't tell me I'm wrong, I went back and watched the first couple of seasons and Shippuden(minus the filler) was nowhere near that good (animation, voice acting, atmosphere, buildup, character development, battles... and so on).

I was tired, drained, my hopes shattered.

I couldn't take it anymore.

I loved Naruto, I loved the characters, I loved the story, I loved the battles. That's why I feel betrayed, my love and trust was misplaced, it went on unrewarded, ignored. That's why, I believe I'm well within my right to hate, despise, utterly LOATHE Naruto and everybody in charge of it's production, distribution and profit. I hope they all feel the backlash in full force.

It should have just died, or at least put on hold until more material(manga) was available, but no, "who cares if it's not as good, keep making episodes, keep making money, WE WANT MORE MONEY!", if you for one second don't think this is true then go ahead and carve an "N" on your forehead because NAIVE is your middle name.

That's why I hate Naruto.

PS: I watched the fansubs, so I can't complain about the so called horrible English voice adaptation and censoring. I still read the manga if only because I owe it to myself and the memory of what was once a great show to see how it ends(if it ever will). And yes, I am a huge anime fan and love Japanese animation and believe it or not even the humor.

 

[Zhadramekel]

Personally, although its a recent development, I'm a big fan of Naruto. I'm just past episode 130 of the original series and although I thought Sasuke's flashbacks dragged on a bit too long I still enjoyed it. And Naruto Abridged (MasakoX and Vegeta3986) has to be one of the funniest anime parodies on the internet as far as I'm concerned.

 

[cainx10a]

That jump between the first generation of naruto and naruto shippuden. Are you seriously telling me that in the two years he went training with one of the greatest ninjas of that time... He didn't learn a single new skill?

You'd expect him to come back knowing epic moves and skills, but nope. He comes back from his two year vacation, only to find himself behind everyone else, and he's even more annoying.

How far are you into shitpooden? Because I'm pretty sure he was training for the sole purpose of fighting a certain Uchiha (Not Sasuke). Then the show started introducing new theories behind how to control and mold le chakra for even more destructive powahs thanks to nature elements.

Naruto ain't supposed to be uber strong like Goku, but he does put a lot of effort to become stronger ... well then again DBZ had the hyperbolic time chamber where they could train for years and only a few days has passed in the real world.

 

[Flare Phoenix]

Anything is only as good as the worst thing about it, in my opinion. Saying that the filler isn't an issue since you can just skip it is ridiculous since you can just say that about anything. Think Jar-Jar Binks was annoying in Star Wars? Well that's not a valid reason to hate the movies as you can just skip his scenes. See, you can do it with anything...

Oh yeah, and deviates from the manga DOES NOT EQUAL disappointing ending.

As for Naruto, I just remember in episode nine when they executed their plan to free Kakashi from Zabuza's water prison, succeed, and then not FIVE MINUTES LATER they have a flashback showing the EXACT SAME SEQUENCE over again while they just flat out tell us what the plan was. Umm, we're not stupid, series; we can figure out what happened just by looking at it!

 

[Con Carne]

I personally really enjoy Naruto and DBZ, but, the filler really is a big factor. Take DBZ for example. The show boasted nearly 300 episodes I believe. A lot of it was Goku trying to make a spirit bomb. I understand they tried doing this for suspense, but goddamn. They are now releasing DBZ Kai which is the same great series with all the bs taken out. Now that they've done that, I think the show has been cut down to roughly a third of its normal length. If they did that with Naruto, I'm sure it would gain more fans. Also another problem I had with Naruto (which they fixed rather quickly) was "Believe It!!"
Did it ruin the series for me? Not at all.

 

[Flare Phoenix]

I personally really enjoy Naruto and DBZ, but, the filler really is a big factor. Take DBZ for example. The show boasted nearly 300 episodes I believe. A lot of it was Goku trying to make a spirit bomb. I understand they tried doing this for suspense, but goddamn. They are now releasing DBZ Kai which is the same great series with all the bs taken out. Now that they've done that, I think the show has been cut down to roughly a third of its normal length. If they did that with Naruto, I'm sure it would gain more fans. Also another problem I had with Naruto (which they fixed rather quickly) was "Believe It!!"
Did it ruin the series for me? Not at all.

Funnily enough, when Dragon Ball Kai did come out not a lot of people really liked it. Those who liked DBZ liked had already seen what Kai had to offer (seriously, I think there is only like four episodes that had new animation), and those who didn't like DBZ didn't have much interest in checking out a new version of it.

 

[TehCookie]

I realized it was bad during Zabuza's arc, where they slightly explain what they are going to do, do it, and then explaining further detail what they just did. Seriously that's why I stopped watching Death Note. I know what you did I just saw it. The manga was a lot better since I can read a lot faster and skim that, but later on it just became really gay. There is no way Naruto would go through that much for Sasuke unless he loved them. At least Sakura admits it even though Sasuke tried to kill her several times. Damn she is passionate.

 

[Ulquiorra4sama]

Cut away the filler and i'd love the anime.

That's why i only read the manga now until they finally reach that island and stop with this sailing bull shit that's completely out of place.

 

[coldfrog]

I've watched a very small list of animes, none of them the long-running type like this, so I have to ask: Why don't they just stop making shows until the manga is created? Are manga releases that unpredictable? Even then, and to be fair this is just me personally, but I'd rather see a tightly-wrapped story than a bunch of people standing around talking for multiple episodes. Unless their discussions are particularly endearing or interesting. In which case, talk away!

But yes, my question stands.
If you're curious about the shows I've watched: Cowboy Bebop, Lupin the 3rd, Evangelion, FLCL, Lain, Desert Punk, Trigun, Hellsing and Excel Saga. Maybe a couple others, but clearly not ones memorable enough to recount.

 

[Genixma]

The biggest argument I hear about Naruto is that he's a ninja that wears orange how do people miss him? I enjoy Naruto especially with Bleach's career going down fast than M. Night's and One Piece...well I never thought One Piece was good. Meh.