I blame Betty Boop. At least in terms of eyes. I she think she started the whole trend for both Americans and Japanese.
Here's something to watch:Lt. Vinciti said:This.Rblade said:Because japan idolizes western culture, so the whiter the better.
and the eyes, large eyes make the emotion easier to draw or something like that, but they also make you look very not asian.
Pretty much kinda summed up what I was thinkin in a nutshell beyond all the "oh thats how we see it"
Last I checked most Asians are not natural blondes (nor porn stars...for that matter) They have dark hair...ala Black most of the time...
I must ask why Japan sees the western world as an idol....
Afro Samurai????chuckman1 said:Seriously I don't understand why in so many animes (especially ones taking place in JAPAN) ALL characters are white. Seriously I never see any asian features on any anime characters.
Maybe it's the art style but I don't see why everyone would look like an American white person.
SO why do you think even "asian" anime characters don't look asian at all?
This isn't entirely true to be honest. There is a fashion trend in Japan to dye your hair blonde and get a surgery to make your eyes more circular. It's not got a massive following, but when I was in Japan I did see quite a few girls doing this.Jonluw said:The Japanese do not "idolize" western culture or have some desire to be like 'us'.
Could you scan this? =)Lethos said:My Japanese textbook is hilarious when it comes to this. The textbook features some cartoon characters from different countries in the world. All of the Japanese characters, admittedly look white. So to make the characters from America and Britain look different to the Japanese characters, they have given them the biggest and most circular eyes you can imagine.
You win this thread. that was a real good video and i will use it often , thank you .bruein said:watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKTvFhRbBt8
don't know how to imbed a video, sorry
ThisWuggy said:Yes, it's the art style.
Asian people are usually recognized by their eyes being being "leaner", resulting from their eyelids being kind of lower. However, the Japanese culture considers small eyes (particularly on anime) to look "mean" or "rude". The artstyle reflects on that: you'll notice that most often young and/or the main characters (the good guys) have large eyes, whereas usually the antagonists and/or people with dismissive/mean/cool personality have leaner eyes.
Also, saying all anime character are "all" white, simply isn't true. I don't watch anime or read manga myself, and I know this.
And this too.C. Cain said:It's a matter of art style and projection. Asian audiences consider anime characters to be Asian, whereas Caucasian audiences consider anime characters to be Caucasian.
to be fair fullmetal alchemist might very well if not defiently be the exception in this case. since the world is more or less based on an alternate europe they should be german looking more or less. we then have ling and the others from xing actually haveing extreame asian features... it's almost like it's drawn by someone not asian witch is kinda funny.ph0b0s123 said:O
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Is man above Caucasian or Asian. The idea is that Caucasian's see Caucasian and Asian's see Asian, due to lack of features as happens in anime. Excuse rubbish asci art.
So most are supposed to be Asian. But there is no way you are going to convince me that the two bothers Elric brothers from Fullmetal Alchemist with their blonde hair (yes, know lots of asian kids dye their hair) and blue eyes are Asian. No way.
it would still be like saying america idolizes japan just because they have few weirdo otakus going a tiny bit too far. sure we have the nutjobs everywhere who want to be someone their not but don't judge a nation based on these guys.Lethos said:My Japanese textbook is hilarious when it comes to this. The textbook features some cartoon characters from different countries in the world. All of the Japanese characters, admittedly look white. So to make the characters from America and Britain look different to the Japanese characters, they have given them the biggest and most circular eyes you can imagine.
This isn't entirely true to be honest. There is a fashion trend in Japan to dye your hair blonde and get a surgery to make your eyes more circular. It's not got a massive following, but when I was in Japan I did see quite a few girls doing this.Jonluw said:The Japanese do not "idolize" western culture or have some desire to be like 'us'.
No credit for partial answers!Toriver said:No, no they do not.
While there may be a good deal of fascination with Western culture, the Japanese decidedly do NOT idolize it anywhere close to as much as their own. At best it's given slightly less attention than Korean culture.
That's just the thing though - they're NOT mean to be Aryan. The non-black hair is probably partly a throwback to the days of differentiating characters by hair colour, and also Miyazaki does seem to have a bit of a raging fetish for Western influences and styling in his anime. But in general, I honestly believe his characters are meant to be culture-free "everyman" avatars.tahrey said:Even Studio Ghibli - with a long, somewhat questionable tradition of having entirely aryan character lists - has used that last one from time to time.
that's a contradiction.chuckman1 said:American white person.
Yeh I agree with you, I was just saying there is some Japanese fashion trends that do idolise Caucasians.Jazzeki said:it would still be like saying america idolizes japan just because they have few weirdo otakus going a tiny bit too far. sure we have the nutjobs everywhere who want to be someone their not but don't judge a nation based on these guys.
No scanner, but I hope a low-res, itouch, camera picture will do lol.tobyornottoby said:Could you scan this? =)